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I kid you not...she said this with a straight face and realized what she had just said and made some weak back peddle...If anyone has access to Cavuto Transcripts or connections on Fox or remembers to tape it when Cavuto runs again tonite..
1 posted on 12/27/2002 2:15:05 PM PST by antaresequity
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Who is Helen Ratner?
2 posted on 12/27/2002 2:17:14 PM PST by Henk
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She same as said that she hopes that American soldiers lose their lives. We need to contact FNC to get rid of that Bubba-blowing cow.
3 posted on 12/27/2002 2:17:18 PM PST by Paul Atreides
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Here's my New Year's Wish: That Ellen Ratner be convicted of treason by a jury of her peers, and that she be sentenced to death.
5 posted on 12/27/2002 2:20:29 PM PST by Poohbah
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Bill O'Reilly once said that Geraldo didn't get that thousands would turn off his MSNBC show every time Alan Derschowitz was a guest which was two or three times a week. Fox doesn't seem to get that thousands more turn off Fox News every time Ellen Ratnor appears. I automatically change the channel every time I see her on Fox. I'd rather watch CNN than that woman.
6 posted on 12/27/2002 2:20:45 PM PST by Republican Red
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Sounds like Gore/Da$chle proclaiming "we're losing ground in Afghanistan."
9 posted on 12/27/2002 2:24:10 PM PST by Shermy
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The whole Ratner family is F*$?ed up. Her brother was the kook that funded the PC version of the three fireman sculpture erecting the flag at the WTC site that was rejected. Her other brother has a PAC that is a Jews for Palestine entity.
10 posted on 12/27/2002 2:24:51 PM PST by bigfootbob
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It' no surprise to me, ratner the RAT is a liberal extremist, and it's widely known that liberals hates the USA. They will betray America anytime they have a chance to push their agenda. Why these rats continue to live in this country is a mystery.
12 posted on 12/27/2002 2:27:56 PM PST by desertcry
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If I'm not mistaken it's Ellen rather than Helen. She's a disgusting POS.
15 posted on 12/27/2002 2:29:42 PM PST by Bob
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Ratner A: "I hope he[Bush] messes it up, so he isn't re-elected.

So she is hoping that American soldiers lose their lives in mass quantities and that we lose a war ?

B!TCH

17 posted on 12/27/2002 2:30:53 PM PST by Centurion2000
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If the DemocRats were in power, can you imagine a conservative saying this? I can't. Not Pat Buchanan, not Trent Lott, nobody.

These folks are a different species.
19 posted on 12/27/2002 2:31:11 PM PST by DeFault User
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If this does'nt prove liberals and "hypocrats"are commie trash i don't know what will.Screwing up the war would put America at risk and if their regaining control of this country is that important to them,MAY THEY ALL BURN IN HELL!
20 posted on 12/27/2002 2:31:24 PM PST by INSENSITIVE GUY
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So, Ratner would delight in any efforts by Bush to bring freedom to the Iraqi people messing up?

She is selfish, immature, and hmmmm, evil in her thinking!

24 posted on 12/27/2002 2:35:18 PM PST by zeaal
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That's going to be pretty easy to do actually.. Because "screwing up" the war is pretty subjective. You can bet the media will be twisting arms to show the war being "screwed up" as often as possible.

Plus, I just cannot believe that Saddam is going to meet us in the desert and get smoked in a re-run of gulf war '91. There's going to be allot of civilian casualties this time around because that's where he's going to put his hardware, population centers.

In addition there's always the slim chance that China will make a play for Taiwan or North Korea will get ambitious..

When and if any of this happens you can count on CNN being right there getting footage and trying to lay it on the doorstep of both President Bush in particular and the GOP in general.

25 posted on 12/27/2002 2:36:21 PM PST by Jhoffa_
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I heard it, I didn't see it but she sounded like she had the IQ and maturity of a kindergartner.
27 posted on 12/27/2002 2:41:34 PM PST by tiki
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© 2002 WorldNetDaily.com

This is every columnist's nightmare and opportunity – the chance to make in-print predictions about the future. Look, the truth is that if I knew even the contents of next Tuesday's Wall Street Journal, I'd be too rich to have to work for a living. The fact that I'm not rich should clue you in about my track-record as a prophet. Nevertheless, I'm going to make a bunch of predictions anyway, and devil take the hindmost (which in all likelihood, will be me).

The Dow Jones will be higher by December 2003.

Yep, I don't know much about next Tuesday's stock prices, but I am willing to bet that one year hence, the Dow will be higher (along with the S&P and NASDAQ). The reason has nothing to do with Republican economic brilliance (the written history of which may be found in three richly bound but blank pages) – rather it will happen once the war clouds dissipate over Iraq. Or to be more precise, over the Straits of Hormuz through which much of the Gulf oil moves by tanker.

Now that is the word "real" in real estate, and it's what Bush is really defending. If Iraq cracks, what's liable to come pouring out (after the human blood, that is) is oil and lots of it. That means if Bush's gambit on the old Euphrates River works, petroleum prices will be tumbling. Also good news for Mr. Dow Jones.

The Republican Party will be well on the way toward political self-destruction.

Absolute power corrupts absolutely as the old saying goes, and while George Bush isn't the Sun King, I would have to say that in terms of American democracy, his party is real close to absolute control – the House, the Senate, the White House and the Supreme Court. What does this mean? Well, the fall of Trent Lott is a foreshadowing, a taste of things to come.

As with Newt Gingrich, these guys get mighty over-confident after an election or two. They get careless about what they say and what they do. For example, on tax reform, these guys are about to throw themselves a party – by ending taxation on dividends, eliminating the estate and capital-gains tax, and all the other goodies on the Republican wish list, they will succeed in ... in ... in turning an awful budget deficit into a horrific one and such will force them to actually raise taxes on ... on ... on the backs of the working class.

Think I made this up? Nah! It is already being reported that the White House has directed the Treasury Department to study the possibility of raising taxes on the bottom 50 percent of income earners. Lott's replacement, Sen. William Frist, is a well-respected man, but respect is no excuse for insane policies. Get ready. I know the New York Times is.

On the international front, here is one that may surprise you: Saddam Hussein, George Bush's personal whipping boy, won't actually use any weapons of mass destruction, even if he has them.

Why? Because Saddam doesn't want to prove us right. The only means he has of staying in power is to continually deny the allegations levied against him. That enables the European peaceniks to find a reason to oppose a U.S. war. Any biological or chemical strike, and Saddam loses the international ambivalence that has kept him in power for the last decade. So remember this – the threat from Saddam is much smaller then we think, because any use of his weapons validates George Bush and probably means Saddam's demise.

And, finally, for the sports prediction you have all been waiting for, Pete Rose will finally make the baseball Hall of Fame.

The powers that be in Cooperstown will finally bend to overwhelming public support and put Charlie Hustle in the Hall, where he belongs. Baseball's all-time hits leader will be included in the pantheon of the game's greats, ending a lifetime ban that began over a decade ago and has become an unreasonable blemish on the game.

30 posted on 12/27/2002 2:43:13 PM PST by Hillary's Lovely Legs
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"...she said this with a straight face and realized what she had just said and made some weak back peddle..."

She also compared the situation to Bush I and said GWB is repeating his father's mistakes vis a vis a war in Iraq. Brenda Buttner declaired that Bush I was strongly supported in that war, Rattner declared, "yes, but I was against that war also."

I turned and said to my wife that she now had multiple feet in her mouth...
36 posted on 12/27/2002 2:49:13 PM PST by rohry
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I heard that moron Rat but I couldn't believe my ears!!!!!! I wonder how many dead Marines it would take to make her happy? Semper Fi
39 posted on 12/27/2002 2:52:17 PM PST by kellynla
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That is exactly what she said, although I don't agree that she realized she screwed up. It was pretty brazen. She seemed sincere in her hope for disaster.
40 posted on 12/27/2002 2:52:51 PM PST by Brilliant
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I just read this thread.

Has anyone a link to a transcript?
46 posted on 12/27/2002 2:59:08 PM PST by Radix
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Ratner posed with FR DC Chapter members in October as she was entering a gathering of 'Rats.

See this thread: REPORT: D.C. Chapter Freeps 'Rats "Every Vote Counts" Fundraiser 10/09/02 and the below photo.

This was during our chanting "duel" with the assembled 'Rats. Not sure what, if anything,was said between FReepers & Ratner. (I didn't talk with her.)

49 posted on 12/27/2002 3:04:58 PM PST by BillF
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