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Immigration: Where is the OUTRAGE??
The Sierra Times ^ | Dec. 20, 2002 | Jackie Juntti

Posted on 12/21/2002 8:57:28 AM PST by madfly

I have been surfing the many news pages for months, and all the headlines, for the most part on a daily basis, mention the "War" in the Middle East. It is either Iraq, bin Laden, Palestine, Saudi Arabia or the like. Many articles about America going to fight over in that part of the world - the pretext being that we are fighting "terrorism".

I have yet to see headlines about the Invasion of America on our Southern Border. The SILENCE is deafening on this topic. The only time I read articles related to the Mexican invasion is when one or another ILLEGAL INVADER is spotlighted as not being able to get "instate tuition" at some tax funded school, or one of them needs very expensive medical care. All of this type of "news" coverage is based upon the bleeding heart mentality that we rich Americans should be opening our national door and bringing in all who wish to come and benefit from our years of hard work.

We have laws regarding "immigration" and we have a procedure to be followed to legally enter America. Many foreigners follow those rules and eventually are able to enter - legally - and then apply to become citizens. I welcome each and every one of those people. Members of my family originally entered America in this manner, coming in through Ellis Island. Another part of my family was here to greet them, as they were native Americans.

I can't fathom the silence of the media in reporting on the stealth invasion of America by all those who avoid detection at legal entry points. I can't understand why they are not making this a daily headline, with the numbers in bold print as they did during the Viet Nam war with the body counts.

I can't fathom why Bush, Cheney, Colin Powell, Ashcroft, and all those in Congress are not doing daily press conferences, alerting Americans to the invasion that has been, and continues to take place every single day of the year.

Where is the OUTRAGE they had following Sept. 11th? Do we need planes diving into buildings and fires raging in order to stand in front of cameras saying that AMERICA IS UNDER ATTACK!!!

Why are the leaders of this nation so silent on this INVASION at our Southern Border? What is the back room deal that has been cut to keep the Welcome Wagon Ladies standing there, tables heaped high with goodies paid for by the America taxpayer? Why are we not condemning Vicente Fox for sending in his stealth operatives as we condemn Osama bin Laden and his ilk? What is the difference?

We have almost daily "ALERTS!" about some threat of some kind from the "terrorists" but nothing about the INVASION of AMERICA from Mexico and elsewhere. Why is there such SILENCE on this matter?

Recently, Rudy Giulliani went to Mexico as a consultant to deal with the alarming crime rate there. In fact, he was alleged to be the target of a kidnapping attempt while there. I hope "dealing with the Mexican crime rate" doesn't mean sending them North to the U.S. Vicente Fox and his Coyotes have been doing that job already, and quite successfully.

I can hardly wait for Sen. 'Chatty' Patty Murray of Washington to hold a press conference exclaiming how Fox & Coyotes have built schools and all those same good things she is now applauding bin Laden for. Perhaps we will have Jim McDermott standing along side of her telling of his recent visit and how wonderful those folks are that just want to find a "better life" in America. Even better would be for all this to be "Bipartisan", and all those GOP politicians could stand with them pushing open the borders so everyone can have a miserable life when America is finally brought to her knees by the INVASION taking place before our eyes.

I am telling you, there is something mighty strange going on. America is being invaded and the leaders of America are pushing to open the gate even wider to the invaders. They have already granted AMNESTY to thousands and now want to grant more options for the last wave of invaders. They are keeping a lid on any news that exposes this invasion - twisting it to promote only the "plight" of those poor downtrodden ILLEGALS, so as to build up more bleeding hearts to open our homes to the invading troops. They won't even refer to them as what they are - illegal invading troops - they refer to them as "undocumented aliens" - that is supposed to make us feel sorry for them and to ignore the fact that our laws have been violated.

We also have George W. Bush - the president of AMERICA - opening the Social Security benefits to Mexicans. I guess welfare, education, health care, housing, unemployment, isn't enough. We need to send them SS checks too.

Maybe we should bring Rudy Giulliani back here to deal with the ALARMING CRIME RATE in the Federal Government. We have men in high places openly subverting American law and our Constitution. If nothing else, maybe Rudy, with his recent experience at attending funerals, could officiate over the death of America as we knew it.

Where is the OUTRAGE?

Bye, bye, Miss American Pie, Drove my Chevy to the levee but the levee was dry. Them good ol' boys were drinking whiskey and rye Singing 'This'll be the day that I die, 'This'll be the day that I die.'"

© 2002 SierraTimes.com (unless otherwise noted)



TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Mexico
KEYWORDS: bushonetermer; hatefulbenficklin; hyperboleoverfact; idiotbenficklin; immigration; ussocialsecurity; yesitsinvasion
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To: austinTparty
C'mon you gutless race-baiter, I'm still waiting for you to name one Freeper on this thread that has a problem with non-white, LEGAL IMMIGRANTS.

Did you crawl back under your rock for the night, slug?

101 posted on 12/21/2002 8:41:11 PM PST by 4Freedom
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To: judgeandjury
Let me be the first to inform you that Mexico is one of the most corrupt countries on this planet. Their political, social, and law enforcement systems are based on bribery and corruption.

You are so right (and no one cares). Relatives (from Mexico) told me JUST tonight that they know some young men working in the "Aduanas", that's customs to the uninitiated who are accumulating material wealth far beyond what their salaries justify. And, the Mexican relatives insinuated that corruption is taking place. Guess that makes them racist. Oh well.

102 posted on 12/21/2002 8:42:02 PM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
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To: 4Freedom
>>The union membership gets the royal shaft.<<


As a Union member, I know what you mean. Old Sam Goumpers must be spinning in his grave by now.
103 posted on 12/21/2002 8:43:07 PM PST by Missouri
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To: 4Freedom
"We hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness..."

ALL MEN (that is to say, all mankind), merely by virtue of being human, are endowed by their Creator with these rights. That list is merely an enumeration, partial and not exhaustive.

I also, for the record, explicitly noted that none of what I said should be construed as advocating ILLEGAL immigration. Furthermore, I fail to see how noting that our laws and civic texts are colorblind constitutes "white-hatred" or "race-baiting", indeed, I agree wholeheartedly with MLK that we should be judged by the content of our character and not the color of our skin, which is why the notion of race-based preferences is equally abhorent. Methinks thou doth protest too much.

104 posted on 12/21/2002 8:45:03 PM PST by austinTparty
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To: TruthNtegrity
...seeing groups of them replacing someone's roof, knowing that none of them have Green cards and probably crossed the border last month.

Congrats on the ESP skills.
I'd hate to think you're just another racist punk.

105 posted on 12/21/2002 8:46:39 PM PST by PRND21
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To: Ben Ficklin
"...the browning of America will continue."

What a desperate attempt to try to enter race into this discussion , yet again.

You're beyond pathetic.

106 posted on 12/21/2002 8:46:57 PM PST by 4Freedom
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To: 4Freedom
You are long on slurs, short of facts.
107 posted on 12/21/2002 8:48:43 PM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: austinTparty
Me thinks you're a race-baiter that's been exposed.

Name one Freeper on this thread that doesn't believe most of what you said applies to LEGAL IMMIGRANTS of any race or color.

It's ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS we have a problem with.

C'mon race-baiter, name one Freeper.

108 posted on 12/21/2002 8:53:09 PM PST by 4Freedom
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To: madfly
Illegals are the pits, but the fact is the Democrats want the vote if they can legalize many.
Republicans are scared to death that they will be labeled a racist for asking laws to be upheld on this issue.
Meanwhile hospitals, services and our education funds in many states are being driven beyond broke by them.

This hasn't gone national as an issue and that is why nothing is made to happen about illegals.

Dems want the votes through typical handouts and Republicans are wetting their pants in fear of standing up for the law and our public funds on this issue.

This is an area where Republicans have been the biggest wimps.
109 posted on 12/21/2002 8:54:07 PM PST by A CA Guy
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To: Ben Ficklin
I've linked to polls and articles to substantiate everything I've said and even answered your foolish 'Reconquista' question.

What was your lame response? 'Oh, those are just polls.'

Pathetic, race-baiter.

110 posted on 12/21/2002 8:57:40 PM PST by 4Freedom
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To: 4Freedom
name one Freeper on this thread that has a problem with non-white, LEGAL IMMIGRANTS.

I have a problem with any new Islamic immigrants, either legal or illegal. Does that count?

111 posted on 12/21/2002 9:04:32 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: 4Freedom
I referred to anti-immigration threadS in general, and those who disparage "Spanish-speakers" as illegals in general could certainly fall into that category--because it is obviously well known there are many LEGAL immigrants who choose to speak Spanish amongst themselves. The list could go on, but those who are anti-immigrant, not merely anti-illegal are glaringly obvious.

Furthermore, in the face of your obvious bellicosity, I will follow the old adage about wrestling with pigs, as I have no intention of getting any dirtier and affording you any more enjoyment.

112 posted on 12/21/2002 9:05:49 PM PST by austinTparty
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To: Rye
No, your reason couldn't be construed as racist. The tragedy of 9/11 and the virtual silence of the Muslim community in response puts you in the company of a majority of ALL AMERICANS (not just white Americans).
113 posted on 12/21/2002 9:11:35 PM PST by 4Freedom
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To: austinTparty
re: the DAR

One of FDR's greatest statements came in his speech to the DAR:

Welcome, fellow immigrants...

114 posted on 12/21/2002 9:13:43 PM PST by nicollo
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To: 4Freedom
It's ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS we have a problem with.
Let me guess, you'd support a law to limit immigration to Sub-Sahara nations only? How 'bout to Irish only? Seems folk had quite a problem with that policy back in the 1850s. Or how 'bout English-only. That's what the nation was founded on, after all.

Or maybe you just don't like that illegal immigration has surpassed the nation's resolve to stop it? Or, more accurately, the nation's support for it. If so, then quit telling off people who don't give a damn who comes here so long as they come here as Americans. It's time you folks started arguing immigration policy as opposed to immigration. Immigration policy is the evil you point to. That starts in Washington, not Mexico City.

If you want to argue that illegals aren't American, then we'll take this argument elsewhere -- straight to your race trap.

Or you could simply take away the incentive for people to come here. That'd be easy. Repeal the Constitution, the Bill of Rights and 230 years of history.

How do you feel about the Spanish American War? (Hint: it proposed that American ideals weren't just for Americans.)

115 posted on 12/21/2002 9:15:46 PM PST by nicollo
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To: austinTparty; Ben Ficklin
Can't name one Freeper. I knew you couldn't. Go crawl back under your rock you race-baiting slug.

And take Mr. 'Free Republic is the premier Mexican hating site on the internet' with you.

116 posted on 12/21/2002 9:17:18 PM PST by 4Freedom
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To: Illbay
Frankly, I'm tired of the use of the term "Invasion", with all respect to Michelle Malkin.

Frankly, I tire of liberal, neocons Republicans like you, who have taken on that kind of attitude. You are no more of a conservative, patriot than Fidel Castro. You are just another liberal in conservative clothing.

This illegal invasion and our immigration crisis is bigger that Iraq, bigger than any other issue facing this nation. The American victims of crimes, including drunken driving, and fraud caused by millions of illegal aliens out number the victims of 911 many times. 911 was more dramatic due to being caught on video tape. Should we go after the perpetrators of 911? Of course.

But are there other forms of terrorism, being perpetrated on this great country.

And people like you are just as guilty of treason as our so-called leaders that have allowed this disgrace, massive lawlessness and invasion of our borders and our sovereignty to continue.

You are in the minorty. You are a liberal, socialist, and possible a communist. Many more American brothers support me than you. No matter who you ping to this little forum.

117 posted on 12/21/2002 9:26:26 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf
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To: nicollo
Evidently, you're too lazy to read the whole thread before you just jump in and shoot off your big mouth.

The American people haven't lost their resolve to stop illegal immigration. Their elected representatives are ignoring the wishes of the majority, but to their own peril.

And no, IMO and the opinion of the majority of ALL AMERICANS (not just white Americans) nobody of any race or color that enters our country illegally can be an American. We don't want any of them. Send them all back, Nicollo.

118 posted on 12/21/2002 9:28:55 PM PST by 4Freedom
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To: madfly
"I can't fathom why Bush, Cheney, Colin Powell, Ashcroft, and all those in Congress are not doing daily press conferences, alerting Americans to the invasion that has been, and continues to take place every single day of the year."

The "invasion" is being rewarded to the tune of a $1 Billion dollar bonus.

That's how much will be paid the first year to Mexican citizens for Social Security from the U.S. treasury (for the work they did in the U.S.).

Looks more like an unspoken "treaty" than an invasion if you think about it.

Why else would congress agree to pay Mexicans retirement pay on the taxes they paid while working in the U.S.?

119 posted on 12/21/2002 9:31:38 PM PST by Happy2BMe
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To: Joe Hadenuf
I Bump my American brother to the top. :)
120 posted on 12/21/2002 9:31:49 PM PST by 4Freedom
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