Really. Then how can you dispute the research that we have done all over the U.S. when smoking bans were forced upon bar/restaurants? Take time to read this:
Posted on 12/20/2002 10:10:51 AM PST by Behind Liberal Lines
Not true.
If the smokers didn';t smoke the poor guy would still be in business.
The law
THe courts disagree with your definition of private. As ussual, you all claim I don't know what the law is and call me a facist yet you have not one case to prove your views.
You folks asked me what my posistions were.
No, a market only works when everyone is acting in their own self interest.
Whatever.
Trust me. This guy din't get a business loan based on a business plan for a restaurant.
Link ?
And what is the basis of the law?
Doesn't make them right. Rulings are overturned every day. How many of Hitler's fascist policies were upheld by German courts. How many slave laws were upheld by US Courst? Jim Crow laws? Favorable court rulings do not make a position right.
But many patrons are still lighting up at bars that secretly accommodate their habit.
California Smokers Use Prohibition Tactics to Get Around Ban
That is the real impact of the smoking ban. So if you hear of anyone saying that the smoking ban in restaurants and bars does not hurt anybody, you can quote my figures, which are based on the official reports issued by the State Board of Equalization here in California.
As reported in Fox News:
California:
But many patrons are still lighting up at bars that secretly accommodate their habit.
"I think it's fair to say a lot of the bar owners have gone out of their way to avoid the law, to circumvent the law," said Christopher Arriola, assistant district attorney of Santa Clara County. "You do see some sort of what people might call Prohibition-era tactics."
While cops try to sniff out the worst offenders, in many cases they're butting up against organized opposition. Bartender phone trees warn each other of impending busts, powerful fans blow away tell-tale scents of "smokin' in the boys room" and tin cans double as ashtrays in case of an unexpected visit by police.
California Smokers Use Prohibition Tactics to Get Around Ban
Really. Then how can you dispute the research that we have done all over the U.S. when smoking bans were forced upon bar/restaurants? Take time to read this:
I heard they are going to ban your dirt bike next. Kicks up too much dust. The neighbors can't breath. Plus the noise is deafening.
Fox News
California Smokers Use Prohibition Tactics to Get Around Ban
Back when liquor was outlawed during this country's Prohibition movement, Americans found clever ways to dodge police and have a drink in secrecy and safety.
Today, booze is legal — but in California restaurants and bars, cigarettes aren't. Three years ago, voters passed a ban to protect employees from second-hand smoke.
But many patrons are still lighting up at bars that secretly accommodate their habit.
"I think it's fair to say a lot of the bar owners have gone out of their way to avoid the law, to circumvent the law," said Christopher Arriola, assistant district attorney of Santa Clara County. "You do see some sort of what people might call Prohibition-era tactics."
While cops try to sniff out the worst offenders, in many cases they're butting up against organized opposition. Bartender phone trees warn each other of impending busts, powerful fans blow away tell-tale scents of "smokin' in the boys room" and tin cans double as ashtrays in case of an unexpected visit by police.
Smoker Ian Hughes said that if someone in one of those bars spots a squad car driving by, he or she will alert those puffing away — and everyone will stub out their cigarettes before they can be discovered.
While some bars are making a surreptitious end-run around the ban, others are finding mixed success in the courts, using a little-known provision in the law that allows their customers to light up.
Last week, for instance, a southern California bar won exemption from the ban because it has fewer than five employees.
Some venues get around the ban by providing smoking-only rooms.
"It's an OSHA law, so basically we kick out the employees and you're OK," said Tim Dale, general manager of Le Colonial.
Police say it's not OK when some bars comply and others don't. But until the smoking ban goes the way of Prohibition, hoppers who smoke and bars that welcome them will continue to be a perfect match.
To you, laredo!!!
You've got to REAlLY HATE it in order for quitting to be easy. I have found that people who are 'forced' into quitting, can not. Most people who smoke really enjoy it. When you enjoy something, it's not easy to give it up. If I come to hate smoking, I will quit. So far, I haven't gotten to that point.
I would see very few restrictions, save maybe not next door to a high school, etc.
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