Posted on 12/08/2002 3:27:47 AM PST by Logic_3
November 19, 2002
The Israelis now possess all the nuclear secrets of the United States.
This is the conclusion of Sean McDade, an investigator with the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, after studying a sophisticated Mossad computer theft operation against the United States two years ago. Evidently the Mounties dont spend all their time riding horses.
Compared to this espionage coup, McDade added, it can be categorically stated that the Jonathan Pollard case is insignificant.
McDades memorandum is quoted in Gordon Thomass recent book Seeds of Fire (Dandelion Books), which also deals extensively with Israels secret dealings with the Chinese government. Since China sees the United States as its enemy, U.S. nuclear secrets would be a precious bargaining chip for the Israelis.
McDade surmised that this story, if made public, might cause a major scandal. That depends on whether the American media and American politicians want to make an issue of it. And when it comes to our Israeli allies, they are very, very forgiving. The Israelis have never paid a penalty for Pollards spying, though they still refuse to return, or even to identify, the stolen documents. So the full damage still cant be assessed. And the Israelis keep pressing American presidents for Pollards release from prison!
Israel, we are told, is our only reliable ally in the Middle East. Its bad enough having Israels friendship, but we also get its enemies into the bargain. All this for a mere five billion bucks a year! What a deal!
When it comes to foreign policy, the U.S. Government isnt playing with a full deck. Its naive, weak, and corrupt. No other Western government has been foolish enough to get so deeply entangled in Jewish-Muslim hostilities. And Thomass book makes it clear that the United States is as far out of its depth in international intrigue as in general policymaking.
Pro-Israel pundits like Daniel Pipes urge us to read the Koran in order to learn what the Islamic world really thinks of us infidels. Good advice, but we should also acquaint ourselves with the Talmud to learn how the Israelis regard us goyim. Neither religion flatters us, though the Talmud is far more insulting.
It might come as a shock to most Americans to discover that neither Jews nor Muslims live by the New Testament. When President Bush called Islam a religion of peace, he displayed the typically American assumption that all religions preach justice, mercy, and universal benevolence. Isnt that what religion means?
Well, not exactly. Many religions have celebrated conquest and extermination. Christians have even managed to interpret the New Testament as authorizing rough stuff. The Old Testament offers precedents enough for wiping out your enemies, right down to the infants and livestock. The colorful Aztec religious festivals culminated in human sacrifice, nice and slow. The Talmud teaches that all gentiles deserve death; and though it doesnt urge Jews to kill us all, it does help explain Ariel Sharon.
Even most American Jews are naive about this. In America, Judaism, like Catholicism, has been refined into a virtual Protestant denomination, part of what has been called our civil religion. Muslims in this country are beginning to be similarly protestantized.
But in the Middle East, people of all faiths still practice that old-time religion. They dont attend interfaith brotherhood banquets. In Israel, a Christian who tries to convert a Jew is apt to serve a longer prison sentence than a Jew who murders a Christian. In some Muslim countries, a Christian who preaches publicly will be put to death.
This is the world America is eager to barge into, hoping to cajole, bribe, and if necessary bomb these countries until they embrace pluralistic democracy and womens rights. Visualize liberated Mecca: a city of neon lights, porn shops, and abortion clinics, girls with faces and navels exposed.
Why is the worlds most powerful country also one of the most provincial? Having lost our own cultural roots, we seem to have no sense of the depth of foreign cultures. Isnt everyone just like us, really? Arent the differences only superficial? And cant these people see how much better off theyll be if they just abandon their ways and adopt ours?
Assuming that the other fellow is just like you may be a kindly attitude, but in the Middle East its a good way to get your pocket picked.
Can somebody confirm/deny?
Exactly right.
Not exactly- what I know is from pre-web days, and based on talk radio... sometimes called "the poor man's internet."
There was a lot of discussion about how our nuclear secrets were put on an unsecure server where anyone who knew what to look for could get them.
There was discussion about our "Legacy Codes"- what you need to design, test, and maintain all the warheads in our arsenal- getting out & maybe going to Cuba and North Korea.
There was discussion about how all our satellite codes went from the Defense Department to the Commerce Department- then vanished.
But note well, this was before 1999, and Israel was not mentioned.
BTW, there are many Christian Jews in Israel.
This is a hit piece designed to to kill the war effort. Sobran has been one it's most vocal critics.
I'd really like to know exactly where in the Talmud this is expressed, both literally and what the context is... I went to a Jewish day school when I was younger and interestingly enough, we never did read the part about how "all gentiles deserve death."
In Israel, a Christian who tries to convert a Jew is apt to serve a longer prison sentence than a Jew who murders a Christian.
I'd also like to know exactly when this has happened in the past... Or is Sobran really saying, "it could happen?" Actually, there are quite a few Messianic Jews in Israel, and they are, in fact, some of the strongest supporters of Israel.
As far as Israel's dealings with China, as an American, I'm appalled that there's even the slightest possibility of a technology transfer to the Chinese, although the greatest hazard to national security is out of the White House. If it's determined that Israel leaked sensative information or technology to China, then they should be completely cut off to all foreign aid: Simple enough. Pollard should never get out of jail, and for the life of me, I don't understand why the Walkers are still alive, or for that matter, Aimes.
Mark
I'm inclined to agree with you, but I wonder about this story since China got what it needed as regards nuclear secrets, technology, and satellites from the Clinton administration.
David Horowitz wrote about Clinton with Red China that "it was as if the Rosenbergs were running the Whitehouse -- except the Rosenbergs were little people and naive.... The Rosenbergs also did it for a mistaken ideal -- not to line their pockets."
He writes some great stuff, but he has this thing about the Jews.
Too bad.
Now, if only we possessed all the nuclear secrets of Isreal...
To use his same silly logic, visualize "Vatican City" the same way.
We are not trying to move Muslins to a "pluralistic democracy and womens rights". We are trying to move them to the 21th century and out of the 13th century
Cooooollllll!!!!!!
Here are some interesting essays on Mr. Sobran.
1. Joe Sobran anti Jewish
2. Jew in the woodpile
/SARCASM.
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