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'Gay' Reaction to Mrs. Stachowicz’s Murder: Silence to Applause
Culture and Family Institute/ Concerned Women for America ^ | 12/5/02 | Allyson Smith

Posted on 12/05/2002 12:41:29 PM PST by Polycarp

'Gay' Reaction to Mrs. Stachowicz’s Murder: Silence to Applause 12/4/2002 By Allyson Smith

"I really don't feel sorry for her. She paid a very steep price for being an arrogant religious fascist. Too bad for her." – "Iris," in a posting on the ACLU Online Forum.

"Quite frankly, if anyone in this case was being ‘persecuted’ it was Mr. Gutierrez. Unfortunately for the victim this was a lesson that she learned too hard and too late. Maybe this will give pause to other people who similarly try to ‘help’ homosexuals." — "Silence Dogood," on ACLU Online Forum.

Mary Stachowicz

In the three weeks since Mary Stachowicz was murdered by homosexual Nicholas Gutierrez in Chicago, some pro-homosexualists have reacted with much more sympathy for the ‘gay’ killer than for his Christian victim. In fact, several even have gone as far as saying that Mrs. Stachowicz deserved to die for questioning the man’s lifestyle.

Predictably, the mainstream media and homosexual advocacy organizations have reacted to Mary Stachowicz’s murder the same way they did to 13-year-old Jesse Dirkhising’s torture-murder at the hands of two homosexual men in 1999: by avoiding it. As of December 4, no formal condemnations of Mrs. Stachowicz’s murder have been issued by leading groups such as the Human Rights Campaign, the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force, or the Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation.

Soulforce, a group that works in churches to oppose the traditional Christian view of homosexuality, issued no press statement, but a spokeswoman did give a quote to The Washington Times:

"We condemn this murder, like we do all murders," said Laura Montgomery Rutt, spokeswoman for Soulforce. "A hate crime needs to have an intent to intimidate a whole class of people. If in this case, it was directed at this person and intended to intimidate Christians, that would be a hate crime in my mind."

A devout Catholic, Mary Stachowicz met her martyrdom while working at the Sikorski Funeral Home on Chicago’s northwest side, where she got to know Gutierrez, 19, who lived in a second-floor apartment above the funeral home. On the afternoon of November 13, Stachowicz attended Mass at St. Hyacinth parish across the street, then returned to the funeral home and went to visit Gutierrez in his apartment.

According to Chicago police, an argument broke out when Mrs. Stachowicz lectured Gutierrez about his lifestyle and his lack of direction in life. Gutierrez later told police that he had issues with his mother and that the way Stachowicz was talking to him gave him flashbacks of his mother that angered him.

When Stachowicz asked him, "Why do you [have sex with] boys instead of girls?" Gutierrez snapped. In a fit of rage, he punched, kicked, stabbed and strangled the 51-year-old wife and mother of four. Gutierrez then stuffed her body into a crawl space under the floor of his apartment, where it remained for two days until he confessed to police.

Family members were baffled by Stachowicz’s disappearance. They posted fliers in neighborhoods, and her daughter made a public plea for her safe return.

"My sister is very healthy. She's very stable. She has the closest family you can imagine," Stachowicz’s younger sister, Alice Kosinski, told NBC5.com. "Her faith would not allow for anything out of the ordinary."

After learning of Gutierrez’s confession, Stachowicz’s loved ones agreed that the circumstances of her murder were in keeping with her character. Kosinski told The Chicago Tribune, "Because she's so Catholic, there's no room for being gay in the Catholic Church."

Friend Mary Coleman said, "Those of us who knew her immediately hear her soft voice saying something like, 'God wouldn't approve of the way you're living your life.’ That's how Mary did things."

Rev. Francis Rog of St. Hyacinth Church told ABC 7 Chicago news, "She was a very intense person, concerned about the good of the parish, always seeking things for the poor as well as spiritual welfare for people."

Police recovered Stachowicz’s body on November 15 and charged Gutierrez two days later with first-degree murder, concealing a homicidal death, and burglary for attempting to steal money from Stachowicz’s purse.

Chicago local media reported these events, choosing headlines devoid of the words "gay" or "homosexual." In contrast, several homosexual publications – including Gay.com/PlanetOut.com, Gay People’s Chronicle, and the Washington Blade -- did use "gay" in their headlines.

Gay.com began running the story on November 19, a full week before the first mainstream news story appeared in The Washington Times.

The same day, National Review Online columnist Rod Dreher published a commentary titled These Victims Are People, Too" wherein he lamented "the deafening media silence around the savage murder of Mary Stachowicz" and speculated on its cause:

"One cannot help wondering if the upright citizens who report the news don't privately share the view of gay blogger James Wagner, who said of Stachowicz’s strangling:

The woman who did such great evil is dead, but unfortunately the evil and the church and the society which creates it is not, and it will continue to destroy Nicholas Gutierrez and many others. I shake, safely sitting here at home, fully understanding, and fully familiar with, the horrible impact her words must have had for a man already so terribly damaged by his society, and his own mother.

Dreher added, "I believe many, and probably most, journalists share the unspoken assumption that Christians bring such trouble on themselves."

That assumption appears to be shared by pro-homosexual cyber citizens. A search for "Mary Stachowicz" on message boards, e-mail lists, and Web logs (blogs) turned up several people who reacted viciously toward Stachowicz and Christianity.

For example, James Wagner’s boyfriend, Barry, expressed the hope on his blog that "maybe [Stachowicz’s murder] will strike fear in the hearts of a few fundamentalists" and then asked, "Where do I send a check for his (Gutierrez’s) defense fund?"

James and Barry’s statements drew the following response from fellow homosexual Michael Benedetto:

"I think that if gays are going to continue to have any credibility in politics, our sympathies in cases like this are going to have to lie first and foremost with the victims. And that's one upsetting thing about Barry's and James' posts: Until the criticism started to roll in, the only sympathy they expressed was for the wrong person."

Elsewhere, Benedetto wrote, "[Y]es, the woman (Stachowicz) was clearly a meddlesome b---- who didn't understand that the lives of her co-workers were none of her business. That does not make her any less the victim, or absolve her killer of any of his guilt."

"I don’t condone this murder, BUT …."

Several posts implied that Stachowicz had brought on her own death. One man wrote to a Yahoo discussion forum, "It's Sad Someone Was Murdered, BUT... ...I do wish the Religious Wrong would learn to mind their own business."

"Iris" wrote to the ACLU Online Forum: "I am in no way condoning this man's behavior. Murder is murder. He should receive life or the death penalty for his actions. But one fact remains ... if she would have been minding her own [expletive] business instead of attempting to ram her religion where it didn't belong, none of this would have ever happened. I really don't feel sorry for her. She paid a very steep price for being an arrogant religious fascist. Too bad for her."

"Silence Dogood" agreed: "I won't go so far as to say that she deserved what she got, no one deserves to die, but I won't exactly be shedding any tears for her. Quite frankly, if anyone in this case was being 'persecuted' it was Mr. Gutierrez. Unfortunately for the victim this was a lesson that she learned too hard and too late. Maybe this will give pause to other people who similarly try to ‘help’ homosexuals."

"Real" hate crimes

Other discussions centered on the characteristics of hate crimes. "Real" hate crimes, explained ACLU Online Forum member "morningstar," must be like Matthew Shepard’s murder; they must be premeditated and target a group.

"KingFred" wrote to the MacAddict Forum: "Since (Gutierrez has) already admitted he did the crime, there's no question he should do the time. But ‘hate crime’? Don't see it here. He didn't go out to get himself a Christian. He did in a person who may have been berating him, using her Christian beliefs as ‘weapons'. That doesn't justify what he did by any means, but it may explain it."

Catholic League President William Donohue summed up the problems with hate crimes statutes as illustrated by Mary Stachowicz’s murder in a November 26 press release:

"A few thoughts on this matter: a) this (Mary’s murder) will not be listed as a hate crime, thus showing how useless this category of crime is; b) the killer is going to be charged with a capital offense, thus showing once again how useless this category of crime is; c) Mary Stachowicz will never be remembered the way Matthew Shepard is, thus showing how politically corrupt the whole concept of hate crime legislation really is. The fact is she was murdered for having a Catholic-informed conscience."

Others blamed the Roman Catholic Church for Stachowicz’s murder. On the Naked Writing blog, "JodyW" commented, "Gutierrez is responsible for what he did. So the RCC [Roman Catholic Church] is responsible for continuing to put forth a silly, stupid and factually wrong doctrine of ‘objective disorders’ and ‘intrinsic moral evil’ regarding homosexuality. For all that that evil that that doctrine has done and continues to do, they have a lot to be held accountable for."

Perhaps the cruelest comment of all was this from a San Francisco man on Yahoo: "The b---- had it coming to her. I'm glad he killed her. Too bad he'll probably spend the rest of his life in prison getting his little butt pounded, but still, I'm glad he killed her. The b---- deserved to die."

Mary Stachowicz, R.I.P.

The Chicago Tribune published the following obituary for Mary:

Mary Stachowicz, nee Frank, devoted wife of Jerry; beloved mother of Peter, Christopher, Angela (Louie) Ruffolo and Daniel; loving daughter of Agnes and the late Rudolf Frank; dear sister of Irene (John) Rog and Alice (Mark) Kosinski. Funeral Tuesday, 9:30 a.m., from Cumberland Chapels, 8300 W. Lawrence Ave., Norridge, to St. Hyacinth Church, Mass 11 a.m. Interment St. Adalbert Cemetery.

Four pages of condolences accompanied the obituary, where former classmates, co-workers and other family friends left messages of sympathy for Mary’s tragic demise.

The Chicago Sun-Times reported that, after Mary’s death, Alderwoman Vilma Colom (35th) introduced a city council resolution in her memory. "She lost her life in an unselfish attempt to help a very disturbed young man, and for that she should be remembered," said Colom, who goes to the same church Stachowicz did.

Mary’s sister, Alice Kosinski, told the Chicago Tribune that her sister's death is difficult for everyone in her family to fathom.

"We're not doing that well," she said. "It just doesn't make any sense, and somehow we're going to have to make our peace with it."


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To: What is the bottom line
Persecution, shmersecution. Cry me a river. How do gays have it any worse than Christians do these days? And I ain't talking about How It Used To Be. If you wanna talk about back in the day, I seem to recall something about lions and arenas...
81 posted on 12/05/2002 2:25:36 PM PST by maxwell
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To: What is the bottom line
Okay. This subject makes me grumpy. Please excuse.
82 posted on 12/05/2002 2:25:37 PM PST by RAT Patrol
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To: What is the bottom line
I mean, a kid will get slapped in school alot quicker for "How I spent my summer at Bible camp" than for "How I spent my summer coming out of the closet" these days, seems like...
84 posted on 12/05/2002 2:28:37 PM PST by maxwell
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To: Polycarp
Those who throw the words fascist, nazi, and bigot around are usually projecting their own failings.
85 posted on 12/05/2002 2:29:32 PM PST by weegee
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To: Polycarp
Predictably, the mainstream media and homosexual advocacy organizations have reacted to Mary Stachowicz’s murder the same way they did to 13-year-old Jesse Dirkhising’s torture-murder at the hands of two homosexual men in 1999: by avoiding it. As of December 4, no formal condemnations of Mrs. Stachowicz’s murder have been issued by leading groups such as the Human Rights Campaign, the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force, or the Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation.

Homosexuality, the lifestyle of peace(TM)? Silence can be deafening.

86 posted on 12/05/2002 2:31:36 PM PST by weegee
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To: Polycarp
Homosexuals don't have any business being on this forum.Their intent is to cause division and disruption!
87 posted on 12/05/2002 2:36:45 PM PST by INSENSITIVE GUY
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To: What is the bottom line
a heterosexual pro-homosexualist extremist

Honesty is the best policy. And I'm glad too see you're not a practicing Catholic.

Do us Catholics a favor and cease identifying yourself as one, OK?

88 posted on 12/05/2002 2:41:00 PM PST by Polycarp
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To: Polycarp
"Speak of the devil..."

Like every other sect of society, every walk of life; ours has that (seemingly)required percentage of infection. Those anxious to paint us as evil don't have to shop long to find an appropriate brush.

Excellent article for posting. Thanks.

89 posted on 12/05/2002 2:45:06 PM PST by laotzu
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To: What is the bottom line
Turn it around. If a gay person came to your home and 'witnessed' his or her beliefs to you, and told you you were evil and bound for hell because of your heterosexual lifestyle, would that be vitriol? Um, I think I would be smart, first of all, to either (1) not invite the gay activist type person, or (2) be prepared for his opinion to surface. Why did he invite a Christian into his home if he is so intolerant of different views?

I don't give a rip who thinks I'm going to hell? If a Mormon comes to my door and tells me I'm going to hell so what. It doesn't make it true. He's entitled to his opinion.

There is nothing natural about homosexual sex. That is just biology. Heck, lesbians can't even have sex as defined by the democratic party. Whatever a person wants to think religiously--and the roll religion plays in the moral restraint of human beings is very important--it is not "equal" biologically.

If that makes someone mad I am sorry. Their opinions make me mad too. Especially when they force them on the Boy Scouts, school children, Big Brothers/Big Sisters, the Salvation Army, etc... They are entitled to their opinion, but I wish they'd stop forcing those opinions on others--especially innocent children. This guy could have simply said "I do not appreciate your opinions and I would like you to stop" instead of resorting to murder. School kids who are indoctrinated on the so-called acceptability of homosexuality don't have that privilege.

In short: Gays are the pushy ones who do not respect other people's right to a different opinion. Generally speaking.

91 posted on 12/05/2002 2:49:15 PM PST by RAT Patrol
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To: anniegetyourgun
On the issue of homosexuality, he's lost all perspective as he attempts to prove himself right.

Ever since O'Reilly interviewed Rosie O'Donnell, he seems to have lightened up on the gays. Wussy.

92 posted on 12/05/2002 2:55:37 PM PST by montag813
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To: Right Wing Professor
Thanks for the interesting tidbit on Auberon Waugh. When did he use the term and in what context?

I'm replying privately because I read this thread so late that probably you'd never see my post otherwise!

93 posted on 12/05/2002 3:03:28 PM PST by livius
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To: livius
Ooops, guess I didn't reply privately... Sorry, all!
94 posted on 12/05/2002 3:05:01 PM PST by livius
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To: livius
Thanks for the interesting tidbit on Auberon Waugh. When did he use the term and in what context?

He had a column in the British satirical magazine "Private Eye' titled 'Auberon Waugh's diary'. It was usually very funny. He used the term in reference to those who are not only homosexual but 'in your face' and political about it. I tried a google search using 'Auberon Waugh homosexualist' but came up with no hits. That particular sequence of words may well have him spinning in his grave, though.

96 posted on 12/05/2002 3:09:39 PM PST by Right Wing Professor
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To: INSENSITIVE GUY
Homosexuals don't have any business being on this forum.Their intent is to cause division and disruption!

Not to mention their "jamming" brainwashing techniques:How America went gay

97 posted on 12/05/2002 3:11:21 PM PST by UbIwerks
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To: What is the bottom line
You must be the thought puzzle champion with no answers!
98 posted on 12/05/2002 3:14:33 PM PST by f.Christian
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To: What is the bottom line
Regarding homosexual pedophilia, my understanding is that heterosexuals perpetrate pedophilia at a greater rate than homosexuals.

Not even the homosexualists claim this. Their usual claim is that there are more heterosexual pedophiles than homosexual pedophiles. Given a 98:2 ratio of hets to homos, and given that they count anyone who is married as heterosexual, even if he has sex with boys, this is an obvious attempt to mislead with statistics.

99 posted on 12/05/2002 3:19:54 PM PST by Right Wing Professor
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