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Our conservative college students are fighting back! Where, I wonder, was I and my generation when this liberal propoganda took hold?
1 posted on 12/02/2002 7:12:29 AM PST by geedee
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To: geedee
Probably going along with it just like me.

I would like to see something like this done on the high school level. I'm sure there are stories of kids who get brainwashed in their classes and harrassed if they don't go along with it.
2 posted on 12/02/2002 7:15:24 AM PST by ladylib
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To: geedee
That's because NoIndoctrination.org invites students who believe their professors are egregiously biased or intolerant to post complaints against these professors on the Internet.

We must defend the Internet, it's driving the old libs wild.

3 posted on 12/02/2002 7:19:52 AM PST by xJones
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To: geedee
http://www.noindoctrination.org needs a better server, it's incredibly slow, even on a cable modem.

But, what a public service!
4 posted on 12/02/2002 7:26:22 AM PST by Auntie Mame
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To: geedee
If the people who came here are pushing their ethnic practices and beliefs so hard then why did'nt they simply STAY IN THE COUNTRY FROM WHICH THEY CAME?Simple,they are obviously trying to shove their intolerant ways down our throat and that my friends,IS AN ATTACK ON AMERICA!
7 posted on 12/02/2002 7:57:01 AM PST by INSENSITIVE GUY
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To: geedee
My PhD program in San Diego was rife with the stuff in it's beginning stages. But at least then (1974 beginning), they pretended convincingly to provide for all sides to be presented.

In fact, my professor on the Freudian track first flunked me for my term paper titled: FRODO AND DR FRUD. He had included a list of the points we needed to clearly cover with convincing use/explanation. I suggested he read the paper again--that I'd covered the points thoroughly and accurately. He did read it again and gave me an A or A+. At least HE had intellectual honesty.

The intellectual Riff Raff at UCSD gave that up a long time ago. It was fun being the first person to use UCSD's computer to write a dissertation. But I'm glad that's all I had to use there. What a black hole of nihilsm the place was even then. And if not nihilsm--the State-as-God-ism rang even louder.

I don't think such institutions deserve to be called colleges or universities. The accepted range of thought is too narrow. It's a wonder students are allowed to even squeak farts out through such rigid, tense narrow cheekiness.
8 posted on 12/02/2002 7:59:44 AM PST by Quix
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To: geedee
This type of situation happened to my daughter. As a freshman in College she had to take "Intro to Literature". The course turned out to be taught by a feminist-man-hater-lesbian-foreigner. There was nothing on the list of books to read that even resembled main stream literature. Some was quite pornographic in nature. My daughter called crying because she was supposed to write a paper comparing two short stories and their meanings. When I read them, I was shocked at the content. After further investigation into the course material, I went to see the Dean of the department.

Of course I was instantly regarded as a right-winged-religious nut when I pointed out the inappropriate material. I said, "Don't even go there, it has nothing to do with my personal beliefs." He became defensive and said "well what does it have to do with then". In which I responded, "Truth in advertising". This class was billed as "Intro to Literature", and it should have been billed as "Intro to Feminist writers" or "Intro to anti-male literature". At any rate it has nothing to do with a broad over view of literature as a whole. I then pulled out the reading lists of 10 other Universites for their "Intro to Literature" courses.

He then pulled the liberal mantra that is now used so often . "Professors often teach material based on their life experiences" - In which I responded, "So if a professor was raised in the southern family that were members of the KKK, you would support anti-black literature billed as "Intro to Literature"? I then added that "if that is the case, why did you hire a professor that has such narrow life experiences to teach a broad course, maybe she would be better suited in a feminist studies environment."

He then went into academic freedom etc. I asked if that included grammer and using proper english. He said "Well of course not, this is the English department." I then handed him a copy of her on-line sylibus with 20 corrections to grammer. I added, that at least they could hire English speaking English professors. She had such a thick accent that the students had a hard time understanding her.

In the end, he said he would look into the situation, but he really hesitated to deal with parents concerns. (MY daughter was with me at the time). In his experience it was the parents not the students that had the concerns. THey normally only responded to the concerns of the students. In which I responded, that I was paying the tuition, my daughter was still under age and they better darn well listen to me. I told him that printing the class assignment as a letter to the Editor might be an effective way of getting some light shed - but it would not be printed because of the language in the reading assignment, I said I was taking it to the Higher education board."

As I walked out, I paused and turned back and said - with all of the great literature that they weren't exposed to because of her biases, how can you possibly defend this? Would you have wanted your children to spend time and resources on this filth instead of reading some of the truly great authors? He hung his head.

The next semester, I saw a complete change in the "Intro to literature" course.
9 posted on 12/02/2002 8:09:29 AM PST by ODDITHER
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To: geedee; All
Here at Bucknell University, my friends and I started the Bucknell Conservatives Club. We boast a successful publication, The Counterweight. You can check it out at www.bucknellconservatives.org. Click on "current CW." Tonight, we proudly welcome David Horowitz to speak in the Gallery Theater in the Langone Center at 7pm ... PA Freepers, come!
10 posted on 12/02/2002 8:21:08 AM PST by Truth'sBabyGirl
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To: geedee
I remember when I was in school a few years ago; Most of the teachers and professors if they expressed political opinions were liberal. I enjoyed challenging them and their ideas, which made me stronger in my convictions that I was right. Those students who just go along to get along will never have any conviction in their beliefs and will be no match in a debate. Instead of running to an anonymous web site to launch complaints about victim-hood, stand up and be counted then we will when the upcoming battles.
11 posted on 12/02/2002 8:24:02 AM PST by Fish out of Water
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To: Bob J; diotima; The Shrew; Seeking the truth; MinuteGal; abner; DoughtyOne; Nick Danger; ...
Ping.
14 posted on 12/02/2002 8:30:20 AM PST by Interesting Times
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To: geedee
I don't know about you, but I went to college in the second half of the 60s and most were stoned and on the rug.
15 posted on 12/02/2002 8:32:01 AM PST by Redleg Duke
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To: geedee
Excellent idea. This reminds me of my friend's professor at UMass who described himself as a Marxist "operating behind enemy lines."
18 posted on 12/02/2002 8:35:30 AM PST by Aquinasfan
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To: Clemenza; PARodrig; Yehuda; rmlew
food for thought
22 posted on 12/02/2002 8:55:57 AM PST by Cacique
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To: geedee
I think these web sites are an excellent idea. It's time conservative students networked to end this political madness on our university campuses.

I viewed an interesting expose on a student who had a great idea on his campus. He was tired of the cultural preferences used to make sure every lunatic fringe sexual and deviant lifestyle was represented on the student body pannel. He surmised that his conservatism placed him in a slim miniority on campus.

In truth, out of about 150 professors on campus, only two were registered Republicans. Therefore the student surmised that conservative voices were seldom heard on campus, and he demanded a spot on the student council.

This is an idea that should be implemented on as many campuses as possible.

The campus paper should have conservative representation on a par with liberal representation. There's a lot of room for similar ideas in a number of areas on campuses around the nation.

This should be suggested as a viable game plan on the sights mentioned in the article. Anything we can do to open up those campuses to conservatism is a good thing. I might suggest that if quotas are used in any way with regard to teachers, (so many women to men, blacks or hispanics to whites etc) that a precident has been set that could be used to force more conservative professors onto these campuses. It's certainly worth a try.

23 posted on 12/02/2002 8:58:11 AM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: geedee
My most liberal professor was at her usual best today... the word 'conservative' was used 7 times while describing the 'from outer-space' SCOTUS decisions in two of our cases today. She also called Bradley v Milliken the "most evil decision of the 20th Century" (the court refused to allow the remedy in a racial school case to extend out of the district).

The other thing that bothered me today was her insistence that "property rights are NOT natural rights" and that "property rights are only what the government says they are". I don't know enough yet to intelligently debate the point, but it sure doesn't sound like something from our Founding Fathers writings.

26 posted on 12/02/2002 9:19:58 AM PST by Teacher317
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To: geedee
I wonder, was I and my generation when this liberal propoganda took hold?

In your/our defense, there's a difference between rampant liberal propaganda and campuses transforming themselves into Maoist reeducation camps. The latter has happened only within the past dozen years.

I graduated from college in 1990. This P.C. nonsense only started to surface on my campus during my senior year, and that was only the tip of the iceberg. Since that time, it has spread like a cancer. When I was a student, conservative were at least tolerated and allowed to speak. Now they are shouted down and muzzled by Soviet style speech codes.

As bad as things may have been in the past, it wasn't until very recently that campuses were ripe for this kind of revolution.
27 posted on 12/02/2002 9:32:16 AM PST by Media Insurgent
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To: geedee
I went to a community college and had only one idiot in the bunch. She also taught English lit classes and heavily emphasized on all of the female writers. The only guy I remember was Walt Whitman. Every new author was "the best" and she would treat everyone like they were in kindergarten. I finally walked out after she ignored my questions, which she didn't (or couldn't) answer.

The professor I had for english classes after that was great. I couldn't tell you what his politics might have been or anything like that. he would listen to the students and let them have their say. After they were done, he would pause for just a moment and ask "what about this..." and would make the class look at the problem or situation from a variety of views.
34 posted on 12/02/2002 10:30:25 AM PST by zx2dragon
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To: geedee
No doubt it would have been far better had our nation's colleges and universities not allowed themselves to be hijacked by narrow claque of tenured radical professors.

Is it too late to prepare the gallows for these tenured "educators"? I say better late than never....

40 posted on 12/02/2002 8:06:18 PM PST by F16Fighter
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