[FreedomCalls]

He died in a cave at Tora Bora like we all presumed.

[joesnuffy]

He's dead again..

[NeoCaveman]

He died in a cave at Tora Bora like we all presumed.

That has been my opinion since January and it still is.

[Revolting cat!]

The Swiss, jeez! Can anyone find holes in this?

[ErnBatavia]

Interesting....Swiss lab says "nein" and our high tech stuff, after much agonizing says "Ja".....we'll likely never know.

It's TV Sitcom mentality that decides (based on nothing) he was killed at Tora Bora. It's also the same mentality that will give us a new genre of "Elvis" bunk for the next 80 years.

Bottom line = I don't think we'll ever know.

[CFC__VRWC]

Love the timing. Let's see, three or so weeks ago he was alive. Three or so weeks ago we had ourselves a little election. The people who stood to benefit the most from his being alive (anyone smell a Rat?) got drubbed in said election, and now he's dead again. Move along, folks, nothing to see here...

[RANGERAIRBORNE]

I didn't believe this tape was Bin Laden when it first came out, and I don't believe it now. It is more propaganda crap- on BOTH sides. The IslamoFascists need the mystique of their leader, and we need a bogeyman.

Complete and utter bilge.

[struwwelpeter]

The Swiss are positive, because Binny's secret accounts show no transactions since last December.

[Revolting cat!]

I was in Switzerland less than two months ago, and my pasta supply guy is there now, so I am fully qualified to vouch for the veracity of this report!

[Prolifeconservative]

Just another weekend at Bernie's

[Semper Paratus]

Worm food, maybe 9 months ago.

[The Great Satan]

This Swiss institute sounds like a pretty cool place. They're hiring computer programmers:

About IDIAP

The Dalle Molle Institute for Perceptual Artificial Intelligence (IDIAP, http://www.idiap.ch) is a research institute located in Martigny (Valais, Switzerland) and affiliated with the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology at Lausanne (EPFL) and the University of Geneva. IDIAP is funded by the Swiss Federal Government, the State of Valais, and the City of Martigny, and it is also involved in numerous national and international projects.

The primary focus of IDIAP’s research is speech and speaker recognition, computer vision, and machine learning, and the development of novel multimodal systems to explore new applications for these technologies. IDIAP currently numbers around 45-55 scientists from more than 20 countries, including permanent senior scientists, postdocs, and PhD students. The institute is growing quickly and provides an exciting and supportive environment for doing research and developing innovative software applications.

Location

IDIAP is located in the town of Martigny in Valais, a scenic region in the south-west corner of Switzerland, surrounded by some of the highest mountains in Europe, and offering abundant recreational activities including hiking, climbing and skiing, as well as varied cultural activities. It is less than an hour away from Montreux, Lausanne (EPFL), and Lake Geneva, and centrally located for convenient travel to other parts of Europe.

[Revolting cat!]

Naw, if Elvis, James Dean and Andy Kaufman could fake their deaths, why couln't Binnie?!

[CFC__VRWC]

U.S. experts maintain the tape will likely never be fully authenticated because its poor quality defies complete analysis by even the most sophisticated voice-print technology.

Maybe I'm just going senile, but didn't the "experts" first say that they were 95% sure it was bin Laden's voice because the tape was of such good quality?

[steve-b]

U.S. experts maintain the tape will likely never be fully authenticated because its poor quality defies complete analysis by even the most sophisticated voice-print technology.

That's been my opinion from the beginning -- if the raw information just isn't there, it doesn't matter how sophisticated your technology is.

[AmericaUnited]

It is a very well executed Iraqi forgery.

Laden is laiden under 100 tons of the finest Tora Bora rock.

[guitfiddlist]

"...I, Bin Laden, congratulate the fighters who succesfully destroyed the (snip)french tanker(snip), as well as the (snip) Bali nightclub(snip), and exhort Jihadists to continue the struggle against Western infidels....blah, blah, blah"

How hard is it to cut and paste previous speeches and blatherings? It is apparently in our interests to continue the myth that this atomized piece of crap is still alive.

[F-117A]

He sleeps with the 72 swine!

[Quix]

I still *THINK* it was a computer generated thing using his speech patterns to refine a native speaker already a lot like Bin Laden.

[BuddhaBoy]

I have always felt that Bin Laden was dead.

I also always hoped that we would never come to that conclusion, as long as we have to convince Liberals and their allies that we need to be serious about the War on Terror.

If there is another attack on the US, we dont need everyone thinking that we have to start from scratch with a new villain. We are better off no knowing.

It would not surprise me if the Government knows that he's dead, but wont pass on that information. We need to justify defense spending, the missile shield, the F-22, and a bunch of other programs. Having a bad-guy around is fine with me if it keeps Liberal mouths shut.

[katze]

Agree; and I hope it was a deservably miserable death.