[ErnBatavia]

Interesting....Swiss lab says "nein" and our high tech stuff, after much agonizing says "Ja".....we'll likely never know.

It's TV Sitcom mentality that decides (based on nothing) he was killed at Tora Bora. It's also the same mentality that will give us a new genre of "Elvis" bunk for the next 80 years.

Bottom line = I don't think we'll ever know.

[PoorMuttly]

It's Bert.

[mrustow]

I think it is reasonable to conclude that this tape is not legit, because it isn't even a tape that he sent in directly, the way he did in the past. Instead, it was played to Al Jazeera over the telephone.

I believe that OBL is dead, but wouldn't try and guess where he fell. He might have died of kidney failure. (One of his doctors, Aziz, says OBL was healthy as a horse when he saw him a year-and-a-half ago, with no kidney problems, but then he also says he doesn't believe that OBL was behind 911.) If he were alive, I'm sure we would be getting videotapes, not phoned-in audiotapes.

[Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit]

Bottom line = I don't think we'll ever know.

In about 30 to 40 years we will be able to safely assume that he has come to the end of his natural life, if it hasn't already come to an unnatural end.

Unlike Elvis and the Loch Ness Monster, he cannot live forever.