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No one else has posted this that I can tell. My previous assessment of Mr. Shermer's ability to discern value must now be reappraised.

I also add, "Design, I know it when I see it."

1 posted on 11/26/2002 7:25:35 PM PST by AndrewC
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To: AndrewC
It's in the math!
2 posted on 11/26/2002 7:29:16 PM PST by Southack
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To: AndrewC
Um, they've known this in the advertising business for HOW long?
3 posted on 11/26/2002 7:29:31 PM PST by tet68
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To: scripter; Heartlander; f.Christian; gore3000; CalConservative; Alamo-Girl; jennyp; *crevo_list
Intuitive ping. To jennyp: I pinged you because Shermer was the author and I have berated him due to Hardison.
4 posted on 11/26/2002 7:31:57 PM PST by AndrewC
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To: AndrewC
I would like the Scientific American to analyze the Star Trek episode where Spock has to have sex once every 7 years or he goes crazy.
6 posted on 11/26/2002 7:35:00 PM PST by PJ-Comix
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The Captain Kirk principle. Would that be "Loudly claim how very important the Prime Directive is, while violating it IN EVERY SINGLE EPISODE?"
Is THAT the Captain Kirk principle they speak of?
8 posted on 11/26/2002 7:38:22 PM PST by Billy_bob_bob
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To: AndrewC
I thought the Kirk principle was "If you can't have sex with it, blow the crap out of it!"
11 posted on 11/26/2002 7:45:55 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants
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Actually,the Captain Kirk principle is to always send out the red shirted guys first, and to feel bad when good ol' Ensign Whozits buys the farm.
14 posted on 11/26/2002 7:50:24 PM PST by Chancellor Palpatine
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I always like to compare the clinton administration to the "Kobiayashi Maru" test. clinton hates to lose.

If you can't make the numbers what you want, change how you count the numbers.

15 posted on 11/26/2002 7:52:18 PM PST by copycat
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To: AndrewC
intuition is baloney...
intuition is a biggie with feministas.
hyperemotive driven behaviors... are endocrine system driven.

"first impressions" that they use to try and nail down similarities between a teacher in 30 second review vs.in class, flow from INTELLECT based on past, factual experience. That's not "intuition" its template application based on an internal database of factual experiences, properly perceived.

ALL that is "good" about what they are calling "intuition" here, is acgally internal "ods making" Las Vegas style, based on experiences as we have perceived them. And that is why raw "intuitions" cannot EVER be trusted without intellectual cognition.

IE. If you see a girl that looks like your first lover, ods are you would find her attractive even if you did not know she was an epileptic (if that former lover had worked out for you on some level), or you might find a really wonderful person, repulsive (if the girls she reminded you gave you syph, or left you for your best friend, or your sister...).

The problem is, you may find another person repulsive at first, but later find that "john" was nothing like your psycho 11th grade football coach in high school. Hence, "don't judge a book by its cover."

Intuition can often become more useful as "experiences" form a database and templates for future growth and interaction. OR, it can become debilitating as one becomes hormonally addicted to the emotive aspects that are not productive.

I trust my parents "intuition" better known as "ods making skills", based on decades of personal experience than I do my adult children's. Mom and Dad have a much larger database of events and persons to consider and form their "impressions."

Perception based on experience is being blurred here with "intuition" which is usually a code word for liberal-feminists whose default setting is the hyper-emotive-state d'jour for ill advised decisions NOT based on intellect. Wise women know these for what they are more commonly recognised as: "irrational" choices and behaviors.

I don't think much of intution as a basis for anything, especially for the young..
18 posted on 11/26/2002 8:04:56 PM PST by Robert_Paulson2
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I know how exactly how the alternative Kirk feels -- everytime I get out on the road then get cutoff by one more %&*#! pinhead!
20 posted on 11/26/2002 8:08:04 PM PST by F16Fighter
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Cops have been scientifically proven to be able to tell when a person is lying more often than the general public. The tecnique they use is still under scientific debate, but their accuracy is theorized to be the result of observing what a perp does while he's telling his story.

In other words, observation is the key. Heck...I knew Clinton was a cheap crook in 1993. I knew Jim Baker was a crook long before he was caught at it...and told my parents, who thought I was paranoid. Until he was shown for the fraud he is.

25 posted on 11/26/2002 9:00:18 PM PST by cake_crumb
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Chess masters often "know" the right move to make even if they cannot articulate how they know it. As a rather accomplished Chess player, I can tell you that what Shermer is articulating is not analogous to the example he used. Analogous to the chess example would be the driving of an auto while negotiating city traffic ... the training guides the action at a 'different' (perhaps less conscious) level than contemplative thinking.
26 posted on 11/26/2002 9:06:55 PM PST by MHGinTN
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To: AndrewC
No one else has posted this that I can tell.

If you were intuitive, you would just know.

31 posted on 11/26/2002 9:24:26 PM PST by Nick Danger
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To: AndrewC
And here I thought that the Captain Kirk principle was that 'if you're a bit player, never get into a shuttle craft'.
36 posted on 11/26/2002 9:44:00 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: AndrewC
Saurian Brandy!

I said, give me Saurian Brandy!

(I liked that episode).

41 posted on 11/26/2002 11:22:12 PM PST by altair
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To: AndrewC
Bump.
47 posted on 11/27/2002 4:08:23 AM PST by Skooz
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To: AndrewC
People who are highly skilled in identifying "micromomentary" facial expressions are also more accurate in judging lying. In testing college students, psychiatrists, polygraphists, court judges, police officers and Secret Service agents on their ability to detect lies, only the agents, trained to look for subtle cues, scored above chance.
Here's a fascinating article by Malcolm Gladwell (a redundant statement IMO!) about reading people's faces.
Some years ago, John Yarbrough was working patrol for the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department. It was about two in the morning. He and his partner were in the Willowbrook section of South Central Los Angeles, and they pulled over a sports car. "Dark, nighttime, average stop," Yarbrough recalls. "Patrol for me was like going hunting. At that time of night in the area I was working, there was a lot of criminal activity, and hardly anyone had a driver's license. Almost everyone had something intoxicating in the car. We stopped drunk drivers all the time. You're hunting for guns or lots of dope, or suspects wanted for major things. You look at someone and you get an instinctive reaction. And the longer you've been working the stronger that instinctive reaction is."

Yarbrough was driving, and in a two-man patrol car the procedure is for the driver to make the approach and the officer on the passenger side to provide backup. He opened the door and stepped out onto the street, walking toward the vehicle with his weapon drawn. Suddenly, a man jumped out of the passenger side and pointed a gun directly at him. The two of them froze, separated by no more than a few yards. "There was a tree behind him, to his right," Yarbrough recalls. "He was about seventeen. He had the gun in his right hand. He was on the curb side. I was on the other side, facing him. It was just a matter of who was going to shoot first. I remember it clear as day. But for some reason I didn't shoot him." Yarbrough is an ex-marine with close-cropped graying hair and a small mustache, and he speaks in measured tones. "Is he a danger? Sure. He's standing there with a gun, and what person in his right mind does that facing a uniformed armed policeman? If you looked at it logically, I should have shot him. But logic had nothing to do with it. Something just didn't feel right. It was a gut reaction not to shoot— a hunch that at that exact moment he was not an imminent threat to me." So Yarbrough stopped, and, sure enough, so did the kid. He pointed a gun at an armed policeman on a dark street in South Central L.A., and then backed down. ...


59 posted on 11/28/2002 2:40:45 PM PST by jennyp
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To: AndrewC
I thought the Captain Kirk Principle was if it's green and has breasts, then sleep with it.
64 posted on 11/30/2002 10:46:23 PM PST by Jhoffa_
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