Archaeologists Announce Discovery Of Underwater Man-Made Wall (Very Old)

China Post ^ | 11-26-2002

[blam]

Archaeologists announce discovery of underwater man-made wall

2002/11/26
The China Post staff

Underwater archaeologists yesterday announced the discovery of a man-made wall submerged under the waters of the Pescadores Islands that could be at least six and seven thousand years old.

Steve Shieh, the head of the planning committee for the Taiwan Underwater Archaeology Institute, said the wall was discovered to the northwest of Tong-chi Island in the Pescadores towards the end of September.

The stone wall, with an average height of one meter and a width of 50 centimeters, covers a distance of over 100 meters, Hsieh said.

The wall ran along the ocean floor at depths of between 25 and 30 meters, he added.

Shieh said that divers found several places along the wall where holes were apparently filled up with pebbles, possibly in an attempt to block winds.(Maybe to keep out the rising water?)

The wall was located by a team of divers working in cooperation with the National Museum of History and the Department of Environmental Sciences at the National Sun Yat-sen University.

In August, researchers scanning waters in the area with sonar discovered what appeared to be the remnants of four to five man-made walls running along the bottom of the sea.

Please see WALL on page(I could not find a map, if you can, please post it.)

Despite difficult diving conditions, Shieh said that a team of more than ten specialists was able to ascertain the positions of at least three of the wall sections.

The proximity of the wall to a similar structure found in 1976 suggests that it may be further evidence of a pre-historical civilization.

A three meter high underwater wall was discovered by amateur divers in waters off the nearby Hu-ching (Tiger Well) Island.

British archaeologists examined the find and proclaimed that the wall was probably made between 7,000 and 12,000 years ago.

The current find stands a mere 100 meters from the site of that discovery.

Six years ago, evidence of a sunken city in the area was found when amateur divers found the remains of what appear to be city walls taking the shape of a cross on the ocean floor.

Further examination suggested the ruins were made between seven and ten thousand years ago as well, although Japanese researchers put the walls construction at between 10,000 and 80,000 years ago.

Taken together, the discoveries have helped to overturn the established notion that Taiwan's earliest aboriginal inhabitants made their way here from mainland China some 6,000 years ago.(There goes the giant hynea theory, huh?)

The underwater finds are part of a growing body of evidence suggesting the existence of civilizations older than anything previously imagined.(suprise, suprise, suprise--Gomer Pyle voice)

On this theory, entire cities ended up underwater after sea levels rose towards the end of the last Ice Age, a date cited by Plato as being some 9,600 years ago.

One of the most dramatic examples of evidence of civilizations found on ocean beds has been megalithic structures off the coast of Yonaguni-jima in Japan that have been interpreted in some circles as being built for sacrificial rites. According to Shieh, a similar structure has been located off of the shores of Taiwan's Pingtung County .

Shieh said that he and his association have plans to explore that location as well as what appears to be a man-made path on the ocean floor off of Taitung County sometime next year.

[LostTribe]

>Meantime, their language had changed from Semitic in family to Indoeuropean, which is difficult enough to understand given that their Assyrian captors were themselves Semitic.

Thank You. Language is the poorest of all "indicators" of who when where and when. Think about it, how long does it take a European family which moved to America before it loses all touch with European language and cultural roots. 3 generations? 2 generations? And this with modern day transportation and communication. While language links are taught in school as being important, no real archeologist relies on them as other than an afterthefact curiosity.

That being said, there are numerous links between the Hebrew of that day and modern European languages.

[#3Fan]

Nope, the water didn't do anything. Didn't you see the exact same structures on land nearby? The structures were above water, the humans rearranged and carved some faces on them, then, the oceans rose and covered them. (it's that simple)

The scientists I saw were speaking of the currents. I didn't see any 'exact" same structures. I saw a lot of things that had some form but not to the point of forming stages. I believe that humans used the grain of the geology to form the stage. It's too uniform.

At any rate it's not really important whether the stage was formed naturally or not. The scientists speaking against this structure were doing so to prove that the place didn't have any history related to man. The faces prove them wrong. I don't include Schott in this, he was careful in his words. But I know he wouldn't repeat what he said before the faces were photographed.

[Little Bill]

I expect archaeology/anthropology will be shaken to the core when it is.

I expect that it will be also. This is one of the reason that I put so little trust in the numbers, population, that are thrown around, It seems that you can't put a spade in the ground with out finding a human culture, often in the most supprising places.

[A.J.Armitage]

Uh huh. Yeah.

[VadeRetro]

No really. A Semitic people is conquered by another Semitic people. The conquerees, by the time they free themselves, have adopted a language from God-Knows-Where unrelated to others in the area at the time and call themselves by another name. It's almost as if they are somebody else.

[#3Fan]

I'm thinking of the washing machine, when you have clothes in the 'spin' cycle and there's a pair of jeans wadded up on one side.

Good analogy.

The 'clunk clunk clunk' you can hear from the other side of the house caused by the imbalance. As I see it, this *has* to happen to a spinning ball like the Earth as ice builds up. And computers should be able to give some very good ideas as to the how, when, where.

I think a pole shift could trigger it since everywhere there's solidified lava, there should be a slight force that wants to align with the North and South. Integrate that force everywhere on the planet and the force may be enough to overcome the static friction that keeps everything in place at the moment. (Static friction between two entities is greater than kinetic friction between those same two entities by the way). But that's something I thought of two days ago and haven't seen anyone else with that theory. Scientists believe that our core is getting ready to flip it's poles. If it happens within the next few decades, we'll see. There may not be enough ice built up to get it going though since there's no land on the North Pole. Of course Geenland is pulling.

The one big question to me is, what about the acceleration from such a momentum change? Wouldn't that destroy all buildings, throw people miles, etc?

The ancient accounts say it took all day for this to happen so the speed of this would not be much more than a thousand miles an hour. Imagine taking 3 hours to accelerate from 0 to 1000 miles an hour and then another three hours to go back to 0. The acceleration would not be great at all, barely perceptable. I think there would be great winds though since the atmosphere is miles and miles thick. And the friction between the crust and the mantle would cause a lot of the earth's volcanos to erupt at once. "The fountains of the earth were broken up" paraphrasing from the bible during Noah's flood. So between the wind and the rumbling ground there probably wouldn't be many buildings left standing.

We now know 'gravity' is actually curvature of the 'fabric' of the universe. Is it possible something about gravity prevents us from such acceleration changes outside our slice of 'space/time'?

There seems to be a concept of zero velocity, zero acceleration in relation to the whole of the universe. Otherwise we'd see objects moving at nearly the speed of light and maybe even dipping in and out of time.

[A.J.Armitage]

Language is the poorest of all "indicators" of who when where and when. Think about it, how long does it take a European family which moved to America before it loses all touch with European language and cultural roots. 3 generations? 2 generations? And this with modern day transportation and communication.

That's because they're surrounded by another culture they adopt. They don't suddenly start speaking an Asian language. Languages have continuity, they come from somewhere.

That being said, there are numerous links between the Hebrew of that day and modern European languages.

Prove it.

Borrowings through the Old Testament don't count.

[#3Fan]

Prove it.

In the spirit of Thanksgiving "tookee" and "turkey". The Hebrew pronunciation for "big ole pheasant" was tookee, modern english is turkey. See a Strong's Concordance for more.

[WaterDragon]

Why would they have wanted to block holes in the wall with pebbles, a wall underwater?

[killjoy]

Taken together, the discoveries have helped to overturn the established notion that Taiwan's earliest aboriginal inhabitants made their way here from mainland China some 6,000 years ago.(There goes the giant hynea theory, huh?)

The aboriginals in Taiwan are of Polynesian origin, not Chinese.

[LostTribe]

>Prove it.

Go look it up yourself and stop being such a self-centered arrogant little twit. I have no intention of typing many pages of examples just so you won't have to do your homework before you shoot of your oversize mouth.

[#3Fan]

Imagine taking 3 hours to accelerate from 0 to 1000 miles an hour and then another three hours to go back to 0. The acceleration would not be great at all, barely perceptable.

That going up 1 mile per hour every 10.8 seconds. You wouldn't feel it acceleration wise. The winds would pick up all day though.

[MHGinTN]

Do you know of any website where I might take a look at the 'faces'?

[#3Fan]

Here's a site with some cool music. Blam's probably got a better link with fuller pictures.

[A.J.Armitage]

From dictionary.com:

tur·key    ( P )  Pronunciation Key  (tûrk)
n. pl. tur·keys

1.
a. A large North American bird (Meleagris gallopavo) that has brownish plumage and a bare wattled head and neck and is widely domesticated for food.
b. A related bird (Agriocharis ocellata) of Mexico and Central America, brilliantly colored and having eyelike spots on its tail.


2. Slang.
a. A person considered inept or undesirable.
b. A failure, especially a failed theatrical production or movie.

3. Sports. Three consecutive strikes in bowling.

Idiom:
talk turkey Informal

To speak frankly and get down to the basic facts of a matter.
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[After Turkey, from a confusion with the guinea fowl, once believed to have originated in Turkish territory.]

A few words that sound similar do not make a connection. You need a pattern, which means especially a pattern of change, such as the initial Ps becoming Fs (Pater/Father).

And while I'm mentioning it, explain how all these Hebrews wound up talking in languages so much like Latin.

[MHGinTN]

I've seen the pix Santha Faiia took off of Okinawa, but I was wondering if there are other shots beside hers posted at GrahamHancock.com.

[A.J.Armitage]

Go look it up yourself and stop being such a self-centered arrogant little twit. I have no intention of typing many pages of examples just so you won't have to do your homework before you shoot of your oversize mouth.

Translation: "I got nothing."

[blam]

"Blam's probably got a better link with fuller pictures."

Sorry, don't have any.

[#3Fan]

Here's a picture showing size.

[#3Fan]

A few words that sound similar do not make a connection. You need a pattern, which means especially a pattern of change, such as the initial Ps becoming Fs (Pater/Father).

The tribes went through the Caucusus and Turkey. That's one of many examples. If you don't want to believe it then you don't want to believe it. There isn't anything I can do to prove it to you, circumstancial evidence will never mean anything to you. I think it's obvious, especially with the Scandinavian languages. They have an Hebrew accent in my opinion.

And while I'm mentioning it, explain how all these Hebrews wound up talking in languages so much like Latin.

The same way the world speaks English now. When in Rome...