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"We shall fight on the beaches. We shall fight on the landing grounds. We shall fight in the fields, and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills. We shall never surrender!" - Winston Churchill, June 4, 1940

Doing the right thing has consequences. I hope Blair will ditch this PC nonsense and nail the blighters before they do anything.

Regards, Ivan

1 posted on 11/24/2002 12:42:47 AM PST by MadIvan
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2 posted on 11/24/2002 12:43:17 AM PST by MadIvan
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To: MSCASEY
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5 posted on 11/24/2002 12:48:20 AM PST by MSCASEY
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To: MadIvan
GOOGLE Search Term: "Mohammed al-Massari"
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6 posted on 11/24/2002 12:50:57 AM PST by Cindy
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To: MadIvan
Nice job on this Ivan. This takes the threats to Salmon Rushdie to a whole new level.

Instead of one single man who purportedly insulted the Islamic faith, we now have a no holds barred, total declaration of violence against everyone who is not of the faith.

The aftermath of this can only be the end of a now decadent religious philosphy. or at least Islam's last gasp, as it enters the abyss and lands in the ashcan of history.

9 posted on 11/24/2002 1:09:56 AM PST by Cold Heat
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To: MadIvan
I hope Blair will ditch this PC nonsense and nail the blighters before they do anything.

I fear the West need take a few serious hits first.
10 posted on 11/24/2002 1:11:28 AM PST by polemikos
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To: MadIvan
Thanks Ivan
I've saved that picture of Churchill.
-Anatol
14 posted on 11/24/2002 2:25:35 AM PST by anatolfz
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Osama issues new call to arms

Excerpt:

Security authorities in Europe and America are concerned al-Qaeda is planning a major strike. Two weeks ago bin Laden issued a message on an audio cassette, proving he was alive and raising fears it presaged new attacks.

Britain, with its close support for America in the war on terror and Iraq, is a prime target and analysts believe any military action against Saddam Hussein would provoke a spate of revenge attacks by Islamic militants. Sources described the mood in Whitehall and at Scotland Yard as 'jumpy'.

The translated letter was originally posted in Arabic on a Saudi Arabian website previously used by al-Qaeda to disseminate messages. Within the last two weeks British Islamists have translated the letter, the most comprehensive explanation of bin Laden's ideology to be issued for several years, and posted it on English-language websites run from the UK.


Churchill Speech – Finest Hour



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15 posted on 11/24/2002 4:01:51 AM PST by MeekOneGOP
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To: MadIvan
Just finished Wm. Manchester's book The Last Lion on the years preceding Mr. Churchill's becoming Prime Minister. The parallels were more astounding than the rhetoric we generally hear in the media and from our politicians, although I think Bush and Blair completely understand the seriousness of the problem.
16 posted on 11/24/2002 4:22:44 AM PST by Peach
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eat my ass osama

buy CITGO,AND HESS!

17 posted on 11/24/2002 4:25:20 AM PST by RIGHT IN SEATTLE
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An Open Letter to Osama Bin Laden

Dear Idiot:

I read about your letter in the Observer. I have to ask, what is it that you have between your ears, camel excrement?

Your lads have done nothing but succeed in angering America with the World Trade Centre attack, angering Australia with the Bali attack, angering Israel with repeated provocations, and now you're angering Britain. What is your problem, is kidney disease not dispatching you to Hell quickly enough? Do just hate your friends and want them to end up carved up like a Christmas goose by the SAS and Gurkhas?

If you are serious and you are hoping to threaten and cow us into bending to your goat buggering excuse for a religion, I have to say now, you are doomed to fail. If you had read your history other than that useful emergency toilet paper substitute, the Koran, you would realise that threatening the British has precisely the opposite effect of cowing us. Ask the French knights that were slain at Agincourt. Ask Napoleon. Ask Hitler. Oh sorry, you can't ask them - just like you will be shortly, they are dead.

We are coming for you, pig shite. The SAS are creeping like shadows across the desert. Delta Force is sharpening their knives. The Australian SAS is ready to hang you from the nearest coolabah tree and go Waltzing Matilda. The Gurkhas want to collect your henchmen's heads to put over the mantlepiece back at HQ. Hopefully one of these groups will find you, tear out that charcoal briquette you call a heart, tear off your worm-riddled head and use the stump of your neck as a urinal while singing patriotic anthems.

And when you are dead, the world will be a better place. And when your rancid excuse of a faith is defeated, the mosques blown up, every last practitioner of clitorectomies shot in the head, and every last burqua burned, humanity will have achieved another victory for freedom.

Till then, quake in fear. Death and hell are coming.

Yours sincerely,

Mad Ivan
London, England

18 posted on 11/24/2002 4:37:27 AM PST by MadIvan
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'Anyone who tries to destroy our villages and cities, then we are going to destroy their villages and cities. Anyone who steals our fortunes, then we must destroy their economy. Anyone who kills our civilians, then we are going to kill their civilians.'

This rant reminds me of a skit I once read in one of the "Monty Python" books. The exact details of the skit escape me but it was a satire on violence and those who perpetrate it. It went like this;

The best form of defence is attack. And the most vital element of attack is surprise. So attack your opponent before he attacks you. Even better. You can render your assailant unconscious before he is even aware of your very existence."

This seems to be bin Laden's mantra. His unbridled aggression and hatred is now being cloaked in the mantra of "self-defence."

"We're just defending ourselves."

"Against whom?"

" Well anyone who's not Islamic."

" But they haven't done anything to you."

" Well they will. Or they might. So let's kill them all first."

Using this kind of logic, it's not hard to see that any form of barbarity can be justified.

21 posted on 11/24/2002 5:19:10 AM PST by marshmallow
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describing the 'Islamic nation' as 'eager for martyrdom'.

we should all do our part to help the entire nation of islam kill itself, since they are so eager,

23 posted on 11/24/2002 5:34:34 AM PST by TaxPayer2000
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To: MadIvan
This is a great thread! Excellent pic of Churchill too!

What say you? will you yield, and this avoid, Or, guilty in defence, be thus destroy'd?

The only problem with this question is that it assumes that the one being asked is a human being. As you stated in your "open letter to bin dyin".......he is an IDIOT with camel fertilizer between his ears. And Saddamned is just like him. These "humans" lost their souls long ago.

30 posted on 11/24/2002 6:45:24 AM PST by Reborn
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Osama's rantings and ravings don't frighten us, but it does show how utterly important it is to find and destroy him (and Omar, and all the others we haven't gotten yet) just because of the effects his lunatic ravings have on his followers around the world. For months we've heard the Bush administration tell us on cable news that it isn't important if we get Osama, he's just one man. Well that is total poppycock, as this latest diatribe reveals. One MUST destroy one's enemy completely and totally and that includes their top leaders who spur them on to more violence. I hope the Bush administration takes this latest missive from Osama as a cue to keep the presssure on Pakistan to let the US military into those areas controlled by these militants. The bombing campaigns should be allowed to continue in those areas of Pakistan where he is suspected to be hiding. The locals can be urged to leave if they want to minimize civilian casualties for PR purposes. But since Pakistan won't let us in there, there is no other conclusion to make but that they are deliberately sheltering Osama bin Laden.
35 posted on 11/24/2002 8:01:24 AM PST by Savvymusician
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"We shall fight on the beaches. We shall fight on the landing grounds. We shall fight in the fields,
and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills. We shall never surrender!" - Winston Churchill, June
4, 1940


With what? Since you gave up your guns will you meet the enemy with those "traditional" peasant weapons, the garden hoe, the hay rake and the pitch fork?
36 posted on 11/24/2002 8:01:50 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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I expect to soon hear reports from "unnamed sources" in "intelligence" stating "off the record" that these writings are undoubtedly from Osama and is proof that he is still alive.

Other “unnamed sources” speaking in “strict confidentiality” will then corroborate it.

And thus, it will become truth.

37 posted on 11/24/2002 8:06:44 AM PST by avg_freeper
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Our pal bin Laden has been reading a bit too much Noam Chomsky. Same style.

What did we do to him?

The more I look at it, the more I think he's been a secret Iraqi agent all this time. Why? Because everything he's done has been in support of Iraq's interests.

He was originally angry at the Saudis for inviting Americans into his country to defend against Iraq, instead of letting him do the defending. He had an elaborate and implausible plan to use earthmoving equipment and the mujheeden to create a defense against Iraq. I would have been very surprised if it would have worked against the Iraqis, which is why the Saudis chose us to defend their land. This setback appears to have really, really pissed him off.

That's the original sin. Everything else, including sympathy for the Palastinians, is window dressing.

Now he talks about the Iraqi sanctions. How convenient for Saddam.

So, to summarize, he advocated a defence plan that probably would not have worked against Iraq, and his big causes are Palastinians and the Iraqi sanctions. Everything he's done has supported Iraq in some way or another.

Incidentally, the Saudis know that low oil prices are in their best interests. If oil prices are high, we simply reduce our use of oil. So if bin Laden should be mad at one entity for low oil prices, it's the Saudis.

I am frankly puzzled by his actions, since I don't think he would have had that much trouble taking over the Saudi government and re-making it in his own image (which isn't that different from where it is now, except he would be in power instead of them).

But he chose to attack the US instead, and that's not going to fly. By now, I would have thought he'd know this.

D

38 posted on 11/24/2002 8:51:31 AM PST by daviddennis
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Read this (Full text: bin Laden's 'letter to America' ) and tell me if you don't agree that the only thing keeping Osama from running for the 2004 Democratic Presidential ticket is that he was not born in the US. Take that back, dems probably think that people should be able to be president without being born here.
49 posted on 11/24/2002 11:07:58 AM PST by sixmil
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Ditching PC's death grip will not only save Britain, but the US and Israel as well.

Will one or more succumb before the others wake up?

56 posted on 11/24/2002 11:57:34 AM PST by Abar
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To: MadIvan
SO this is what OSAMA has been doing the past year. Writing this incoherent drivel.
60 posted on 11/24/2002 12:28:30 PM PST by rs79bm
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