Posted on 11/22/2002 7:25:25 PM PST by where's_the_Outrage?
NASHINGTO- Teddy Roosevelt, sitting proudly on his oil-W painted horse in the White House room with his name, must have been horrified at Dr. Condoleezza Rice.
As President Bush's national security advisor, she should have known better. She wasn't supposed to say that. Not in a White House peopled with conservative Republicans. Not to a group of black columnists representing major newspapers from around the country.
Not in the Roosevelt Room.
''Race matters in America,'' Rice said. ''It has, it always has. Maybe there will be a day when it doesn't, but I suspect that it will for a long time to come.''
For the record, Rice didn't stutter or backtrack at the end of her interview with the Trotter Group. Instead, she did something that black conservatives aren't known for: She publicly acknowledged the reality and validity of the race question.
Now before you right-wingers get your boxers in a bunch, take a breath. She didn't go Al Sharpton on us, pledging to support reparations. She didn't say that Bush would apologize for the U.S. government's role in the slave trade.
But Rice did increase her credibility with us by affirming her place in the continuing cultural and political struggle that black people in the United States are engaged in - and she did it on her own terms.
Black conservatives, take note: It's OK to admit that race is still a problem in this country. You don't have to sink into denial. The sky won't fall down. The ground won't swallow you up.
It doesn't mean that you have to join Jesse Jackson's Rainbow Coalition, take Congresswoman Maxine Waters to lunch or join the NAACP.
It's safe to take your heads out of the sand and face the truth: While the United States has made tremendous progress on race, it still has a long way to go.
The December 2002/January 2003 edition of Savoy magazine has an extensive article on a class-action discrimination lawsuit that has been filed against Xerox. The plaintiffs contend that sales territories are segregated, promotions are race-based and harassment can take the form of hanging nooses being displayed in some Xerox facilities.
Xerox denies any discrimination, but there is plenty of reason to doubt its denial. According to Savoy writer Marjorie Whigham-Desir, the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission dismisses about 80 percent of the complaints lodged by citizens against employers believed to be discriminatory. But Whigham-Desir reported that the EEOC has affirmed the group and individual complaints against Xerox, finding that ''reasonable cause exists to believe'' the charges that the plaintiffs have made.
And in case you Bill Clinton-haters out there are wondering, this is the 2002 Bush EEOC, not that old, tired Clinton-era model.
So maybe Rice isn't alone in the Bush White House. Maybe the GOP is slowing veering away from the Republican Party of 1964, which dealt a fatal blow to race relations during the GOP Convention led by Sen. Barry Goldwater's Cow Palace Republicans in San Francisco. These Republicans were so hostile toward blacks that Hall-of-Famer and convention attendee Jackie Robinson said: ''I now believe I know how it felt to be a Jew in Hitler's Germany.''
At least we can take comfort in knowing that the Bush administration, whatever it's other faults may be, doesn't buy into the lies that have blocked qualified blacks from serving at the highest levels of government. Certainly, it's a good sign that Rice and Secretary of State Colin Powell hold two of the top four slots in the Bush White House, a point not lost on Rice.
''I think it says to people that there aren't boundaries in which black Americans are not supposed to play,'' she said. ''I think that's an extremely important message to the rest of the world.
''I am African American and proud of it,'' Rice said later. ''I wouldn't have it any other way. I do not believe that it has limited who I am or what I can become.''
Conservative or not, I can respect that. And frankly, it's easier to respect people with whom you disagree when you know you share an appreciation for your common experiences. And so under Teddy Roosevelt's watchful, if skeptical gaze, Condoleezza Rice - a fan of Motown, Clarence ''Gatemouth'' Brown and Kool and the Gang as well as Brahms - gave and gained a lot of respect last week.
David Person's column appears each Friday on the Commentary page. E-mail: davidpe@htimes.com; phone 532-4362.
While you were busy living in Chicago and Manhattan, did you ever bother to go and even check out Washington Heights or Hyde Park as a place to live? Or better yet, Ozone Park or Canarsie in NYC or the northwest side of Chicago or Harvey?
Ain't it grand to be able to afford to pretend to be non-racist in you all-white enclaves?
BTW, I didn't say I was prejudiced. I just stated certain preferences in my living arrangements. Preferences aren't prejudices. At least not according to the English language I learned.
Damn Thad, well done! I liked that one. You know damn well that I'm pretty much east Mississippi piney woods descended and I can't claim much slave ownership in my past. However, my wife has very strong antebellum ancestry. Can I count her's? That may be your wittiest retort yet.
I hate to be tacky but do you really consider slaves with white skin and blonde hair to be "classier" than slaves with dark hair and non-white skin? Isn't that sort of err.....a racist presumption in it's own right. I suppose since you uttered it then of course not....it couldn't be.
I think your post was very eloquent on many many levels. Moreover, something you said about 2 weeks ago was even more telling. I will paraphrase, so please forgive anything lost or misinterpreted:
- Dr. Rice terrifies the "black leaders" and the Liberals because she is achieving without their help, blessing, or aid. On the contrary, she is succeeding without them. Should this continue, she owes them nothing, and marginalizes them to the doldrums of insignificance.
Name me a KKK Dragon ( or whatever Byrd is ), in the present ( or even one in the last three decades ! ) GOP.
AS for the rest of your diatribe, I'd much prefer to live nextdoor to a BLACK Conservative, than nextdoor to you. Though I doubt that you could afford to. LOL
Every now and then, I am reminded that I am glad you are on this forum. You don't let others get away with sophomoric rants--and it is refreshing.
BTW, Larry Bird's not white - he's see-through!
As for the other places, I don't choose to live in a slum and since I could and can afford better, I did. Obviously, for all of your preening and dropping of your " pedagree ", your ancestors , not only didn't leave you any of their couth, nor money. :-)
I told you, that where I lived wasn't an " ALL WHITE ENCLAVE "; but your reading comprehension isn't quite up to snuff. Yes, NOW , my closest neighbors are white; however, that wasn't always so and our country club, here, has members of ALL races and religions. So does this town ; my immediate neighbors ( and there aren't many ), just happen to be white. If a black or Asian couple moved in nextdoor, I wouldn't have a fit; unless they were damned Liberals or someone like you
Look up the word " preddjudice " ; the meanings are varied and many. You still fit the bill. LOL
Most of the chest-thumping about how "unracist I am" is all so much hot-air.
I doubt most of those people have a clue about what the Civil Rights movement was about, or why the Clintoonized "race-discussion" is such utter nonesense in comparison to it.
"For all the supposed non-Racist whites here, lets get an honest answer to a couple of questions. Would you have a problem with your white daughter marrying someone of a different race, especially a black man? Would you have a problem moving to a middle class all black neighborhood? Or with your neighborhoods suddenly becoming 50% black as a bunch of middle class blacks moved in?"
docmcb: you gave this reply: Answers: No, not if he were a Christian. No, and no.
and I say: DITTO!
and To: Hermann the Cherusker
As a matter of fact I'd rejoice if he had the character of Walter Williams, J.C. Watts or Colin Powell - character, I'm not talking about the money or power - they are just examples we will mutually recognize. Now if they were like Jesse Jackson, who cheats on his wife, then not only NO but HELL NO - why? it has nothing to do with a man's skin color, but his individual unique character. I would discourage my daughter from marrying a white fella if he was like Slick Willy or any other liberal fruitcake philanderer and fornicating cheat. So, are all black men cheaters? Are all whites "saints"? Hell no, and no one but God knows exactly how many and which ones are what really matters - of good or bad character - cheating sacks of horse hockey or worthy of my daughter, and in the end, "there can be only one" when it comes to marrying my daughter, which means that every other man, be he white or black is REJECTED, and that equally. Which just goes to show if you make a decision based on skin color alone you're a racist - and you in fact just did, asking / baiting us to make such a weak-minded and lazy decision. See, to true Christians and Conservatives, the skin is really transparent, and in that way shouldn't matter - we all bleed red and we all die. It should be seen past: "man looks on the outside, and God looks in the heart"... to the inside where it counts. "It is not what goes into a man that corrupts a man, but what comes out" and the pharisees were great looking on the outside but they were "white-washed sepulchers full of dead men's bones" and a sepulcher can be painted any color, it still is rotten to the core. So if liberals could quit focusing on the skin, and consider each person uniquely for his or her own merit - character, conduct and behavior, then we'd be truly evaluated for who we are, not who you or anyone elsethinks we are, based on what you or they heard and chose to believe what someone else said. You yourself are a victim of stereotypical prejudice as you assume the honest answer to your questions before you know the answer - you yourself are prejudging. And just because a selection of persons ever answers a certain way on any question, never gives you the right to "assume" and pass judgement on the rest of the group or any one individual who hasn't yet answered. You may suspect in your own mind, but you should always verify what you believe to actually be truth before you preach it. You poor hypocrite. Conservatives and persons who call themselves Christians who pursue Christ and acknowlege they are wrong when found in opposition to His teachings (the base definition: a follower of Christ) who say as Paul said "neither Jew nor Gentile, bond or free, etc." but all brothers and sisters, never purport otherwise to separate and judge by "unchangeables" (things we don't choose) like race, ethnicity, gender, (notice I didn't mention sexual behavior -it's not preference, either you commit sodomy or you don't), because God alone controls these unchangeables and to oppose Him or find fault with His handiwork is, well, to be blunt, stupid. So, you've proved your racist bias by asking us to make a decision on racist premises! Why should we make decisions based on race without knowledge of real factors? That's called pigeon-holing and entrapment - testimonies of a weak and biased mind. Hope you learn what you think you are trying to preach! Now here's a question for you: what color and gender am I? What's the right anwer? I'll tell you: Don't answer it!!! Because who cares and why does it matter! Do you? Does it? Why? When we get to heaven, not on our skin color or even on our merit but on His, it certainly won't matter either! All skin colors cook the same and feel pain the same in Hell as well, and all equally long - forever! Hope to see you in Heaven (no more squabbling over dermitology!) God Bless!
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