A lesson from Condoleezza Rice

Boston Globe | 11-20-02 | By Derrick Z. Jackson,

[mhking]

Geez - someone people on this thread would rather fight than debate the issues.

Some people would rather cherry-pick posts than to debate rationally.

I'm done dealing with your lies and skewed vision of reality. Let's just suffice it to say that you have some sort of personal problem with Dr. Rice. Whether it's political, ideological, or racial, I don't know, nor care. You have made a determination that you will manufacture evidence to support your fallacies. And you truly are someone worth pitying. I pity you because you'll never grow beyond your pettiness.

Good day, Mr. "Ugly."

[discostu]

You haven't debated an issue in your life.

[Tuco-bad]

The CRA has no impact on the veracity of Miss Rice's story.

Believe what you wish.

[discostu]

You've already admitted that some businesses were still segragated. You "doubt" a drug store would be, but you provide no reason for said doubt. You've already lost this debate but you're too much of a coward to admit it. Eli Wallach should kick your ass, Tuco was a lot of things but he was niether a coward nor a liar, you're both.

[Temple Owl]

This article is a bunch of racist tripe, probably taken totally out of context....as to her remarks.

Actually the article is a good one. The remarks on this post however, have changed a positive story in a pile of racist tripe. Get with it guys. Condi Rice is a beautiful, bright and much respected American. Let's give her our support.

[Tuco-bad]

You've already lost this debate but you're too much of a coward to admit it. Eli Wallach should kick your ass, Tuco was a lot of things but he was niether a coward nor a liar, you're both.

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[Tuco-bad]

Let's just suffice it to say that you have some sort of personal problem with Dr. Rice. Whether it's political, ideological, or racial, I don't know, nor care.

Let's just suffice it to say that you have some sort of personal admiration with Dr. Rice. Whether it's political, ideological, or racial, I don't know, nor care.

[discostu]

Afraid of the topic? Let's remind you:
Were some drug store still defacto (and illegally) segrated in the year of our lord nineteen hundred and sixty five?

Which would therefore make it probably the Miss Rice's story is true and FR's favorite punk Tuco-bad is, once again, full of crap.

[Tuco-bad]

You haven't debated an issue in your life.

I guess I haven't been posting here.

[Tuco-bad]

Which would therefore make it probably the Miss Rice's story is true and FR's favorite punk Tuco-bad is, once again, full of crap.

And perhaps I'm correct.

[rdb3]

I never threatened you. Stop being paranoid.

Shine on you crazy diamond.
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[discostu]

To quote one of my favorite philosophers:
yeah and monkeys will fly out of my butt

You started this off by calling her story a fairy tale claiming that all segregation had been elliminated by the CRA. Since then you've agreed that, though illegal, segregation clearly and demonstrably existed in the post CRA world. Though you "doubt" a drug store would be segregated (and I'm gonna keep throwing that in your face until you explain why you "doubt" that). Clearly at this point Dr Rice's story is withing the realm of possibility and not a "fairy tale". So you are WRONG. Not only are you WRONG but you clearly owe Dr. Rice an apology. Gonna be a man about it?

[discostu]

There's a big difference between posting and debating. While it's true you regularly waste FR bandwidth, even the most open definition of the word "debate" doesn't cover what you do. You lie, you slander, you insist you're right after having been clearly proven wrong, you demand others present facts even after they have, yet you consistly are unwilling to bring forth any fact supporting your position. That's not debate, that never will be debate, the fact that you think it is shows how ignorant you are.

[PBRSTREETGANG]

And perhaps I'm correct.

That would have to be entirely accidental since you've been unable to support nearly everything you've said here.

[CaptIsaacDavis]

None of you have any idea what she stands for! She gets a pass, like Powell did, because she fits a condescending and idealized model of a candidate. She has NEVER publicly discussed her views on a host of issues. Heck, she doesn't even take a Realist approach to foreign policy like true conservatives do. Have you heard her views on foreign policy? She stated at the Nitze School that she wants (not just predicts) a global convergence towards a "common culture" -- she is a globalist at heart.

[Tuco-bad]

it is shows how ignorant you are.

I assure you I am much more educated than you.

I assure you I am much more knowledgeable than you.

[Tuco-bad]

Not only are you WRONG but you clearly owe Dr. Rice an apology.

Why do you defend Rice?

Don't you place any blame on her for 9/11?

[discostu]

You can "assure me" of anything you want. But I've read your posts, I've debated with you. The truth is you hate everything having to do with conservatism and you don't know a damn thing.

Now then BACK TO TOPIC:
Why do you "doubt" that drug stores would be amung the businesses illegally segrated after the CRA of 1964?

Having accepted that businesses were still, illegally, segregated after the CRA of 1964 how can you classify Dr. Rice's story as a "fairy tale"?

[Tuco-bad]

I never threatened you. Stop being paranoid.

I would really like to have a face-to-face conversation with you. I truly would.

That doesn't sound like a threat?

[Tuco-bad]

Having accepted that businesses were still, illegally, segregated after the CRA of 1964 how can you classify Dr. Rice's story as a "fairy tale"?

The implication of the story was that the drug store was legally segregated in 1965.