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TARGET: Tom Tancredo (Warned "never to darken the door of the White House again.")
Roll Call ^ | November 18, 2002 | Josh Kurtz

Posted on 11/18/2002 6:23:24 PM PST by Mark Felton

November 18, 2002

Target: Tom Tancredo

Some Say GOPPrimary Challenge Likely

By Josh Kurtz He represents one of the most conservative districts in the nation. He just trounced his Democratic challenger by 37 points. Yet Rep. Tom Tancredo (R-Colo.) may be one of the most vulnerable incumbents in the 2004 election cycle.

Tancredo, a controversial, outspoken voice for the Republican right who is entering his third term, has angered leading Republicans back home and in the White House.

The House Member's criticisms of President Bush's immigration policy bought him a 40-minute rebuke earlier this year from Bush adviser Karl Rove, who, in the Congressman's own words, warned him "never to darken the door of the White House again." And his decision to renounce his pledge to serve only three terms has infuriated powerful Colorado Republicans, including his political patron, former Sen. Bill Armstrong (R).

"I'll be surprised if he doesn't have a primary [in 2004]," said Floyd Ciruli, an independent Colorado pollster.

Several Republicans, including popular state Treasurer Mike Coffman, who just won a landslide re-election of his own, are considering taking on Tancredo in the '04 primary.

Other potential candidates include state Sen. Jim Dyer (R) and former Arapahoe County Commissioner Steve Ward. "It's a given" that someone will run against the 56-year-old lawmaker, Coffman said. "There are questions about his term-limit pledge. When you have someone like Senator Armstrong, who was his mentor, backing away from him - I think that resonates."

Armstrong was instrumental in getting Tancredo elected in the first place, endorsing him over four strong opponents in a competitive GOP primary to replace retiring Rep. Dan Schaefer (R) in 1998. By Tancredo's reckoning, Armstrong's blessing was worth 3 points at the polls - which just happened to be his margin of victory in the primary.

Even though he may not seek re-election in 2004 - and would consider running for Senate if Sen. Ben Nighthorse Campbell (R) retires - he has chucked the term-limit promise nevertheless.

"The term-limit pledge in and of itself is not the deciding factor if he will run again," said Tancredo spokeswoman Lara Kennedy.

Like all Members who change their minds on term limits, Tancredo has cast his decision as being in the best interests of his district and pet causes. Tancredo wants to preserve his seniority for his suburban district south of Denver and angle for better committee assignments. Plus, he does not want to lose the momentum he has built fighting the government's open immigration policies, Kennedy said. Tancredo is the founder of the House Immigration Reform Caucus.

While plenty of politicians have broken their term-limit pledges before, including Rep. Scott McInnis (R-Colo.), Tancredo's decision is more noteworthy because he once headed Colorado's term-limit organization.

"All too often you have terrific candidates who come to Washington with the best of intentions, but they get too comfortable, and when the time comes, they don't want to go home," lamented Stacie Rumenap, a spokeswoman for U.S.Term Limits.

Whether Tancredo suffers any political damage remains to be seen. So far, the handful of Members who have broken their pledges, including McInnis, have not suffered any consequences at the polls, Rumenap conceded. And U.S.Term Limits is not in the business of recruiting challengers to incumbents who have broken the pledge.

Tancredo has promised to return campaign contributions to donors who are dismayed at his decision to ignore the term-limits pledge. But Armstrong - who did not respond to several messages left at his Denver law office - called the refund offer "hollow," according to The Rocky Mountain News.

Armstrong, meanwhile, has offered some kind words about Coffman.

"Mike Coffman is someone the Republican Party and the people of Colorado will rally around,"he told the News. "There is no doubt in my mind that he will be on the short list for whatever comes along - it could be governor, it could be Senator, it could be Congress."

Coffman, in fact, began running for Congress last year - in the new 7th district, which adjoins Tancredo's. But when the final district lines were drawn, Coffman found himself in Tancredo's 6th district, just a few blocks from the 7th, and chose not to move or run.

Coffman said that while he has not given much thought to the 2004 election yet, he believes that Tancredo will be vulnerable. The three Republicans most frequently mentioned as challengers are all military veterans, while Tancredo is not, and that could make a difference in a district that values military service, political insiders said.

Coffman, a 47-year-old Marine Corps vet who served in Operation Desert Storm, said Tancredo's military deferments during the Vietnam War would hurt him as America prepares to attack Iraq, and could be linked to his decision to ignore the term-limit pledge.

"Here's a guy ordering young men off to war and he himself didn't serve," he said. "I think in this conservative district, something like that could resonate."

Certainly, Tancredo's record would contrast with Coffman's, or Dyer's, who is an Air Force veteran, or Ward's, who is a lieutenant colonel in the Marine Corps Reserves and is on active duty in Florida.

Dyer called it "highly unlikely" that he would challenge Tancredo, but said somebody else might, and predicted that the term-limit issue would sting the incumbent.

"I think a number of people that support Tom are not going to support him if he breaks the term-limit pledge,"said Dyer, who was a surrogate for Tancredo at a candidate forum this fall. "We can't say that situational ethics is bad for party A but not for party B."

Ward, a former mayor of suburban Glendale, could not be reached for comment, but is expected to return to Colorado next year. In an interview with the News after completing his one term on the Arapahoe County Commission, Ward made his opinion of politicians who stay in office too long perfectly clear.

"Any politician who can't find the bathrooms in the first week doesn't deserve to be in public office," he said.

It is unclear whether the White House would try to get involved in a primary challenge to Tancredo.

But it is fair to say that Tancredo is not one of the president's favorite people. Earlier this year, the Congressman accused Bush of pandering to Hispanic voters and trying to prop up Mexican President Vicente Fox by offering amnesty to certain undocumented immigrants. That declaration brought an angry 40-minute phone call from Rove, and Bush pointedly failed to introduce Tancredo to the crowd during a political rally in Colorado in September.

With his hard-line views on immigration, Tancredo is no stranger to controversy. In 1999, he gained publicity for reaffirming his support for gun owners' rights just days after the massacre at Columbine High School, which is six blocks from his house.

The Southern Poverty Law Center released a report last summer linking Tancredo to extremist groups, which the Congressman dismissed as "McCarthyism."

And he was embarrassed earlier this year when it was revealed that undocumented workers had been hired to do some construction work on his Littleton home.

But pollster Ciruli said Tancredo's views on immigration are in line with his constituents'.

"Nobody who's going to argue the soft side of immigration is going to beat him in the Republican primary, or even in the general," he said.

After seeing two fairly viable opponents get wiped out by Tancredo in 1998 and 2000, Democrats appear to have abandoned the 6th district - leaving Republicans there to decide whether they want him to remain in office.


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To: Mark Felton
Modern Republicans must be wary that the party of Reagan continues to truly hold the values of Reagan.

Whenever I read comments like yours, I am reminded what "Dandy" Don Meredith so eloquently said about those who reminisced about the glory days of the NFL:

"The NFL isn't what it used to be, and it never was"

601 posted on 11/19/2002 5:37:12 AM PST by Tennessean4Bush
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To: Mark Felton
warned him "never to darken the door of the White House again."

Maybe they think Italians are too dark. "Darken" seems kind of a racist thing to say.

602 posted on 11/19/2002 5:45:05 AM PST by FITZ
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To: RLK
I would hardly call flying combat aircraft - which the F-102 Delta Dagger is - being part of a "flying country club" by any stretch of the imagination.

603 posted on 11/19/2002 5:47:28 AM PST by hchutch
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To: Deb
There were so many loopholes in the language of that 245(i) extension, that absolutely every illegal qualified to apply to stay and had the right to remain in the USA until they received the INS's decision.

If 10 to 15 million illegals apply under a 245(i) extension, it would take the INS 10 years or more to render all of those decisions.

Guess what, if they're here 10 years awaiting an INS decision, they'll never be sent home.

Bush's 245(i) extension was a sham AMNESTY scheme, nothing more.

604 posted on 11/19/2002 5:47:33 AM PST by 4Freedom
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To: Mark Felton
The Republican Party continues to purge conservative activists. Most of the 1994 "Revolutionaries" have been expelled.

It was noted that all the new Republicans elected were "moderates " hand picked

They do not want us they want our votes

How much money do you suppose a pac formed for Tancredo can get from folks like us that take the borders seriously ??

605 posted on 11/19/2002 5:51:30 AM PST by RnMomof7
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To: lavaroise
At the bottom a war has been started on the border because of the Mexican government and mislead migrants and anarchists, and we have to end it. Bush must address this war.

It is because of the Mexican government. For one sending out that many of your citizens does not lead to stability and to a good economy. Driving out your would-be middle class does not lead to the growth of a middle class which is what Mexico needs. Mexico needs to change, we can't just take in 90% of it's citizens because the whiter elites don't want to allow a middle class society in that country. We need Mexico to become a more stable country, not less and when you look at it's exploding crime rate, it's obvious it's quickly becoming less stable.

606 posted on 11/19/2002 5:51:49 AM PST by FITZ
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To: dalebert
Sorry, Telling him "not to darken White House door again" is not exactly the Bush style of doing things and I would question this statement.

I would guess it is just his style..do you know him personally?

607 posted on 11/19/2002 5:52:30 AM PST by RnMomof7
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To: deport
"Just curious...what then did electorate focus on in the election just passed?"</>

Dick Gephardt's promise of amnesty for all illegal aliens, if they gave the Democraps a majority in congress, maybe?

608 posted on 11/19/2002 5:54:23 AM PST by 4Freedom
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To: madfly
Thanks for the flag..nothing surprises me anymore..I am re-registering as an independant
609 posted on 11/19/2002 5:54:40 AM PST by RnMomof7
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To: madfly; HalfIrish; DoughtyOne; SLB; Sawdring; Scholastic; belmont_mark; Paul Ross; Alamo-Girl; ...
The House Member's criticisms of President Bush's immigration policy bought him a 40-minute rebuke earlier this year from Bush adviser Karl Rove, who, in the Congressman's own words, warned him "never to darken the door of the White House again."

LOL! You gotta love it. Anyone Republican who pisses off mushy moderate Karl Rove, architect of the total GOP electoral disaster and thus the sweeping RAT victory in California this past election is my best friend. Besides, Tom Tancredo has scored as the top conservative in the House of Representatives on two consecutive occasions. The man is a conservative hero par excellence his sniping at Bush's pro-illegal immigration policy only serves to increase his stature in my eyes. He was overwhelming re-elected in his district, but hey all the CINOs (Conservatives in Name Only) on FR are going to say he's transformed himself into Senator Bob Smith--too loyal to conservative principles and not loyal enough to El Presidente who has done a great job on several issues, but has pushed an America-last policy on immigration.
610 posted on 11/19/2002 5:55:28 AM PST by rightwing2
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To: rightwing2
Note to Rove and Bush -- "You would do well to listen to Tom, he reflects what over 70% of American citizens want - a stop to illegal aliens, protect our borders, and limit legal immigration"!!
611 posted on 11/19/2002 6:04:38 AM PST by Elkiejg
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To: healey22
Cheerleader Trent Lott recently said on the OReilly Radio show that he would support troops on the border. Now, we have to make him back that statement up with some action.

Interesting he hasn't said much since. No doubt he meant it but I agree we have to hold his feet to the fire just in case he forgets.

612 posted on 11/19/2002 6:08:53 AM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: AFPhys
Jeb Bush and George Pataki both support giving away around $100 billion dollars worth of U.S. Taxpayer owned property and infrastructure in Puerto Rico to the ungrateful residents of the island.

They both helped cover-up the fire bombing of a Navy convoy by 4 ski-masked, Puerto Rican, terrorists on the island of Vieques on 8/10/01.

Bush promised to pursue his 245(i) extension after the election.

Throw in the Cuban vote and you have your totals.

I suppose you believe that all of those U.S. Taxpayer's dollars were a real small price to pay in order to get those 3 RINOs elected?

613 posted on 11/19/2002 6:15:26 AM PST by 4Freedom
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To: Luis Gonzalez
I can do it in two languages, and in metric as well as this bullshit, non-sense system based on some king's foot, and stones. Can you?

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You think you can, but you can't. You can't seem to make calculations taking into account the value of money and devaluation of wages after double digit inflation in any language or any numbering system, That is what counts.

To put it bluntly, you don't have the brains God gave a chicken. You don't think other people do either. You are wrong. I have enough arrogant fools to deal with on a daily basis. I don't need more of them.

614 posted on 11/19/2002 6:17:07 AM PST by RLK
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To: RnMomof7
I would guess it is just his style..do you know him personally?

I join in saying it does not sound at all like something President Bush would say or anyone on his staff, so I question the accuracy of this tale.

As to knowing him personally, can you please tell us on what you base your conclusion that it IS just his style? I am basing mine on observation.

615 posted on 11/19/2002 6:24:07 AM PST by cyncooper
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To: hchutch
I would hardly call flying combat aircraft - which the F-102 Delta Dagger is - being part of a "flying country club" by any stretch of the imagination.

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If you are not flying them in combat and are fairly certain you never will, it's a flying country club for the well-connected. You attempt to overdramatize it falls flat. The plane was obsolete at the time and there was no way the unit could function anywhere but in Texas for kids who wanted to get their ticket punched as having been in the military.

616 posted on 11/19/2002 6:26:44 AM PST by RLK
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To: cyncooper
Well truth is none of us know what he would or would not say do we?
617 posted on 11/19/2002 6:31:44 AM PST by RnMomof7
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To: rightwing2; Luis Gonzalez; PRND21; Poohbah; Miss Marple; Howlin; JohnHuang2; ...
You might want to look up what happened to Bob Smith.

Not only did he lose the primary, his petulant supporters didn't succeed in sabotaging Sununu, either.

The President is, in my opinion, going for the best possible and fairest possible course of reform that we have - and I'll trust him any time.

And yes, there are problems - I'm aware of a particular screw-up on the part of the folks who issue visas. Only I do not think the likes of Tom Tancredo and Michelle Malkin will be willing to look at it because THAT case is one that, in my opinion, SUPPORTS the notion of measures that would be short of deportation - which some here would decry as an amnesty.

The case involved a Colombian family who had received a warning that a guerilla group was in the area and conducting "recruitment drives" - actually kidnapping children from their high schools and forcing them to serve in their military force. The oldest son in the family was in a high school that led to a military career in Colombia, and was near the top of his class. It would be rational to assume that such a recruiting drive would have him as a target.

The father, a factory manager with a degree in electircal engineering, first applied for asylum from the USA. Denied - we only grant that to Cubans (Cuban refugees get that for darn good reasons, too). He went for a permanent residency visa - and would have had to wait for over a year. Problem was, by that time, his son gets kidnapped by that guerilla movement.

So, they came here on tourist visas and overstayed them. Fortunately, they were, from what I understand, able to go legit via 245(i) or some other provision along those lines last year. I say that because given their situation, by now, both sons are old enough to be kidnapped by any of the guerilla movements in Colombia.

And for that, I blame the idiots who didn't stop and think, "Wait a second, this might warrant expedited action on our part." No, some mindless drone, little different from the ones who allowed Mohammed Atta and John Lee Malvo to stay, didn't take the time to figure that out. And if it happened once, it's probably happened other times, and created similar situations - some of which had much worse endings than the one I related.

That is also unacceptable, and as an American I demand it be fixed and these mistakes corrected to the greatest extent possible. People who are applying for asylum or for permanent residency deserve better than to be forced into a choice between saving their son from being forced to serve in a guerilla movement and obeying our laws.

I believe that the President is offering as good an approach as can be expected for fixing those mistakes and securing the borders against future illegal immigration, and I will support him to the greatest extent possible - and if that means working to end Tom Tancredo's political career, I will do that.

Those who are saying that the illegal immigrants we are letting in are all of the ilk of Atta, Malvo, or welfare sponges are grossly mistaken. I am aware of one such circumstance, and I'd be willing to bet that there are similar cases to the one I mentioned - caused by a malfeasance similar to the ones that a lot of people are complaining about here, and a malfeasance that is no less wrong.
618 posted on 11/19/2002 6:39:35 AM PST by hchutch
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To: RLK
Even in routine operations, there is a high level of risk.
Much higher than flying in some club. Sorry, but you are dead wrong to characterize it the way you did.

Did your guy (Keyes) serve at all?
619 posted on 11/19/2002 6:42:49 AM PST by hchutch
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To: rightwing2
Apparently Representative Tancredo is being bolstered by the conservatives who have left liberal CA and relocated to CO. His was the most smashing victory of any House Republican in CO, was it not? And maybe even of the whole West? I would imagine that Mr. Rove would want us to forget liberal CA and remember the other Republican victories on Nov. 5 -- from HA to ME, from AK to FL, right?
620 posted on 11/19/2002 6:44:29 AM PST by Theodore R.
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