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1 posted on 11/15/2002 4:25:22 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest
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She then added the following statement: "When people call me a liberal, I call myself a conservative Catholic."

If she's a Catholic, she now needs to go to confession. Quick.

2 posted on 11/15/2002 4:27:01 AM PST by BlessedBeGod
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I call myself a conservative Catholic.

Riddle: If you call the tail a leg, how many legs does a dog have?

Answer: Four. Calling a tail a leg doesn't make it so.

4 posted on 11/15/2002 4:33:54 AM PST by IronJack
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"I'm a Conservative Catholic"

Yeah...and I'm the Easter Bunny. Who wants to be Spiderman?
5 posted on 11/15/2002 4:37:41 AM PST by Constitutional Patriot
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Actually, this is a classic example of the cognitive dissonance that marks the Democrats, their perpetual state of denial. I move that we refer to Ms. Pelosi as "Disso-Nancy."
6 posted on 11/15/2002 4:37:50 AM PST by IronJack
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7 posted on 11/15/2002 4:38:12 AM PST by ChadGore
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No way is she a conservative Catholic.

She is for abortion, against a ban on partial birth abortion. No practicing Catholic would condone infanticide

8 posted on 11/15/2002 4:39:13 AM PST by mware
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"It is hard to imagine an authentic conservative Catholic supporting unrestricted abortion, including partial birth abortion, as does Pelosi.

Pelosi failed to vote to ban PBA even when an exception was included for the life of the mother. I think it is thus fair to categorize her as a pro-abortion extremist. Given that record, to go on national TV and call herself a conservative Catholic seems the height of gall and duplicity."


And naturally Matt Lauer didn't guffaw, or at least challenge her absurd claim. Another example of the elite media ignoring the Emperess with no clothes. Surprise, surprise < /not>
9 posted on 11/15/2002 4:39:53 AM PST by demkicker
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"Safety and Soundness." HAH! The party of bank examiners. "Lame" is an understatement.
10 posted on 11/15/2002 4:41:02 AM PST by rmgatto
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In the off chance that the Archbishop of the San Francisco Diocese heard her comment, she may actually face some cannonical and then political problems. She raised the issue of her so-called Catholicism - it is now the obligation of the Archbishop to refute publicly the public declaration of a public person who maintains such a demonstrably false fiction. The Archbishop will lose credibility if he does not act - failure to act, to right wrongs about which it is aware has gotten the Catholic Church into the mess it is right now - witness the molestation cases presently wending their way thoughout the land in various judicial forums. The public rebuke of her for her positions and her statement should not redound well to her politically.
13 posted on 11/15/2002 4:44:29 AM PST by MarkT
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What a disgusting liar. This would be akin to me calling myself a leftist environmentalist Baptist. WHAT THE HELL?!?!?
17 posted on 11/15/2002 4:47:13 AM PST by Skywalk
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We're conservative nuns!!!!!

21 posted on 11/15/2002 4:49:20 AM PST by Dick Vomer
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I hate to break it to you Catholics out there, but the Lavender Mafia has infiltrated your church so thoroughly that Pelosi's statement may not be as crazy as it sounds. :-(
23 posted on 11/15/2002 4:50:43 AM PST by cgbg
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"Safety and Soundness," ... Instant nominee for the "Lamest Political Slogan of the Decade."

And they laughed at Compassionate Conservative.

25 posted on 11/15/2002 4:51:30 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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Is there a MR. Polass anywhere?
29 posted on 11/15/2002 4:53:42 AM PST by smiley
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"Safety and Soundness" should not be under-rated as a political slogan !

It appears to me, an increasing number of woman voters are endorsing- no - make that demanding socialism as a way of life : the celebrated " Nanny State " .

The selection of folks like Pelosi is a signal from the Democrats that they will go along with " Nanny-ism " ; and you can bet your bottom dollar they will buttress that signal by pushing for a female presidential candidate !

34 posted on 11/15/2002 4:57:52 AM PST by genefromjersey
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She's as Catholic as Osama.

To be a Catholic, one must assent to the teachings of the Church. A Catholic may dissent in ignorance, but once presented with the Church's teaching on a particular issue a Catholic must assent to the teaching in obedience to Church authority. Failure to assent to Church teaching signifies the lack of the theological virtue of faith and thereby represents a de facto rejection of Christ and His Church. Heresy is defined as the obstinate, post-baptismal refusal to obey Church teaching. From the Catechism:

Abortion

2270 Human life must be respected and protected absolutely from the moment of conception. From the first moment of his existence, a human being must be recognized as having the rights of a person -- among which is the inviolable right of every innocent being to life.(71)

Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, and before you were born I consecrated you. (72)

My frame was not hidden from you, when I was being made in secret, intricately wrought in the depths of the earth .(73)

2271 Since the first century the Church has affirmed the moral evil of every procured abortion. This teaching has not changed and remains unchangeable. Direct abortion, that is to say, abortion willed either as an end or a means, is gravely contrary to the moral law:

You shall not kill the embryo by abortion and shall not cause the newborn to perish .(74)

God, the Lord of life, has entrusted to men the noble mission of safeguarding life, and men must carry it out in a manner worthy of themselves. Life must be protected with the utmost care from the moment of conception: abortion and infanticide are abominable crimes.(75)

2272 Formal co-operation in an abortion constitutes a grave offence. The Church attaches the canonical penalty of excommunication to this crime against human life. 'A person who procures a completed abortion incurs excommunication latae sententiae' (76) 'by the very commission of the offence', (77) and subject to the conditions provided by Canon Law . (78) The Church does not thereby intend to restrict the scope of mercy. Rather, she makes clear the gravity of the crime committed, the irreparable harm done to the innocent who is put to death, as well as to the parents and the whole of society.

2273 The inalienable right to life of every innocent human individual is a constitutive element of a civil society and its legislation:

'The inalienable rights of the person must be recognized and respected by civil society and the political authority. These human rights depend neither on single individuals nor on parents; nor do they represent a concession made by society and the state; they belong to human nature and are inherent in the person by virtue of the creative act from which the person took his origin. Among such fundamental rights one should mention in this regard every human being's right to life and physical integrity from the moment of conception until death.'(79)

'The moment a positive law deprives a category of human beings of the protection which civil legislation ought to accord them, the state is denying the equality of all before the law. When the state does not place its power at the service of the rights of each citizen, and in particular of the more vulnerable, the very foundations of a state based on law are undermined. . . As a consequence of the respect and protection which must be ensured for the unborn child from the moment of conception, the law must provide appropriate penal sanctions for every deliberate violation of the child's rights.' (80)

2274 Since it must be treated from conception as a person, the embryo must be defended in its integrity, cared for, and healed, as far as possible, like any other human being.

Prenatal diagnosis is morally licit, 'if it respects the life and integrity of the embryo and the human foetus and is directed toward its safeguarding or healing as an individual... It is gravely opposed to the moral law when this is done with the thought of possibly inducing an abortion, depending upon the results: a diagnosis must not be the equivalent of a death sentence.' (81)

2275 'One must hold as licit procedures carried out on the human embryo which respect the life and integrity of the embryo and do not involve disproportionate risks for it, but are directed toward its healing, the improvement of its condition of health, or its individual survival.' (82)

'It is immoral to produce human embryos intended for exploitation as disposable biological material.' (83)

'Certain attempts to influence chromosomic or genetic inheritance are not therapeutic but are aimed at producing human beings selected according to sex or other predetermined qualities. Such manipulations are contrary to the personal dignity of the human being and his integrity and identity' (84) which are unique and unrepeatable.

 
35 posted on 11/15/2002 4:58:33 AM PST by Aquinasfan
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This is all part of the President Jeb Bartlett ploy. On West Wing, the liberals favorite (non-real) President will sometimes make a big show out of participating in the RITUALS of the Catholic Church. They recently showed some scenes of a church choir, with "President" Bartlett in attendance, singing at High Mass and "President" Bartlett carefully crossing himself. That is what passes muster for being religious in liberal-land.

I'm sure Pelosi attends church (for PR reasons) and also goes thru the rituals as "President" Bartlett does but does it really mean anything except that it allows Pelosi to make the ridiculous claim that she is a "conservative Catholic?"

36 posted on 11/15/2002 4:59:14 AM PST by PJ-Comix
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"Safety and Soundness," apparently some combination of national security and economic progress. Instant nominee for the "Lamest Political Slogan of the Decade."

It will rank right down there with WIN---"Whip Inflation Now" back in the Disco Era.

39 posted on 11/15/2002 5:00:55 AM PST by PJ-Comix
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CONSERVATIVE CATHOLIC ... LOL...

I'm a conservative Catholic, Nancy... your beliefs violate nearly every part of my religion, from published reports.

You are NOT a conservative, and you may not even be a Catholic when your bishop discovers this claim.
46 posted on 11/15/2002 5:06:21 AM PST by AFPhys
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Nazi(National Socialist)Pelosi is a propagandist.
47 posted on 11/15/2002 5:06:48 AM PST by PGalt
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