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Putin tells reporter to 'get circumcised'
ABC News ^ | 11/12/02 | staff

Posted on 11/12/2002 8:50:00 AM PST by ppaul

Russia's media expressed has shock over a remark by Russian President Vladimir Putin at the Russia-EU summit in which he urged a Western reporter asking about the war in Chechnya to come to Moscow and "get circumcised".

Mr Putin's comments, made at a closing press conference of the Russia-EU summit in Brussels, were played by TVS television station and republished by several major Moscow newspapers and Internet sites.

The Kommersant business daily reports Mr Putin was asked a Danish reporter why Russia was using mine warfare in the separatist North Caucasus republic and exterminating Chechen civilians.

Reports say Mr Putin became infuriated by the question and launched an unprecedented defence of the three-year Chechen war that at one stage went off on a tangent.

"You, if I am not mistaken, represent an ally [of the US war on terror] and are therefore in danger," Mr Putin told the reporter, according to a transcript that appeared in the Vremya Novostei daily.

"They [the Chechens] talk about killing non-Muslims and if you are a Christian, you are in danger. And even if you are an atheist, you are in danger," Mr Putin is quoting as saying.

"If you decide to become a Muslim - even then you are not safe, because traditional Islam contradicts the conditions and goals that they [the Chechens rebels] set.

"But if you are prepared to become the most radical Islamist and prepared to get circumcised - I invite you to Moscow.

"We have specialists that deal with this problem. I suggest that you do such an operation that nothing grows out of you again," Mr Putin reportedly said.

Mr Putin is known for his tough talk that at times becomes interlaced with slang used by criminals and the military.

He launched the war in the predominantly Muslim Chechen republic in October 1999 by threatening to "waste [the Chechens] while they sit in their outhouses".

Russian media say a Kremlin aide explained to reporters after the Brussels press conference that Mr Putin was tired during the summit after a hectic working schedule.

The wide coverage given to Mr Putin's remarks appears unusual for a Russian media that has grown to carefully toe the Kremlin line in recent months.

Advice dismissed

Meanwhile, Mr Putin has brushed aside European advice on a peaceful solution to the Chechen conflict, saying it had to be solved by the Russian and Chechen people alone.

"Of course we listen to advice from our colleagues in Europe," Mr Putin told a news conference in Oslo after talks with German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder, who said he hoped for a peaceful, political solution in Chechnya.

But he added: "It is an internal Russian problem to be solved between the Chechen people and the Russian federation."

Russia has scrapped plans for a partial military pullout from the southerly province since Chechen separatists took a Moscow theatre hostage last month.

The siege ended with the deaths of 128 hostages and 41 rebels.

"We don't want to turn up our noses and say that others' opinions are irrelevant," Mr Putin said.

But he added: "The problem is so complicated that no one can give really good advice."

Mr Putin said Europe had some good examples of conflict resolution but that other conflicts had rumbled on unsolved in other parts of Europe for hundreds of years.

Mr Putin has shown no sign of reining in the Russian military in Chechnya, where thousands of people have died in almost a decade of fighting.

Mr Putin has said a new constitution and elections offer the best prospects of a swift resolution.

"The political process on Chechnya must continue," Mr Schroeder said.

Mr Putin and Mr Schroeder met in Oslo because Mr Putin cancelled a planned visit to Germany last month during the theatre siege. Both men were, by coincidence, on visits to the Nordic nation.

Mr Schroeder and Mr Putin also said a UN resolution seeking to disarm Iraq offered a chance of peace.

Shortly afterwards, Iraq's parliament voted to reject the resolution while leaving the final decision to President Saddam Hussein.

Mr Putin said he hoped Arab countries would bring pressure on Iraq to comply.

Mr Putin said Moscow was keeping up contacts with Baghdad but that only Saddam knew what Iraq would finally decide.

Mr Schroeder reiterated on Monday that Germany would not take part in any US-led attacks on Iraq if Saddam failed to comply fully with the resolution.

Mr Schroeder won popularity before his re-election in September by ruling out sending troops.



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To: ppaul
I'd give the proverbial house and lot to see Bush or Rumsfeld do this.
341 posted on 11/12/2002 5:07:34 PM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity
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To: ppaul
Q: How do you circumcise a liberal?

A: You kick his intern in the mouth.

342 posted on 11/12/2002 5:08:40 PM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity
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To: snippy_about_it
They believe it was militant, jihadist Muslims, just like everyone else.
343 posted on 11/12/2002 5:28:20 PM PST by stuartcr
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To: ppaul

I was very angry...that's all...

344 posted on 11/12/2002 5:41:23 PM PST by lsee
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To: Terriergal
I agree.
345 posted on 11/12/2002 5:52:07 PM PST by Lady Heron
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To: stuartcr
good for them, the muslim h1b workers in my building think it was the Jews. Glad to see your muslims have some sense.
346 posted on 11/12/2002 5:59:05 PM PST by snippy_about_it
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To: snippy_about_it; Terriergal; ppaul
Headline from CBSNEWS

Cutting Remarks From Putin



347 posted on 11/12/2002 6:02:09 PM PST by swarthyguy
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To: swarthyguy



lol

and I'm snippy about it!
348 posted on 11/12/2002 6:10:38 PM PST by snippy_about_it
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To: EverOnward
It was even used by physicians in Europe and the United States between roughly 1850 and 1950.

Cite that please. BTW, I'm an American from a long line of Americans of European descent and based on my knowledge and experience, your information is blatantly false.

Oh, do not be so hard on him. Physicians in Europe happen to remove almost any organ, especially when they think it is cancerous. Probably it was what he was referring to. Circumcision is a small thing, they are able to remove the rest as well!

349 posted on 11/12/2002 6:40:17 PM PST by A. Pole
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To: Destro
Snip.
350 posted on 11/12/2002 6:55:41 PM PST by swarthyguy
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To: ppaul
"Get circumsized"! ROTFLMAO!
351 posted on 11/12/2002 7:05:05 PM PST by BnBlFlag
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To: Delbert
"Does Helen Thomas have a penis?"

That would explain a lot.
352 posted on 11/12/2002 7:10:40 PM PST by keats5
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To: ppaul
Mr . Putin seems to have his moments . Taking into context I'm going to bump this .

" We have specialist that deal with this problem . I suggest that you do such an operation that nothing grows out of you again " .

I hope he did say it . Mr. Putin is known for his tough talk that at times becomes interlaced with slang used by crimminals and the military .

That last line speaks upon it's own ___________ Fill in the blank .

353 posted on 11/12/2002 7:14:14 PM PST by Ben Bolt
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To: tomahawk
"Proud to be a circumcised male."

Hence your screen name?
354 posted on 11/12/2002 7:18:20 PM PST by keats5
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To: dorben
notice the link, into a single category, of "criminals and the military."
355 posted on 11/12/2002 7:19:41 PM PST by Vinomori
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To: stuartcr
Can you say that without the squeek in the octaves ? If not refer them to the site and let them speak for themselves .

Everyone has feelings .. What feeling gives you the right to steal FReespeech from these FRiends ?

356 posted on 11/12/2002 7:30:50 PM PST by Ben Bolt
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To: Vinomori
Dead giveaway .. So to speak .
357 posted on 11/12/2002 7:31:57 PM PST by Ben Bolt
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To: stuartcr
If there were no religions, then at least when a person did something evil, there would be no excuse other than the person is evil.

Oh, come on. There surely would be lots of excuses like: my race, my poverty, my mental instability, my sexual orientation, my Mommy/Daddy abandoned me, my Mommmy/Daddy/neighbour/funny uncle abused me, my Mommy/Dadddy/funny uncle didn't pay enough attention to me, my parents didn't understand me, my spouse/funny uncle doesn't understand me, my dog doesn't appreciate me... the list goes on and on.

358 posted on 11/12/2002 8:15:55 PM PST by wonders
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To: stuartcr
A single circle has 360 degrees . Do with it as you please . Lurking for the rest of the thread . In closing ; have you ever come up for aire ?

Perhaps para ~ sailing ?

359 posted on 11/12/2002 8:19:46 PM PST by Ben Bolt
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To: A. Pole
In Russia (and in Europe) main circumcised group are Muslims. Secular circumcision is something found only in America. Putin was speaking from Russian/European perspective.

Well, that answers my burning question: Is Pooty-Poot circumcized?

360 posted on 11/12/2002 10:03:08 PM PST by PoisedWoman
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