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WOODSTOCK IS FINALLY OVER
John Guthmiller

Posted on 11/11/2002 10:13:34 AM PST by John Lenin

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To: John Lenin
Osbournes at a wrap party

A typo surely? :-)

61 posted on 11/11/2002 1:51:29 PM PST by Flashman_at_the_charge
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To: Flashman_at_the_charge
A "wrap party" is the gala celebration held by the cast and crew of a movie or television show when shooting finishes. It is also the all-out bash held by the roadies and band when a concert tour winds up. Wrap parties are notorious for their ... indulgences.

I think the author addresses much of the "gloating" concern with this reference. He sees the Republicans as celebrating a bit prematurely, but he sees the change as a natural evolution, a maturing that is long overdue.

62 posted on 11/11/2002 3:42:28 PM PST by IronJack
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To: Seeking the truth
Is that you, IJ?

Naw. I've got glasses.

63 posted on 11/11/2002 3:44:57 PM PST by IronJack
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To: oyez
Nice find, and yes, that was exactly what I was talking about. Easy Rider is a painfully funny movie to watch these days - self-aggrandizing Noble Youth meet the Deranged Rednecks. That little cliche is bedrock belief for many on the left to this day.

It is the same sort of self-absorption that led Janet Joplin to gurgle "freedom's just another word for nuthin' left to lose." She hadn't lost hers yet when she sang that, or she would have known better.

64 posted on 11/11/2002 3:54:47 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Billthedrill
I think the Woodstock event has a lot to do with the homeless and vagrant boom too. Did dropping out from society become less shameful and almost cool in a way?

At WS, most of the attendees showed up with no intent of buying in or paying their way --it was a big gate crash. Very big. Somewhere on the web there must be a webpage telling the story from the Woodstock Anniversary show where the young MBA entrepenuers who organised WS could hardly pay the acts because the gate was trashed. The acts demanded cash when they saw the gates and fences overun. But that still left the PA people and others with no payment. The WS Co declared bankruptcy. The two guys worked for years and gradually paid back at great personal sacrifice the 250ooo (1970's dollars) debt of their company. Honorable effort, and it shows up their true colors. Meanwhile, the lestist idea of exploiting others and free-for-all anarchy has no finer real-life demonstration.

65 posted on 11/11/2002 4:16:02 PM PST by rocknotsand
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To: IronJack
Thank you for enlightening me.
66 posted on 11/11/2002 4:16:06 PM PST by Flashman_at_the_charge
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To: bassmaner
** yawn **
67 posted on 11/11/2002 4:39:58 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Flashman_at_the_charge
Thank you for enlightening me.

Didn't mean to be patronizing. Sorry if it came off that way.

68 posted on 11/11/2002 4:56:11 PM PST by IronJack
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To: lds23
More like say,26 years.
69 posted on 11/11/2002 4:57:28 PM PST by freedomtrail
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To: John Lenin
ROFL!

And with your "handle" you could go into [what's left of] that group under-cover. But now it doesn't matter.

Alas, time takes care of everything.

70 posted on 11/11/2002 4:59:32 PM PST by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: Scott from the Left Coast
I always choose handles to rub it in on the pinkos. lol
71 posted on 11/11/2002 5:10:42 PM PST by John Lenin
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To: IronJack
I really wasn’t being flippant in my reply. I was just saying thank you for pointing out what a “wrap party” was. At first I though maybe he meant Rap and then I was thinking maybe it’s insider term for a toga party.

Regards,
Flashy

72 posted on 11/11/2002 5:22:43 PM PST by Flashman_at_the_charge
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To: Flashman_at_the_charge
dirtbag hippies bump
73 posted on 11/11/2002 5:28:33 PM PST by John Lenin
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To: Billthedrill
A lot of people forgot that Wyatt and Billy wern't exactly altar boys as they sold out with the dope deal at the begining of the movie. If they had made their little fortune legitimate their point might be more relative. The two passed over their chance at redemtion with tribe in the desert, thus they "blew it".
74 posted on 11/11/2002 6:28:59 PM PST by oyez
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To: John Lenin
Don't lose sight of the fact that the media and universities remain powerful bastions of support for the Woodstock mindset. Talk radio and the internet might diminish the impact of television and the print media, but the leftist monopoly on America's campuses is quite another matter. I can't think of one campus in California where former high school students don't speak of hesitancy and, yea verily, even fear in expressing a conservative viewpoint. On this topic, David Horowitz is absolutely on target
75 posted on 11/11/2002 6:47:45 PM PST by gabby hayes
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To: gabby hayes
Can't stop youth rebellion. I laugh at the adults who still think it's the 60's. They are the true idiots.
76 posted on 11/11/2002 7:02:47 PM PST by John Lenin
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To: jwalsh07
sorry for my generational response, but my impression of Woodstock is that the attendees created or participated in a "cultural revolution" which jeopardized our nation's ability to innovate, create, and build.

If I'm wrong, are the producers and editors of the many Woodstock / 60's era documentaries wrong?
77 posted on 11/11/2002 8:27:34 PM PST by bonesmccoy
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To: John Lenin
I miss parts of it,I guess.That freedom to hit the road and sense of wonder and adventure that life seemed to be back then.I sure liked the music alot better than the tripe out there today.
Much of the old hippie movement was ponderous and very exclusive.They rightly rebelled against the norms of middle class conformity but only created another type of myopic thinking and cultural mores.I have some wonderful memories of those days but even then I knew it was rife with hypocrisy and mindless self indulgence.
BTW,I was not at Woodstock but I WAS at Monterey Pop in 1967.Now THAT was a festival for ya!
Riverman
78 posted on 11/11/2002 9:07:37 PM PST by Riverman94610
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To: Motherbear
I grew up then and it was not some Leave It to Beaver world of sweetness and benevolence.Very little intellectual stimulation.Lots of cruel teachers and mean spirited bullies.Most whites thought nothing of calling blacks"niggers".Almost everyone drank or smoked with little regard for their health.School did teach us the basic skills but did not teach us a love for learning.
Yes,we had some wonderful times too.Most families were intact and I recall never feeling like life was hopeless or I didn't have a future.Never thought about child molesters or carjackers and our summer vacations at Lake Tahoe made the grueling routine of the school year worth it all.
Riverman
79 posted on 11/11/2002 9:18:11 PM PST by Riverman94610
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To: John Lenin
Thank God! It is time for everybody to get the he$$ off the bus and stay off!
80 posted on 11/11/2002 9:35:37 PM PST by wingnuts'nbolts
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