Clinton Makes Entrance By Trash Dumpsters (Arkansas after FReep Report)

November 3, 2002 | Arkansas Hog Wild FReepers

[sweetliberty]

We have just returned to Budge's house to do the FReep report because there is a lot of information to report.

In attendance were Budge, Travelgirl, The Battman, parsifal, Don Frivoinai, sweetliberty, and another FReeper who, for reasons you will come to understand shortly, needs to remain anonymous until after the election.

We arrived at Budge's around noon to get everything set up for the maiden FReep of the Arkansas Hog Wild FReepers and the FReepmobile. We got to the site around quarter after 1 and finished up some signs and headed over to the convention center to await the arrival of XXX42 and his horde of Rats. There we were joined by several folks from the Hutchinson campaign and there were quite a few folks who came down from Mount Ida. There ended up being about 30 of us on the outside.

During the wait, we were informed of quite a few "questionable" things going on. For starters, there was one young man who is active with Tim Hutchinson's campaign who was threatened with arrest if he didn't leave the premises. He had done nothing to provoke this action other than they knew who he was. One of the FReepers who is a poll watcher was also threatened with arrest when she tried to go inside the convention center. Another young man who is a Hutchinson aide had a ticket to the event and because he had been seen talkiing to the "opposition" he was not allowed in, being told that it was a private event and they could exclude whoever they wanted to. There was also a group of black folks who were with us so this young man passed his ticket to one of the black guys, who removed all his campaign stuff and went in incognito, laughing saying that they'd never suspect a black guy. Will give you his report later.

Nobody would tell us what door Clinton would be entering by so we took a chance and hung out on one side of the building where they said the car would drive by. True to form, XXX42 was late by nearly an hour. But here is the great part. We were positioned between 2 entrances. One was a major side entrance. The other was a small, fenced-in service entrance by the garbage dumpsters. Well, guess which one he used. Think....which would be most appropriate. Yep, you guessed it. The snake slithered in through the garbage entrance. And he got a look at our signs. It was a classic moment in FReeperdom.

There was a whopping 500 people or so there for the "event". There were few enough people that there was a Jehovah's Witness convention going on in the building at the same time. When Clinton arrived the Jehovah's Witnesses started leaving. At that time we didn't realize that there was another event going on and Travelgirl and The Battman asked one of the cops on duty why everyone was leaving. He responded, "if Clinton entered a room, what would YOU do?" When the Jehovah's Witnesses left, the parking lot started clearing out.

Anyway, we may have to flesh in this post after we all get home because there is a lot to tell, but there is certain information that it is very important to get out there NOW! Back to our "spy". When he came out, he said they were running it like a church service, and the whole focus was on how the evil Republicans are trying to keep them from voting. They were saying that we have all the poll watchers this election to prevent THEM from voting. Now, here is the clencher. They were told that there would be attorneys posted at every precinct to prevent poll watchers from challenging ANY ballots. Now, mind you, one of our poll watchers has already had massive problems with them at the polls during early voting the past couple of weeks and has been advised to retain an attorney. They have had the sherriff remove her from the polls twice when she had done nothing inappropriate...only challenging ballots for improper or no ID. There is an all out campaign by these people to intimidate the poll watchers and then turn around and accuse us of voter intimidation. This is serious and at least one person has some legitimate fear. I can't really elaborate at this point. The reason we wanted to get this up right away is to get other FReepers on the case to get this publicized and contact appropriate media, political and legal sources to alert them that Republican poll watchers in this county are likely to be facing an organized, all-out Rat attack. Any help that FReepers can offer is needed!! Make phone calls, send letters. Whatever you can do. Post your ideas as well.

[sweetliberty]

I just FReepmailed Agitator and suggested having stop_the_rats as a guest on Radio FR this Thursday. What do y'all think? For those of you that aren't familiar with Radio FR and the Radio FR chatroom there is a link on the FR homepage. There are quite a few FReepers who congregate in the chatroom and listen to Radio FR live on Thursday nights. In fact, that is where I spent all of election night. There was a special live show that night and the chatroom was packed. We had a great time. Anyway, I thought this might be another good way for this story to get out as well as being archived for future reference.

[nicmarlo]

I urge caution in this.....if she's potentially going to be in litigation....we need to make sure that this accessible to anybody discussion gives any ammunition to the Rats. Again, err on the side of caution. She may need to get a lawyer for this potential litigation.

[sweetliberty]

"I urge caution in this.....if she's potentially going to be in litigation....we need to make sure that this accessible to anybody discussion gives any ammunition to the Rats."

Can't imagine how it would give the Rats any ammunition. It might be different if she had done anything illegal, but she didn't.

Dog; parsy; can either of you speak to this? (See post #741).

[nicmarlo]

Not that she did anything illegal, it could help their "strategery."

[sweetliberty]

Just a suggestion. I will leave it up to the wisdom of others what to do with it.

[nicmarlo]

I recommend, perhaps, speak to Congressman Billybob....see what he thinks (he's a lawyer).

Calling Congressman Billybob. Would you mind FReepmailing sweetliberty and discuss this with her, please? Please refer to post numbers 741 and 742. Thank you.

[nicmarlo]

you have FReepmail, sweetliberty! : )

[Congressman Billybob]

I was pinged to offer some reflections on this subject.

1. If there is going to be litigation, it is a wise idea for the poll watcher NOT to talk to the press before she gets a lawyer to advise her.

2. The lawyer will probably advise her to stay away from the press pending the litigation.

3. If and when it would not be a violation of rules 1 and 2, I would like the poll watcher to be a guest with me on "American Breakfast," nationally, though it's real early in the morning, 5 to 9 a.m. Eastern.

On the situation of the poll watcher herself, watchers are accredited to do their job, precinct by precinct, under rules established either statewide or within a county. If that is exactly what she was doing, then those who sought to prevent her from carrying out her assignment were in violation of the Civil Rights Act, Section 1988, et seq. Could be a very interesting case.

The reason for staying away from the press is not that this lady might say something wrong. She sounds very self-possessed. It is that the press might misrepresent her words, and then on the stand the attorney for the other side will waive a copy of a misquote and demand, "Isn't it true, Ms. BLANK, that on 10 November you told a reporter from the L.A. Times, that all Democrats eat babies for breakfast?" In preparing to go to court in a situation where it will be testimony against testimony, caution is the order of the day not to give the attorneys for the other side any lever, even a false one, to use for counterattack.

Congressman Billybob

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[tamikamaria]

Thanks for the update, sweetliberty. STR, I cannot describe my admiration for what you did. Thank you for standing up to the Rats and standing up for what is right. You have GUTS, my dear!

[sweetliberty]

Thank you very much for your input. There is no current litigation pending, but she is concerned that they might try it. Is there any way to determine a safe timeframe/distance from the election after which she might feel it is okay to speak out? It seems that they have gotten their way here and I would guess they will move on to richer fields of litigation, but maybe that's just me.

[TheLion]

That really is the ultimate plan by Democrats you know....making it illegal for Republicans to prevent them from committing vote fraud. They will, if we don't stop them.

[sweetliberty]

They really do seem to depend on making the absurd so commonplace that the rest of us throw up our hands in resignation.

[nicmarlo]

That really is the ultimate plan by Democrats you know....making it illegal for Republicans to prevent them from committing vote fraud. They will, if we don't stop them. Yes, and as sweetliberty pointed out, to frustrate us to the point of giving up.

[F.J. Mitchell]

The best way to stop the Demoncraps scheme for continued power through deception, deciet and intimidation, is to get law abiding, law intepreting, Constitution respecting, freedom loving honorable judges, confirmed to as many positions as possible, to replace those liberal-demoncrap appointed judges, who make it impossible to prosecute scoff law demoncraps, by redefining or neutralizing the laws they are caught violating.

Bush and the Republican Congress was empowered by we the citizens to begin filling empty seats with qualified and reputable judges and confirming them. Let the perge of corrupt Courts begin!

[nicmarlo]

Let the perge of corrupt Courts begin!>

Agreed.

[Ragtime Cowgirl]

We only have two years to get the word out and organized!

Thanks for your efforts, Budge. Getting the word out is the best way to fight the Dem. fraud...shine the light in the darkness...and motivate honest Americans to get out the vote. As backhoe said, he's never heard so many Americans speaking out about voter fraud as he did this year. We're onto 'em. (^:

[F.J. Mitchell]

THanks for not making an issue of my spelling-I just noticed that should have been purge.

BTTT!

[EternalVigilance]

I am so gratified that 'average' citizens took it upon themselves to do the hard work of self-government this past week---getting out in the trenches to fight those who have so little regard for our freedom that they will pervert the election process for their own political power.

Of course, FReepers aren't 'average', but my point stands. ;-)

Next time, we need 'hotlines' available in every area of the country...wherever situations arise like those described in Arkansas, we need to be prepared to rush troops into the line. There is no reason that one of our people should have to stand against such corruption alone.

EV

[nicmarlo]

THanks for not making an issue of my spelling

LOL: Thanks (not THanks). yw 8]