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Sniper Letter Linked to [Blacks = G-d] Movement
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| 10/26/02
Posted on 10/26/2002 4:56:37 PM PDT by NativeNewYorker
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posted on
10/27/2002 6:04:16 AM PST
by
mhking
To: SauronOfMordor; hispanarepublicana; Sabertooth; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Shermy; Clovis_Skeptic; ...
Thanks for giving hispanarepublicana credit for posting this yesterday.
I would bet that the Black Racist, PC Moose knew from the minute he read the hand written note from these scum bag snipers, he knew who he was dealing with.
Instead of changing his Black Racist Political Correctness tactic of harassing and endangering all white males driving white vans, PC Moose kept this quite.
Finally it was leaked to the media as well as the license # and description of the perp's car by a good cop on his staff. Then, within 3 hours of the leak of the vehicle license # and description, these Nation of Islam Killers were caught thanks to that data by a brave trucker.
To: kcvl
Thanks for posting this by the IslamoFascist Krazy Farrakhan.
pepsionice on another thread posted the possibility that John Muhammed has been a hit man for years for al Fuqra/Nation of Islam to get rid of dissenters and loud mouths who could cause a problem.
To: kcvl
Thanks for posting this data.
This should be of interest to all of us re the so Called New Black Panthers: Mumia, we backin you up with Black Power! Sponsored by: Million Youth March, RISE Foundation, New Black Student Movement, & New Black Panther Party
To: randita
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posted on
10/27/2002 7:43:35 AM PST
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Ditto
To: Grampa Dave
I would bet that the Black Racist, PC Moose knew from the minute he read the hand written note from these scum bag snipers, he knew who he was dealing with. The phrase "Word is Bond", to a black man who grew up in black culture (as Moose obviously did), would have been instantly recognised as a "black culture" phrase. Putting the phrase into a google search would have immediately pointed to Nation of Islam and the Five Percenters as the origin of the phrase.
Moose knew. He knew from the minute he saw the letter that he was dealing with a Black Muslim. He chose to lead the investigation in the direction of "white serial killer", because he did NOT want it to come out that all this was the work of a Black Muslim
Moose knew. He did NOT want to find Muhammod
To: SauronOfMordor; Admin Moderator
Moose knew. He knew from the minute he saw the letter that he was dealing with a Black Muslim. He chose to lead the investigation in the direction of "white serial killer", because he did NOT want it to come out that all this was the work of a Black Muslim Moose knew. He did NOT want to find Muhammod
Tinfoil hat nonsense.
To: SauronOfMordor
Sauron, its deeper than that... the authorities PUT MOOSE in charge intentionally....You think they just picked a random spot in TACOMA to look for evidence 3,000 from DC???The FBI had known much more than was leaked to the media
they knew about the international liks between the domestic and foreign Jihadists.
If a WHITE sheriff had found J.A. Muhammad, the conspiracy kooks would have had a field day. In fact the setup angle is being spun even as we speak.....
To: SauronOfMordor
Moose knew. He did NOT want to find MuhammodThat is an outrageous statement. To the contrary, Moose encouraged everyone NOT to assume anything and to keep an open mind about who the villain might be and what he might be driving.
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posted on
10/27/2002 8:20:17 AM PST
by
Ligeia
To: kcvl
The killing ritual usually involves the shooting of the individual five times; four to the chest and one to the head.
Could this have been what the 5 stars on the letter that was left at the Ponderosa represent.
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posted on
10/27/2002 8:53:07 AM PST
by
TexKat
To: kcvl
Many have legally changed their names to reflect their chosen attribute. Examples of these names are; Infinite Allah , Be God, Justice Born Allah
Thee was some guy that spoke (very scary speech) at the Millions for Reparation march in Washington in August,who called himself Prince Israel. I wondered at that time, where he came from. He was dressed in all white garb, but a young handsome, light complexed guy. I wonder if he is a part of this movement. I had never heard of this group (5%). I guess its time to do some studying.
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posted on
10/27/2002 8:59:23 AM PST
by
TexKat
To: NativeNewYorker
This story just gets freakier. The 5%ers that I met in college were all nuts but I never thought any of them would any more than just talk. John Allen Muhammad is probably a cafeteria Muslim. He picks and chooses what he like and his "step son/companion/whatever" follows along.
To: NativeNewYorker
Chief Moose just got back at Wolf Blitzer in an interview on CNN. Moose asked Blitzer why CNN did not report to LE that the sniper had made a phone call to them.
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posted on
10/27/2002 9:25:14 AM PST
by
TexKat
To: Nat Turner
If a WHITE sheriff had found J.A. Muhammad, the conspiracy kooks would have had a field day. In fact the setup angle is being spun even as we speak..... I seem to be missing something. Could you please explain your comment?
To: highpockets
ok this is the theory -- the SNIPER was supposed to a white right wing gun nut... Many blacks bought that media view- so hence a black sniper is inconcievable to them
So they wondered why a BLACK Sheriff was chosen to head the task force instead of the White police heads from other counties (I think PG county eventhough its a black majority county has a white Sheriff)
Since we know that most blacks dont trust police anyway they would be more likely to trust a black one
Hence the presence of a Black sheriff, in their eyes points to a conspiracy to frame a black man since WHITE sheriff doing the exact same thing would be suspect in their eyes.
yes the logic makes no sense and is convoluted. But its the same thinking that pervades the community and states Bush "stole" the election from Gore
To: SauronOfMordor
I'm sorry if I am misunderstanding the meat of this subdebate, but I find it surprising that anyone would exclusively associate the phrase "word is bond" with any specific subculture, black, white, or other.
"My word is my bond" is an ethos I was raised to honor and emulate. I am white.
If I am misunderstanding something, please explain.
To: Nat Turner
Nat, I think you may be right - there were witnesses, the snipers appears to have left messages here and there, and everybody must have known, before too long, that they were black. When I was discussing this with someone in law enforcement, she said that the details that came out would immediately have indicated Black Muslims/Five Percenters to her or any big city police officer.
Possibly Moose was kept there as a figurehead. That might not have been a bad decision.
But the fact that Moose at one point came out and said that the suspects were NOT black was not a good decision, because it let them slip through a number of encounters with police that might have prevented them from killing at least 5 other people (blacks among them).
I don't know why a black sniper is inconceivable - I lived through the Zebra killers in San Francisco, in the mid 1970s. They were Black Muslims who called themselves the Death Angels and shot whites from a car as they drove around the city. And then there was the black guy (Jamaican, if I recall correctly) on the LIRR train in NY who leaped up and blasted away a number of commuters a few years ago. This possibility was one of the first things that should have occurred to investigators, and I think it probably would have, if they hadn't been told immediately that the shooters were definitely "not black."
I think you're right in identifying the reason for the decision to keep Moose up there. But somebody somewhere should have told at least LE folks who they were really looking for - and if nobody really knew, they shouldn't have EXCLUDED blacks from the list. I think if I were the mother of that 13 year old black child who was shot, I'd be pretty upset right now.
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posted on
10/27/2002 3:19:32 PM PST
by
livius
To: demosthenes the elder
I'm sorry if I am misunderstanding the meat of this subdebate, but I find it surprising that anyone would exclusively associate the phrase "word is bond" with any specific subculture, black, white, or other. "My word is my bond" is an ethos I was raised to honor and emulate. Exactly. "My word is my bond" is a commonly-used expression. The phrase the sniper used is "Word is Bond" (sniper had it in quotes, with first and last word capitalized), a subtly-different wording which is used in Nation of Islam literature, eg: this reference
Lesson number one, question number 11 says:
HAVE YOU NOT LEARNED THAT YOUR WORD SHALL BE BOND REGARDLESS OF WHOM OR WHAT?
A. YES. MY WORD IS BOND AND BOND IS LIFE AND I WILL GIVE MY LIFE BEFORE MY WORD SHALL FAIL. </blockquote
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