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Beltway Sniper Shootings-FR Commentary-Thurs., Oct. 24,2002
Fox News, CNN, Press Conferences | October 24, 2002 | Fox News, CNN, Press Conferences

Posted on 10/24/2002 2:38:22 AM PDT by wewillnotfail

Overnite, two men arrested while sleeping in their car at a reststop in MD. John Mohammed aka John Williams and his stepson Lee Malvo. Mohammad is thought to be the likely shooter.


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; US: Maryland; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: dc; maryland; religionofpeace; rop; shootings; sniper; terrorism; virginia
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To: cake_crumb
Words have meaning don't they?
2,141 posted on 10/24/2002 3:38:27 PM PDT by slimer
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To: All
4. We bought into the idea that he a local.

5. More???
2,142 posted on 10/24/2002 3:39:08 PM PDT by John Jamieson
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To: John Jamieson
We all basically bought into the white truck idea, and ignored the Caprice.

Is the white truck now out of the picture or does it have anything to do with the new threat issued this afternoon? Explosives being driven around by someone other than the "sniper"?

2,143 posted on 10/24/2002 3:39:51 PM PDT by aeronca
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To: Katya
I thought I just saw a press conference where it was stated these two are NOT the ones sought in the Alabama case.

Anyone else see that?
2,144 posted on 10/24/2002 3:40:04 PM PDT by justshe
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To: Ligeia
oh my gosh, even though there was a bit of a gray sky above, I felt so refreshed today....particularly since I stayed up till about 1:15 on yesterdays thread and got up at 6:15am this morning ;)
2,145 posted on 10/24/2002 3:40:34 PM PDT by Katya
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To: justshe
Actually took a break to feed people....missed all press conferences if they took place on the television...I'm a bit of a radiophile.
2,146 posted on 10/24/2002 3:41:42 PM PDT by Katya
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To: slimer
If the mom and kid had been deported atleast 11 lives would have been saved! Muhammud probably wouldn't have done it alone.
2,147 posted on 10/24/2002 3:41:48 PM PDT by John Jamieson
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To: slimer
Seriously...

About the duck/decoy thing...this is what I came up with on the Tarot card cryptogram...

INTERPRETATION OF CRYPTOGRAM MESSAGE ON TAROT "DEATH" CARD:
"DEAR MR POLICEMAN, I AM GOD."
USING WAITE-RYDER DECK (NOTE: standard deletion of duplicates)

10/24/02

I haven't messed with cryptograms in years. One night (VERY late) I was thinking about the only published message the murders left to the police. It was obviously a simple alphanumerical thing, where each letter of the alphabet has a corresponding number. I used only the first letter of each word in the Tarot message. The problem was, what the corresponding NUMBERS corresponded to. The key to the cryptogram hit me like a ton of bricks: the killers wanted to communicate with police...and others, via the all too willing, hysteria-mongering news media. The numbers had to correspond to the numbers on a deck of Tarot cards. After that it was easy.

I only decided to do this a few days ago...then was afraid to publish it, because I was afraid of messing up the investigation, or something (not that the killers were likely to read this website.) Now that it probably doesn't matter, here it is.

D: (4; Emperor card) - "Who's in control" or more likely: "I am in control."

E: (5; Hierophant) "This won't be easy, but it can be done. The solution is there. Find it. Bring it to you."

A: (1; Fool) "Pay attention. Watch your step or you will fall and look like a fool."

R: (18; Moon) "When Someone else is in control, you have two choices: chase your tail and howl at the moon, or do something constructive [or do this - or these positive thing(s)]"

M: (13; Death) "The old world, the old life is dead. This is a time of change and new beginning."

P: (16; Tower) "The Tower, which represents lies and deception, must [had to?] be destroyed to make way for something new to be built."

O: (15; Devil) "You must free yourself from the Earthly bonds of greed, lust, ambition, decadence [yeah, yeah, yada, yada. Prostletyzing bastard.]

L: (12; Hermit) "Keep your distance. Speak to no one. Contemplate what you do not understand."

I: (9; Hanged Man) [PAUSE for a time, then life must go on] "Sacrifice [or surrender your mind] and all will be made clear. In order to gain, you must give: money, time, a belief [etc]"

C: (3; High Preistess) "I know all about you. Your tools, how you think, how you do things."

G: (7; Chariot) "You are my opposite; my enemy. I will conquer, and you will follow my path. I have complete faith in my cause. My path is the right path."

Comments: Chilling stuff.

1:) Not enough to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that this is a foreign, or foreign Muslim, terrorist.

2:) No unequivocal proof it's a homegrown Johnnie Jihad wannabe, but this is NO white supremicist, redneck, Skoal chewing gun nut.

3:) While the author hints at specialized training and a knowledge of Police tactics and procedures, it is unclear whether he is saying he's a police officer, military special ops, or a mujahadine.

4:) Beyond the Usama type prostyletizing and veiled references to 9/11/01 and Armegeddon, this is clearly an extortion note.

5:) This person hates the US government in general, and US foreign policy in particular.

8:) This person likes and has probably participated in media-popular protests, such as anti-war, anti-WTO, pro-Palestinian. MAYBE environmental.

CONCLUSION:

1:) Possible Muslim American terrorist.

2,148 posted on 10/24/2002 3:41:56 PM PDT by cake_crumb
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To: aeronca
WHAT new threat?????

I only dosed for about 30 minutes!
2,149 posted on 10/24/2002 3:42:01 PM PDT by justshe
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To: justshe
The press twisting what the chief said, I saw it.
2,150 posted on 10/24/2002 3:43:37 PM PDT by John Jamieson
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To: justshe
Late this afternoon the FBI issued a warning against railroads/railways as possible AQ attacks
2,151 posted on 10/24/2002 3:43:59 PM PDT by aeronca
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To: Katya
The print on the "GUN" magazine the shhoter dropped in Alabama matches the print on the letter..the 17 year old.
2,152 posted on 10/24/2002 3:44:16 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: aristeides
Anybody got any ideas about how we can prevent other jihadis from setting up sniper's nests in their cars?

Uh, Mass deportation. Internment camps. Reinvent Saudi Arabia as the Republic of New Texas.

2,153 posted on 10/24/2002 3:45:04 PM PDT by dinasour
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To: Route66
I have not seen that tendency among most of those who have stayed with this daily thread.

i've been on my bestest behaviour ...  

2,154 posted on 10/24/2002 3:45:07 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: justshe
Sorry, that was sloppy posting--trying to get supper done here. You are probably aware of the warning that was issued late this afternoon.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/775234/posts
2,155 posted on 10/24/2002 3:46:36 PM PDT by aeronca
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To: tomkat
Ok Buckwheat, but this fits you more that me (Huggy Bear)
2,156 posted on 10/24/2002 3:48:21 PM PDT by dinasour
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To: justshe; aristeides
Clarification: They contacted Baton Rouge police sometime Tuesday and his family members on Wednesday.
2,157 posted on 10/24/2002 3:48:56 PM PDT by Darlin'
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To: Yaelle
The bus driver was killed Tuesday.

That means releasing a bulletin Monday still could have saved him.

2,158 posted on 10/24/2002 3:49:43 PM PDT by aristeides
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To: Ligeia
The relief was visible today in easy smiles and smooth brows.

I think you can sense some of that relief in this thread.

But, it's not over. It's just beginning.

2,159 posted on 10/24/2002 3:50:58 PM PDT by dinasour
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To: All
5. We should have ALL realized that the gun would turnout to be a:
BUSHmaster!

2,160 posted on 10/24/2002 3:51:27 PM PDT by John Jamieson
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