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Beltway Sniper Shootings-FR Commentary-Tuesday, Oct. 22, 2002 [Another Shooting?]
Fox News, CNN, Press Releases | October 22, 2002 | Fox News, CNN, Press Releases

Posted on 10/22/2002 2:09:43 AM PDT by Peach

Let's keep a live commentary thread gonig again today.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; US: Maryland; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: banglist; dc; maryland; shooter; sniper; virginia
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To: PBRSTREETGANG
Are they still anticipating another Moose conference?

So far, yes.

2,061 posted on 10/22/2002 3:24:48 PM PDT by TexKat
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To: FootBall
YOU have a great memory :)...I have lost track of all the patterns, etc.

I'm not arguing with anybody about who they think this is, .anymore

I'm just not sure anymore and appreciate all your opinions.

Gotta go get more kids (different school):)


2,062 posted on 10/22/2002 3:24:54 PM PDT by valleygal
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To: Spirited; All
this is to be considered a collective apology for tardiness to all
who've directed a post my way, but it's really y'all's fault,
'cause i went out for some 'honeydo's' and came back to find myself 500 posts behind ...


2,063 posted on 10/22/2002 3:25:24 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: Peach
Oh my gosh...
2,064 posted on 10/22/2002 3:25:33 PM PDT by valleygal
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To: valleygal
Well, its already international. Already on Yahoo France and the Japanese news media is all flashing (in Japanese) news about 'the threats against American children" :

"Le tireur de Washington tue à nouveau et menace les enfants ROCKVILLE, Maryland (Reuters) - Le tireur embusqué à l'origine d'une véritable psychose aux Etats-Unis a averti la police que les enfants de la région de Washington n'étaient en sécurité "nulle part, à aucun moment". Charles Moose, chef de la police du comté de Montgomery, a déclaré lors d'une conférence de presse que la police avait reçu un appel téléphonique du tueur, soupçonné d'avoir assassiné 10 personnes et d'en avoir blessé trois depuis le 2 octobre. La police a lancé une vaste chasse à l'homme dans la région de Washington, où un chauffeur d'autobus a été tué par balle mardi matin - un acte qui ressemble fort aux neuf assassinats et trois tentatives attribués en vingt jours au tireur embusqué à l'origine d'une véritable psychose. La nouvelle victime a été touchée alors qu'elle se tenait debout à côté de son autobus à l'arrêt, vers 6 heures du matin (10h00 GMT), sur la Connecticut Avenue, à Aspen Hills, dans le comté de Montgomery (Maryland).

2,065 posted on 10/22/2002 3:25:53 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo
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To: EverOnward
Your post 2040 is correct. LEOs weren't the only ones told however.

That was my understanding as well, from what my coworker said. Media has been aware of the contents of the letter for some time but has been told, either unofficially or through a gag order, not to release the information.

2,066 posted on 10/22/2002 3:26:06 PM PDT by poppyseed
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To: valleygal
"Do you want me to call you and remind you to feed the kids?" LOL

Thats a good one.

2,067 posted on 10/22/2002 3:26:21 PM PDT by TexKat
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To: aristeides
If the National Guard is called out....what exactly are they supposed to do?....Escort children into school, pump gas, escort people in and out of stores?...will they be armed?....to me they will be more targets.
2,068 posted on 10/22/2002 3:26:48 PM PDT by mystery-ak
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To: valleygal
Not a stupid question and I'm glad you asked cuz I don't know either.:)

While we're asking questions, how do you post to all? Do you just type "All" (minus the quotation marks) in the To: field?

2,069 posted on 10/22/2002 3:27:34 PM PDT by poppyseed
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To: Darlin'
Thank you very much, because he WAS a terrorist and had been employed by and responsible for the infrastructure of public schools, somewhere. He has been deported, but I've wondered who he might have given what to.
2,070 posted on 10/22/2002 3:27:42 PM PDT by Letitring
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To: AmericanInTokyo
PS How to we respond in the world's eyes right now??? They are all watching us. Watching the Americans. Les Americains. Amerika jin. Meiguo ren. Los norteamericanos. They are watching from terrorist sanctuaries from Baghdad to Pakistan to rural Indonesia (and in Lackawanna, NY and Portland, OR for that matter!)
2,071 posted on 10/22/2002 3:28:16 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo
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To: All
Question wrt the money that the sniper is supposedly asking for...I know some people have said that AQ doesn't ask for money, but didn't the AQ members who kidnapped and murdered Daniel Pearl ask for ransom money? I seem to remember them asking for money even though they'd probably already killed him at that point.
2,072 posted on 10/22/2002 3:28:39 PM PDT by rangerwife
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To: TexKat
But did you notice how hunched over he was...like he is literally carrying the weight of the world on his shoulders.
2,073 posted on 10/22/2002 3:29:29 PM PDT by berkeleybeej
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To: Peach
NewsMax (I know, not always reliable) is reporting the letter from the sniper threatened extreme violence and WUSA-TV's reporter David Statter says "the genie is out of the bottle".

What an incredibly poor choice of words.

Google search reveals:

Guardian Unlimited | Special reports | Nuclear special: The genie ... ... on the future of Kashmir 06.08.2002: The genie is out of the bottle 06.08.2002: The new nukes 06.08.2002: What did CND achieve? Interactive guide Nuclear ... www.guardian.co.uk/nuclear/article/ 0,2763,770601,00.html - 39k - Cached - Similar pages

Put the Nuclear Genie back in the bottle! ... GENIE CAN BE PUT BACK INTO THE BOTTLE! THE TIME TO DO IT IS NOW! India, defying international condemnation and harsh US sanctions, has conducted. FIVE NUCLEAR ... www.nonviolence.org/amhvigil/genie.html - 5k - Cached - Similar pages

msJAMA - Jul 5 Reviews: The Genie Out of the Bottle (c) AMA 2000 ... Stagg Field at the University of Chicago, the world's first manmade nuclear ... harness the energy of the atom, had just let an angry genie out of its bottle ... www.ama-assn.org/sci-pubs/msjama/articles/ vol_284/no_1/wilkinson.htm - 8k - Oct. 21, 2002 - Cached - Similar pages

5/1/96: Ted Taylor, Putting the Nuclear Genie Back in the Bottle Putting the Nuclear Genie Back in the Bottle. Theodore B. Taylor. PO Box 662, Wellsville, NY 14895 Tel: 716-593-3084 Fax: 716-593-6347 Email: tedbtaylor@aol.com ... www.nci.org/i/ib5196.htm - 15k - Cached - Similar pages

The Genie in the Bottle ... The Quest. Nuclear power has been described as a 'genie in a bottle'. Is the 'genie' a blessing or a burden? The Process and Resources. ... www.kn.pacbell.com/wired/fil/pages/webnuclearro.html - 15k - Cached - Similar pages

Putting the Genie Back Nuclear Age Peace Foundation Gathers Great ... ... the US, USSR, and England took the first step toward putting the genie back in the bottle when they signed the limited test ban treaty halting tests of nuclear ... www.wagingpeace.org/articles/cornfield.html - 47k - Cached - Similar pages

Boogie Online: Y2K: Keeping The Genie In The Bottle ... Keeping The Genie In The Bottle. Proliferation of nuclear, biological, and chemical weapons is becoming the most serious challenge facing the world today. ... www.boogieonline.com/stories/v02n34/genie.html - 3k - Cached - Similar pages

DodgeGlobe: The Dodge City Daily Globe - Nuclear genie has ... ... The Dodge City Daily Globe Nuclear genie has escaped bottle My View By Jacqueline Cabasso and Andrew Lichterman Special to the Globe. ... www.wslfweb.org/docs/nucoped402.htm - 28k - Cached - Similar pages

Putting the Genie Back into the Bottle Putting the Nuclear Genie Back in the Bottle. Theodore B. Taylor. PO Box 662, Wellsville, NY 14895 Tel: 716-593-3084 Fax: 716-593-6347 ... books.regehr.org/misc/bottle.html - 26k - Cached - Similar pages

FoRK Archive: The Genie is Out of the Bottle ... IP shopped to Cable & Wireless"; Next in thread: Robert Harley: "Re: The Genie is Out of the Bottle". With the announcement that Pakistan has exploded a nuclear ... www.xent.com/FoRK-archive/may98/0538.html - 3k - Cached - Similar pages

2,074 posted on 10/22/2002 3:31:16 PM PDT by mpoulin
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To: StayAt HomeMother
I'd not thought of that.

I don't think it would hurt to write the state legislature and remind them of that. I don't know what they'd decide to do.

2,075 posted on 10/22/2002 3:31:27 PM PDT by Lion's Cub
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To: ClancyJ
I am not lacking faith in the LEAs. And I have tried to qualify most of my posts (but I must admit, at my age, I cannot remember everything I have posted, pretty sad actually) with "if what we know is all they have" or some such statement, or "assuming the LEAs have more info" (not exact quotes). I agree, we don't know everything. I was speaking in terms of "the sniper demanded they read that part of the letter" stuff. I agree, the LEAs are walking a fine line. But, I just feel that they are showing an extreme weakness. They are showing that they have no real clue. Maybe they do have a clue. Maybe they are not extremely weak. If so, why are they showing that. They are not instilling a lot of confidence in this one simpleton, yours truely. I don't feel what I felt when a day or two after the 9/11 horror, when President Bush took the floor of the House Chambers and said, we won't rest, and neither will you. We are coming after you, and you will pay. I just don't feel that. I want to feel that. I want that confidence. I want to hear the coach say, "we are going to win. The chips may seem down, but we will win." I don't want to hear the coach say, "I hope we win."

Perception is reality. Like it or not, (and I hope none will take offense at this, please understand the context) this is a game. This guy is playing us. A game for our lives, mind you, but still a game. Perception is reality. Instill confidence. Get one for the Gipper.
2,076 posted on 10/22/2002 3:31:35 PM PDT by yukong
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To: rangerwife
I know; the money angle has got me, too. I don't remember if Daniel Pearl's captors did ask for ransom before he was killed. Obviously they knew they would never get it. Then why ask? And why ask now? Is this in some handbook and they can't skip "Rule Number 7?" There is no way we are giving them the money. Although if the killers are stupid enough there may be a way for LE to try to flush them out somehow?
2,077 posted on 10/22/2002 3:31:59 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: greasyHeart
I read somewhere last week that there is a clown in DC that gets into trouble sometimes. He offered himself as a target and dared the killer to target him.
That takes a set.
2,078 posted on 10/22/2002 3:32:00 PM PDT by RS_Rider
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To: Letitring
hehe. You didn't freepmail it. Yes, it was in that general area and appeared abandoned when they did the stroy about it. Quilla said she looked into it and the locals said it wasn't a a terrorist training camp.

Do you recall how long ago the ME type deported or what typ activity caused him to be deported ? In what capacity was he employed ? Civil Engineer ? Architect ? Contractor ?

2,079 posted on 10/22/2002 3:32:21 PM PDT by Darlin'
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To: All
LE should release the ENTIRE LETTER NOW!!
2,080 posted on 10/22/2002 3:32:56 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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