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1 posted on 10/20/2002 7:50:23 AM PDT by Deadeye Division
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To: Deadeye Division
Gun "fingerprinting" will greatly encourage "garage gunsmithing". It's easy to swap parts and change the "fingerprint". The author of this emotional nonsense would never admit that. The title of the article expresses her wishes, rather than what will happen.
2 posted on 10/20/2002 8:00:39 AM PDT by You Gotta Be Kidding Me
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To: Deadeye Division
Next time, please post it under

BARF ALERT!

The author is a twit.

3 posted on 10/20/2002 8:03:20 AM PDT by Capitalist Eric
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To: Deadeye Division
the most rudimentary, common sense gun-control measures.

Typical propaganda. THere's nothing "common sense" about trusting a technology that is far from perfected, and that would prove virtually impossible to implement anyway. How many variations do these idiots think there are in a given caliber and a given manufacturer? One .243 Model 700 Remington is going to have nearly identical ballistic markings to the next, considering they are produced using CNC machining that allows for only the most miniscule deviations from the blueprint.

But "ballistic fingerprinting" is the new magic pill for the anti-gun set. There is almost no way hundreds of thousands of ballistic fingerprints will yield only one qualifying set, meaning that the first time it is used it could yield false positives and ruin someone's life.

This is an idea whose time has not come, and probably never will.

That said, Ms. McCarty should also note that the president DID agree to finance a study of the technology.

But this isn't really about that anyway, is it, Ms. McCarty?

4 posted on 10/20/2002 8:08:15 AM PDT by IronJack
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5 posted on 10/20/2002 8:09:55 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed
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To: Deadeye Division
This is typical lamestream media bullsh*t. If this woman had the slightest clue of what "ballistic fingerprinting" actually means, and how it is radically different from fingerprints on humans, she would not embarrass herself by writing such drivel in public. But she doesn't, so she has.

Does anyone have an e-mail address for this latte lefty?

See the first link for my take on this subject.

Congressman Billybob

This column is based on the fine work by FReepers in a thread on FR. Click for "Ballistics and Bullsh*t"

Click for "Til Death Do Us Part."

Click for "to Restore Trust in America"

6 posted on 10/20/2002 8:10:28 AM PDT by Congressman Billybob
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To: Deadeye Division
Ms. McCarty: And by the way, you old croak, nobody is "kowtowing" to the pro-gun lobby any more than your heros "kowtow" to the environmental or homo weirdos. Gun owners in this country have a right to have their voices heard in Washington as well as liberals, in case you're truly interested in the democratic process.

But that wouldn't make any difference to you would it, not if it interfered with YOUR agenda.

8 posted on 10/20/2002 8:10:52 AM PDT by IronJack
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the president would oppose even the most rudimentary, common sense gun-control measures.

First point: common sense gun-control measures violate the Constitution just as much as outrageous gun-control measures. In fact, there's no distinction between common-sense and outrageous -- No law means No law!

Then again, maybe it was the president's reason for opposing fingerprinting: It would violate the privacy of gun owners.

But the Leftists love privacy! Are they saying that Republicans cannot claim privacy as a motivating factor? Why not? Isn't abortion justified (to a leftist) by the Constitutional Right to Privacy (which doesn't exist). It seems that the Right to Privacy is one of those things that comes and goes: It's there when Leftists want it there, but it's gone when Conservatives want it.

This is why the Cosntitution should not be a "living" document: it means what it means. It's not OK to wake up and discover different meanings depending on the weather.

9 posted on 10/20/2002 8:12:15 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: Deadeye Division
This airhead doesn't even suspect the millions of dollars this useless dream would cost. Yes, sometimes you can use it when you catch the guy with the gun. But a bullet from every rifle or handgun in the whole wide world.

That can be altered in a few moments in a dozen different ways ie: file, sandpaper, steelwool, drill, lapping compound, plain old neglect, rust, barrel change, firing pin change, extractor change, besides the perp would have to be stupid to use a gun that is tied to him as the original owner etc, etc.

She wants somebody to pass a law that will make the sniper bad guys stop. We already got twenty thousand of them on the books, that the sniper(s) care less about than the people they are killing. The best way to stop them is, for a good guy with a gun (police or citizen), to shoot them first.

11 posted on 10/20/2002 8:35:26 AM PDT by mississippi red-neck
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To: Deadeye Division
This would amount to a national data base of gun owners. Every gun registration scheme has, within 10 yrs ended up as a confiscation list. Ask long term NYC residents. Ask WWII era Germans. Ask pre-Casto Cubans.

MARK A SITY
http://www.logic101.net/
14 posted on 10/20/2002 9:39:38 AM PDT by logic101.net
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To: Deadeye Division
Memo to Mary:

Learn how to "unfingerprint" a gun in 20 minutes - with common gun tools...

BTW, she slipped up on her talking points- she's supposed to slur the phrase "NRA/Gun Lobby" together in one sibilant slander of distaste, like the congresscritters do when they talk on TV...

15 posted on 10/20/2002 9:55:22 AM PDT by backhoe
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To: Deadeye Division
I bet this idiot little girl has knives on her kitchen counter, and a 5-gallon bucket and stairs in her home: All of these things kill thousands more children each year than guns do.

Where is her call for 5-gallon bucket lids, removal of two story homes, and mandatory safes for knives?
16 posted on 10/20/2002 9:56:26 AM PDT by PatrioticAmerican
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To: Deadeye Division
Barf

You forgot to post this L
17 posted on 10/20/2002 9:57:58 AM PDT by Fiddlstix
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To: Deadeye Division
Gee, I missed this:

It's only a reasonable restriction of the kind that we submit to when we register our cars.

Uhh... hold the phone a minute there, Mary... aren't they looking for a white van?
Aren't all vehicles registered?
And this has helped how?

18 posted on 10/20/2002 9:58:26 AM PDT by backhoe
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To: Deadeye Division
my dog after mistakenly reading this



21 posted on 10/20/2002 1:32:27 PM PDT by TheRedSoxWinThePennant
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To: Deadeye Division
Fingerprinting firearms is hardly the violation of privacy these measures represent. It's only a reasonable restriction of the kind that we submit to when we register our cars.

the most rudimentary, common sense gun-control measures.

How is gun registration in any form "common sense" when the supreme court has ruled that it is against the law to require any felon to register their gun (self-incrimination)?

My only guess is that "common sense" is a totaly foreign concept to Ms. McCarty.

23 posted on 10/20/2002 2:41:55 PM PDT by alaskanfan
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To: Deadeye Division
CHUNDER AHOY!!!


25 posted on 10/20/2002 8:22:05 PM PDT by Axenolith
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