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Ashland Shooting: Sunday Updates
Various ^ | 10-20-02 | GRRRRR

Posted on 10/20/2002 4:13:26 AM PDT by GRRRRR

The other thread is running over 2800 posts...so here's a new place to post for Sunday.

Per FOXNews, a 10am EASTERN news conference is planned. Two travelers pulled off I-95 for dinner at a Ponderosa Steak House. The Man, 37, was shot in the gut while his wife stood next to him.

Bullet has NOT been removed from the man while, after surgery, he remains in Critical but GUARDED condition, however, x-rays are expected to provide some dimensional analysis of the slug. Further surgeries may be required on the victim, according to FOX and then the bullet is likely to be recovered.

Meanwhile, the "white" box truck/van that was found with a "Shell" in it at Dulles is reported to be a 7.62 (.030'??) OLD shell and NOT expected to be part of the "Sniper Shootings".

Multiple LEA's are now in Ashland, VA located about 80 miles south of DC to begin more site investigations at first light of dawn.

Numerous witnesses in the area saw the man fall down and provided aid to the man. The man was still conscious and spoke during the rescue. According to (spit) CNN, there will be NO news conferences from the hospital.

Over to you Laurie Dhue...GRRRRRollin'


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; US: Maryland; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: sniper; terrorism
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To: LibWhacker
The spleen is supposed to be the consistency of wet tissue paper. From what I understand, if it gets damaged its consistency makes it impossible for a surgeon to sew back together.
261 posted on 10/20/2002 11:58:33 AM PDT by Arkinsaw
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To: thatdewd
Thanks. Is the spleen hard and brittle like bone or something (I don't know anything about this stuff!)?
262 posted on 10/20/2002 11:59:32 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: Truth29
We had a gigantic discussion of this on the thread from last night. Its still on the breaking news farther down. That thread should cover the whole debate.
263 posted on 10/20/2002 11:59:39 AM PDT by Arkinsaw
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To: GeorgeandtheDralgore
Any news about the 13 yo?

The ER Physician said the kid had lost almost all his blood and in my opinion absolutely confirmed that his aunt saved his life by going counter to traditional/conventional wisdom which says, wait for the ambulance. She didn't wait and even then, he almost bled out. She drove him a short distance to a Doc in a Box and then they flew him to her hospital where she was a ped nurse or Nursing Supervisor.

264 posted on 10/20/2002 12:00:12 PM PDT by OReilly
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To: Arkinsaw
. . . wet tissue paper . . .

Okay, thank you for that info.

265 posted on 10/20/2002 12:00:51 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: OReilly
It certainly was a miracle he survived. I remember being really upset after reading some of the posts condemning her decision to drive him to the medical center. As a Mom, I knew I would've done the same thing under the same circumstances. Some of the comments were so judgmental and nasty, it was sickening. I'm happy what she did saved his life.
266 posted on 10/20/2002 12:07:17 PM PDT by Elenya
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To: eno_
A key thing to remember about the tarot card is that the message was in German. This was reported in the Wash Post and several other mainstream media outlets.

I have not heard this - do you have a link?

267 posted on 10/20/2002 12:13:28 PM PDT by L_Von_Mises
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To: floriduh voter
I've been saying for a week...there is no white van. He nests, and waits for white vans to show up, and leave, and then he hits the first target in the field of fire.

By doing this, he psychologically camoflages himself. Everybody is hyper-focused on finding, tracking and describing a "white van." They're psychologically blinded to anything else.

268 posted on 10/20/2002 12:13:48 PM PDT by cookcounty
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To: GeorgeandtheDralgore
Some of the comments were so judgmental and nasty, it was sickening. I'm happy what she did saved his life.

I agree. And when I read about the gas station guys running around getting a jack, to jack up the car, off the lady, that was vacuuming her car, (which was just a case of mis-diagnosis of her problem) and the cop doing CPR while waiting for the Ambulance, it tells me the Middle school student didn't have any time to spare.

269 posted on 10/20/2002 12:14:40 PM PDT by OReilly
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To: Luis Gonzalez
The best way to deal with this is to hit back. Hit back ruthlessly and violently.

Hit them so hard that they will think not only twice, but three, fourm, five, and six times before doing anything to us again.

They kill our families, they forfeit the lives of theirs.

That's all fine and good. But how do you know this is Mid Eastern terrorist types?

Now, it may very well be, but how do you know until the bad guy/guys are caught?

And something else many seem to be forgetting.

These fanatic's and their fanatic religion are more important than their families, wife's, daughter's etc. It's more important than life itself!

They are driven by fanaticism. They don't give a damn if you or the evil US government wipes out their entire family, as their religion and after life are much more important. These people are like zombies.

I know this all too well, as some of these people have told me right to my face. And they are not kidding. And to prove this, look no further than the insane images of 911......

I would add however, if these bombings, and attacks, and shootings continue, and it is proven that the perps are Mid Eastern types, there is only one way to deal with these people, and it is not tit for tat, eye for an eye. That just don't work! Ask those in Israel. They will tell you.

My way would be very ugle, barbaric and brutal beyond belief, but very effective. I would be civil however. I would give our enemy nations one warning. That's it.

My way would be barbaric and brutal beyond belief.

They are very fortunate, I am not in charge.

There will come a time, when many American's will agree. The time is coming, but more American blood will need to flow first.

270 posted on 10/20/2002 12:14:53 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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To: aristeides
http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/nation/bal-to.first16oct16,0,4718962.story?coll=ny-homepage-more-breaking-news

I have no idea how to post a link..hope this works :)
271 posted on 10/20/2002 12:15:06 PM PDT by shattered
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To: Arkinsaw
Thanks.
272 posted on 10/20/2002 12:19:58 PM PDT by Truth29
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To: L_Von_Mises
I have not heard this - do you have a link?

Looks like there isn't any. Try the search yourself and all you'll find will be the "Ich bin Gott"'s reference to the Columbine shooting.

273 posted on 10/20/2002 12:21:41 PM PDT by Elenya
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To: OReilly
Are we expecting another news conference today or is that it?
274 posted on 10/20/2002 12:27:19 PM PDT by Elenya
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To: LibWhacker
I thought the doc said the man's spleen was not just destroyed but shattered into muliple pieces. Don't see how that can be the case unless the bullet itself fragmented into a jillion pieces. Doc declined to comment about that.

My understanding is that hydrostatic shock (dissipating the energy in the bullet) can cause tissue damage well beyond the immediate impact area.

If the impact was on or near the spleen, it might caused that without significant fragmentation.

275 posted on 10/20/2002 12:27:39 PM PDT by justlurking
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To: GeorgeandtheDralgore
Are we expecting another news conference today or is that it?

Best I got out of the last one was, no! If there is anything we will let you know, but for now, that is it.

276 posted on 10/20/2002 12:29:57 PM PDT by OReilly
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To: Truth29
While I do not like these tactics I realize there is a whack job out there intent on killing and causing all sorts of commotion in millions of lives. Therefore, I will acccept this limited incursion into my civil rights. This very organized murderer has eluded hundreds of LEO and thousands of FR best guesses--it is time to get this fruit cake/ ME terrorist/ or whatever into custody.

I am convinced that there are at least 2 involved here, if not more.

The Tarheel

277 posted on 10/20/2002 12:31:49 PM PDT by Tarheel
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To: GeorgeandtheDralgore
Looks like there isn't any. Try the search yourself and all you'll find will be the "Ich bin Gott"'s reference to the Columbine shooting.

Thanks, that's what I thought.

278 posted on 10/20/2002 12:33:37 PM PDT by L_Von_Mises
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To: justlurking
If the impact was on or near the spleen, it might caused that without significant fragmentation

I think you are right... has anyone seen what happens when one of these High Velocity varmit shells hits a watermelon? Fluid and watermelon everywhere.

279 posted on 10/20/2002 12:35:02 PM PDT by OReilly
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To: OReilly
Thanks. Gotta go for now.
280 posted on 10/20/2002 12:35:27 PM PDT by Elenya
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