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Evangelical Group Says Jews Need Conversion
Deseret News ^ | Oct 12, 2002 | AP

Posted on 10/17/2002 4:20:26 PM PDT by jstone78

Evangelical Group Says Jews Need Conversion

WHEATON, Ill. (AP) — The World Evangelical Alliance is taking issue with an August report from U.S. Roman Catholic bishops that opposes efforts to target Jews for conversion.

The evangelical organization, an alliance of 120 national and regional church fellowships and 75 non-denominational ministries, has reaffirmed and reissued a declaration defending Jewish evangelism that was written in 1989 by 16 theologians from nine nations.

One of those theologians, the Rev. J.I. Packer, an Anglican teaching at Regent College in Vancouver, British Columbia, endorsed the reaffirmation. "Sharing Jesus Christ with our Jewish friends is as important a task as ever it was," he said.

The 27-point statement decries anti-Semitism and confesses that Christian churches have "been much to blame for tolerating and encouraging it," but says this history doesn't remove the right to share Christianity with Jews.

The Catholic bishops said deepened appreciation of God's unbroken covenant with the Jewish people means "campaigns that target Jews for conversion to Christianity are no longer acceptable in the Catholic Church."

But the evangelical paper defends such targeted evangelism and denies that Israel's covenant relationship by itself brings salvation or that "any person can enjoy God's favor apart from the mediation of Jesus Christ."

"Faith in Jesus Christ is humanity's only way to come to know the Creator," the paper asserts.


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KEYWORDS: christians; conversion; jews
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To: jstone78
The World Evangelical Alliance is taking issue with an August report from U.S. Roman Catholic bishops that opposes efforts to target Jews for conversion.

It was pointless for the Catholic bishops to say that, since we Catholics shrink from evangilizing anyhow.

What does that say about our belief!

41 posted on 10/17/2002 5:40:31 PM PDT by fatguy
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To: Jack Black
I am not claiming anything. I just wrote what the Bible said. You can choose to believe what you want. If you haven't read the Bible from front to back.. then you are just believing what is convenient for you. Unless of course, you don't believe the Bible either.

Not an uncommon thing to do for those who think they know all about God, from their own human viewpoint. Make is convenient... don't bother with Bible details.
42 posted on 10/17/2002 5:50:25 PM PDT by frnewsjunkie
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To: frodolives
I just stumbled on these idiotic threads. "My God's better than your god, my God's better than yours..." Same class as a dog food commercial. Betcha these folks actually believe the Landover Baptist Church exists. Check that website- Darn near as funny as these fundamentalist loonies!

Tolkien, BTW, was a Christian, but of course you didn't know that, frodolives, before you started bashing "fundamentalist loonies"....

43 posted on 10/17/2002 5:53:40 PM PDT by freebilly
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To: The KG9 Kid
Takes a big man who's an Evangelical Christian to threaten a Jewish Girl Scout with visions of Hell-fire and Brimstone.

I'm a Christian, I've never been to a service where a Pastor spoke about Hell-fire and Brimstone.

Maybe you need to actually talk to a few Christians rather than rely on some jerkwater movie's characterization of them....

44 posted on 10/17/2002 5:57:37 PM PDT by freebilly
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To: freebilly
Don't try to tell me what my job is, and in return I'll let you be free to do yours.

Deal?

And do you 'get' the principle?

45 posted on 10/17/2002 5:58:43 PM PDT by tpaine
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To: HinduAmerican
there is no difference between al-qaida and this evangelical christen group. may they have not yet trained in afghanistan.

Oh, that's right! Worldwide Christians are crashing planes into buildings, planning suicide bombings, and prohibiting members of other religions from their religious practices under threat of death...

Lord, I'd call this man an idiot, but I know you wouldn't be pleased if I did....

46 posted on 10/17/2002 6:01:19 PM PDT by freebilly
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To: tpaine
tpaine, you've already made it quite clear you're an atheist. You've already made a choice. That was your job, and you performed it admirably....
47 posted on 10/17/2002 6:03:10 PM PDT by freebilly
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To: NBF40
"They are correct...last time I checked the small minority of Jews that actually practice their religion do not accept Christ as Savior."

You have forgotten the 50,000-100,000 Jews who believe that Jesus is the Messiah.

48 posted on 10/17/2002 6:06:22 PM PDT by cookcounty
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To: elbucko; OldFriend
THAT'S the main reason my Jewish friends vote Democrat. To be left alone.

The main reason MY Jewish friends vote Democratic is because they are Reform Jews, about as close to the real thing as I am (Presbyterian). They pretty much do as they wish as far as religion goes which fits the Democrats idea of do anything that makes you feel good.

The past President of my local Temple once told me that being a Reform Jew was like being a Democrat with religious holidays.

(OldFriend, Reform used in the correct manner, PING)

49 posted on 10/17/2002 6:08:18 PM PDT by HoustonCurmudgeon
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To: jstone78
Amen; what's so tough for all the religious 'Christians' to understand? Heaven only for certain people? Is that what the Word says? Did Christ die in vain? Praise God for a personal relationship with Christ, which persuades me as often as I need it that He died for EVERYONE to be brought into a personal relationship with the God who created us and loves us so very, very much.
50 posted on 10/17/2002 6:09:23 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution
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To: jstone78

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51 posted on 10/17/2002 6:10:00 PM PDT by Bob J
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To: The KG9 Kid
I can't say that from personal experience though, since I kick the door shut on them.

I see you are a Marine from California. That would explain your lack of manners.

United States Army - Texas

52 posted on 10/17/2002 6:14:05 PM PDT by HoustonCurmudgeon
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To: hoosierboy
"Being jewish I love it, we don't proselytize. "

When some people find a wonderful thing, they want to share it with others. Then again some folks want to keep good things to themselves.

I never understood why people who believe they have found something profoundly valuable would not care about whether others receive the same blessing.

53 posted on 10/17/2002 6:21:32 PM PDT by cookcounty
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To: jstone78
Evangelical Group Says Jews Need Conversion

Cute way the author spins this. The evangelicals "take issue" with a heterodox position of some American Catholic bishops. Yeah, right. The Christian church all the way back to Jesus himself, a Jew, said that everyone needs to be converted if he wants to see the kingdom of G-d. Such a pity that ignorance of theology is so rampant that the writer is unable to see his error.
54 posted on 10/17/2002 6:26:03 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: HoustonCurmudgeon
Some of my jewish friends think the religious folks are what's wrong in Israel.........aaaaarrrrrggggggghhhhhhhhh

And yes, they're democrats...........double arrrrrrrrggggggghhhhh

55 posted on 10/17/2002 6:53:27 PM PDT by OldFriend
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To: hoosierboy
"Being jewish, I love it. We don't proselytize."

How Jews have benefited from proselytizing: Yes, that's right, benefited. Without jewish proselytizing BC and into the early christian era there wouldn't be enough Jews today to sustain Israel, it probably would not have been founded in the first place. (In my view, the Jews were more enlightened then.

Has it ever occurred to you that if you invited certain peoples (especially in the middle east) to share in the blessings of Yahweh, the security of Israel and Jews generally might IMPROVE? Those poor folk have no clue as to what the blessings of the Hebrews are.

As a great Jew once said: "How shall they hear, without a preacher?"

56 posted on 10/17/2002 6:55:07 PM PDT by cookcounty
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To: freebilly
It is our duty and privilege to share the message, to all, of salvation through Christ crucified.
That's our job, everyone's else's job is to choose to believe or not.
40 - freebilly


Don't try to tell me what my job is, and in return I'll let you be free to do yours.

Deal?

And do you 'get' the principle?
45 - tpaine

"tpaine, you've already made it quite clear you're an atheist. You've already made a choice. That was your job, and you performed it admirably...."

Billy, it is obvious you don't get the constitutional principle here.

You're attempting to tell me that my job is being an 'athiest'. -- And that yours is to set me straight.
I'm not your athiest, and if you persist in that lie, you aren't a Christian, - nor much of an american, -- in any sense of those words.

57 posted on 10/17/2002 6:55:44 PM PDT by tpaine
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To: OldFriend
Some of my jewish friends think the religious folks are what's wrong in Israel.........aaaaarrrrrggggggghhhhhhhhh And yes, they're democrats...........double arrrrrrrrggggggghhhhh

I understand and would get rid of my Jewish friends, but they're just so darn nice!

BTW did you notice I've gotten better about the REFORM (no E D)?

58 posted on 10/17/2002 6:57:56 PM PDT by HoustonCurmudgeon
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To: freebilly
"... I'm a Christian, I've never been to a service where a Pastor spoke about Hell-fire and Brimstone... Maybe you need to actually talk to a few Christians rather than rely on some jerkwater movie's characterization of them.... "

That would be because you live in the middle of the California wine country, God bless you.

Maybe you need to actually talk to a few fellow Christians in some jerkwater location and see what your fellows are really like, in too many cases.

59 posted on 10/17/2002 7:01:39 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: sinkspur
>The Jews will always be the Chosen People.

Howz that again? Chosen by whom, and for what? (Cite specific Biblical authority, please.)

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60 posted on 10/17/2002 7:16:24 PM PDT by LostTribe
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