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Evangelical Group Says Jews Need Conversion
Deseret News ^ | Oct 12, 2002 | AP

Posted on 10/17/2002 4:20:26 PM PDT by jstone78

Evangelical Group Says Jews Need Conversion

WHEATON, Ill. (AP) — The World Evangelical Alliance is taking issue with an August report from U.S. Roman Catholic bishops that opposes efforts to target Jews for conversion.

The evangelical organization, an alliance of 120 national and regional church fellowships and 75 non-denominational ministries, has reaffirmed and reissued a declaration defending Jewish evangelism that was written in 1989 by 16 theologians from nine nations.

One of those theologians, the Rev. J.I. Packer, an Anglican teaching at Regent College in Vancouver, British Columbia, endorsed the reaffirmation. "Sharing Jesus Christ with our Jewish friends is as important a task as ever it was," he said.

The 27-point statement decries anti-Semitism and confesses that Christian churches have "been much to blame for tolerating and encouraging it," but says this history doesn't remove the right to share Christianity with Jews.

The Catholic bishops said deepened appreciation of God's unbroken covenant with the Jewish people means "campaigns that target Jews for conversion to Christianity are no longer acceptable in the Catholic Church."

But the evangelical paper defends such targeted evangelism and denies that Israel's covenant relationship by itself brings salvation or that "any person can enjoy God's favor apart from the mediation of Jesus Christ."

"Faith in Jesus Christ is humanity's only way to come to know the Creator," the paper asserts.


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KEYWORDS: christians; conversion; jews
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To: Betty4Bush
"My post was anything but ignorant. I'm sorry if it was inconvenient to you to hear the Truth and that you had no recourse but to stoop to insults. I will pray for you."

Thanks for your prayers.

Listen, I have little patience for Christians who don't know what they're talking about. We have a higher standard to meet. Christ is the source of knowledge and wisdom, so we have no excuses.

New believers are a different story, so if that's you, please fogive me for a short temper. (I have no excuses. Jesus is also the source of peace!)


101 posted on 10/17/2002 9:03:17 PM PDT by ovrtaxt
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To: Betty4Bush
They are no longer His Chosen People.

Well, I am a Christian, and I disagree. God never revoked His Covenenat with Israel, even after He sent His Son.

102 posted on 10/17/2002 9:10:05 PM PDT by sinkspur
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To: Betty4Bush
If avoiding Hell isn't enough "motivation," then I don't know what is! LOL

Your one sentence defines your beliefs I think. There is something that should be more motivating Betty. Don't you know what it is?

It's getting in to Heaven. Don't be too quick to damn people like Moses and every non-Christian out there to hell, you may just be opening the path for yourself with all that judging (let he without sin cast the first stone ring a bell?).

103 posted on 10/17/2002 9:15:04 PM PDT by Shryke
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To: LostTribe
Lost Tribe - read your 3 minute history of the Celtic Israelites and how they populated the world. However you have no sources listed. I can try my own, but don't wish to dig my own rabbit hole if you already have citings I can go to. Thanks.
104 posted on 10/17/2002 9:36:14 PM PDT by txzman
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To: txzman
> I can try my own, but don't wish to dig my own rabbit hole if you already have citings I can go to. Thanks.

Sure, there is lots of stuff available, but IMHO the best single source that gets right down to brass tacks is found at my LostTribe screen name below. Just click on LostTribe and see the reference to the Assyrian Tablets in The British Museum.

That inexpensive book lays out the case, based on the 23,000 clay tablets in the British Museum in London. While they have been there for some time, it is only in recent times that they have been translated and more fully evaluated.

105 posted on 10/17/2002 9:44:51 PM PDT by LostTribe
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To: txzman

Assyrian Tablets in the British Museum.


106 posted on 10/17/2002 9:52:20 PM PDT by LostTribe
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To: Jack Black
you go jack...they will vilify you, though, for using God-given logic in this swirl of competing mythologies
107 posted on 10/17/2002 9:54:16 PM PDT by Vinomori
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To: NBF40
last time I checked the small minority of Jews that actually practice their religion do not accept Christ as Savior.

You are correct; we don't.

108 posted on 10/17/2002 9:56:49 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: tpaine
Billy, it is obvious you don't get the constitutional principle here.

You're attempting to tell me that my job is being an 'athiest'. -- And that yours is to set me straight. I'm not your athiest, and if you persist in that lie, you aren't a Christian, - nor much of an american, -- in any sense of those words.

I think you're putting too much weight on my use of the word "job". I'll rephrase it-- My choice is to share the Message, you're free to respond to it or not.

We all make choices. I've made mine; you've made yours. I think you truly want to believe that Christians want to control other's lives. How boring. My task isn't to set you straight. My task is to set me straight. What you do is up to you.

And I truly see that you're nobody's atheist but your own....

109 posted on 10/17/2002 10:04:05 PM PDT by freebilly
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To: The KG9 Kid
Actually it's not just evangelicals trying to convert the Jews. There are Jews trying to convert the Jews. Ever hear of Messianic Jews? There are alot of them. "Jews for Jesus" and "Chosen People Ministries" are the two largest organizations.

I recently read that the state of Israel is getting concerned and wants to bring back mandatory teaching of one of their books (sorry, I forget which one) because a large number of new recruits into their military wanted to take the oath on the New Testament.
110 posted on 10/17/2002 10:08:23 PM PDT by valleygal
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To: Betty4Bush
Betty, you need to go back and re-read Hebrews if you think Moses is in hell.

Pretty scary theology you've got there....

111 posted on 10/17/2002 10:08:26 PM PDT by freebilly
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To: Jack Black
There you go, interjecting reason and logic into a religious debate. Not very sporting of you :)
112 posted on 10/17/2002 10:09:26 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Jack Black
You might want to look at the book of Jeremiah. God is compassionate and merciful but there are whole books of the Bible that show other attributes of God. Like Joshua and Jeremiah.
113 posted on 10/17/2002 10:14:31 PM PDT by valleygal
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To: Betty4Bush
Hebrews 11:24-26

By faith Moses, when he had grown up, refused to be known as the son of Pharoah's daughter. He chose to be mistreated along with the people of God rather than enjoy the pleasures of sin for a short time. He regarded disgrace for the sake of Christ as of greater value than the treasures of Egypt, because he was looking ahead to his reward....

114 posted on 10/17/2002 10:14:51 PM PDT by freebilly
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To: Betty4Bush
Moses is in Hell. The only way to Glory is by accepting Jesus Christ as your Personal Savior.

I have some news that may shock you, Betty --- Moses lived long, long before Jesus was born. How could he have accepted Jesus if he wasn't born yet? Do you actually believe that every human that died before Jesus preached his gospel is in Hell? ....or are my questions too difficult for your infantile mind to comprehend?

115 posted on 10/17/2002 10:15:10 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: freebilly
I think you truly want to believe that Christians want to control other's lives.

No, I don't ~want~ to believe that of you, I've just responded to what you said, and continue to say.

And I truly see that you're nobody's atheist but your own....

And, as I said earlier, you, -- in calling me an athiest, -- are making an unchristian ass of yourself. Thanks.

116 posted on 10/17/2002 10:17:02 PM PDT by tpaine
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To: frodolives
frodo lives, huh? Did you know that J.R. R. Tokien who wrote "The Hobbit" and "The Lord of the Rings" was a Christian?
117 posted on 10/17/2002 10:20:33 PM PDT by valleygal
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To: Rye
Although Moses lived thousands of years before Christ was born, Christians would see Moses as "justified" or made righteous through his faith in God and his hope in the coming Messiah. He chose to associate himself with those through whom that hope would be realized....
118 posted on 10/17/2002 10:20:42 PM PDT by freebilly
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To: tpaine
And, as I said earlier, you, -- in calling me an athiest, -- are making an unchristian ass of yourself. Thanks.

I thought you proclaimed yourself an atheist on a previous thread. I apologize. I would not call someone an atheist if they hadn't already called themselves one. Sorry if I was in error....

119 posted on 10/17/2002 10:24:02 PM PDT by freebilly
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