To: SauronOfMordor
from thefiringline.com
http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=134951
The whole story
Yes cor-man, it has to do with the sniper shootings.
This evening about 8pm I got a call from a man who claimed to be an FBI agent surveying local gun owners (yeah right). Now this guy called me and started asking questions (I didn't answer BTW) about my lifestyle, what I've done this past week and about my guns. As some of you may know you should NEVER give out any kind of personal info to someone who calls you (too many scam artists out there). Also, I've never done anything wrong so why would the FBI call me? I assume it is someone trolling around until he finds someone willing to devulge info that will let him know who has guns worth stealing. I tell him this is who I think he is, so no I won't tell him about my guns (actually, I tell him I won't tell him IF I have guns, it is none of his business), my daily habits, my travels, etc. I tell him, that even if he is FBI I've done nothing illegal and so it is none of his buisness then either.
Then it gets really interesting. I dial " *69" to find the number he called from and then call the local FBI office to let them know that someone seems to be fraudulently identifing himself as FBI to get sensitive info about who owns guns (and their daily habits). I tell him the kinds of questions the guy asked (very aggressive- like he was trying to intimidate me) and the nice man at the local office told me it couldn't have been the FBI because, first they don't call people like that, and second they wouldn't use such tactics. I give him the number from *69- it is their Montgomery County MD task force ! I tell the guy that I may call back to apologize for my tone then, but I still won't tell him what guns I own or what I did this past week (it is still none of their business) to which he responds "I wouldn't either".
I call the office (though I don't have the agent's name) to find out who called me so I can apologize for my tone. The guy on the phone tells me that there are so many people there that there is no way he can figure out who it was without a name. I tell him the entire situation and he says "oh, wait, I think I know exactly who you talked to" "I'll have him call you back". A couple minutes later the phone rings and its the original guy (pissed as hell at me BTW).
I apologize for my previous tone, tell him that since I've never done anything wrong I couldn't imagine why the FBI would be calling me and reminded him that I had thought that it must have been someone trying to find out who owns what in the area to target homes. He tells me "Its a damn good thing you called. I had dispatched about a dozen local police and two ATF agents to your home."
I ask him how I came to his attention and why he is taking me so seriously (12 police and 2 ATF!!!). He tells me that "you've been buying an awful lot of guns lately haven't you" (btw, I have a fair #, but not like many here). I say that I have some guns but they are all legal so I still don't see the problem. I ask if he actually has a list of my guns (he does), how he got the list (won't tell me). I ask why he called (again). He won't tell me exactly but he then asks what I have been doing the past week. Now I'm getting REALLY mad (but I try to stay calm because I don't really want to go to jail). It becomes pretty clear in our conversatation that he somehow thinks I'm involved in the DC/MD/VA shootings . I then ask that if he has a list of my guns shouldn't he be able to tell that I don't own a .223, you know the round that the media has reported is the one being used. He tells me that many of my forms sent in by my FFLs were incomplete and didn't list the caliber (WHAT- who was the incompetent who sent the gov't an incomplete form and why is this the first I've heard about it, and I thought they weren't supposed to be used as registration/tracking/etc). Now he is clearly getting mad (and hinting that he won't call off the team he has coming for me). He DEMANDS to know what I've been up to the past week. I tell him that I've been home sometimes, at work sometimes, in Yeshiva sometimes and shopping sometimes (I know I shouldn't have said anything, but I'm tired, annoyed, a bit nervous, etc so I wasn't thinking straight). He then gets even angrier and threatens me with jail if I don't give him the answers he wants. I say it would help if he was more specific then. He asks where I was Fri morning (the time of the last shooting). I tell him I was at home. Now he's even madder (odd, I've just given him a specific answer like he wanted- once he gave a specific question). He wants to know if anyone can verify this (luckily my dad was home at the time- yes I currently live w/ my parents). He then ORDERS me to put my dad on the phone (luckily he was here) and tells me that if he doesn't verify my story exactly I should "be prepared to take a trip at around 11PM." My dad answers all his questions (incl. his birthday and why he was at home and not at work), I get the impression he was very hostile w/ my dad (he was shaking) and he kept telling my dad I have lots of guns (some of you may remember that my parents, esp. my dad, are strongly anti). Then they hung up.
To: Britton J Wingfield
Who was "he" Name, rank, serial number.
14 posted on
10/17/2002 1:12:00 PM PDT by
bert
To: Britton J Wingfield
You've got a lot of self-control. When he asked me where I was on Friday morning, I would have told him, "Out with a couple of my guns, hunting for some @sshole who has been shooting people all over the D.C. area."
To: Britton J Wingfield
Whoa...
Welcome to the machine, Comrade. What a lesson in democracy...
29 posted on
10/17/2002 1:29:08 PM PDT by
Thommas
To: Britton J Wingfield
Sounds like this cop has a huge ego problem (alot of them do). It sucks but you have to be nice and cooperate with these guys even though they may piss you off. You already got on the wrong foot when you had that tone on the first phone call. Even though you apologized he must have been fuming and festering the whole time before you called back. He was going to give you a hard time whether you apologized or not. But I think you handled it well and don't worry I think he was scaring you just to see you squirm. I really doubt he would have sent anyone - er - maybe the SWAT TEAM!! ;-).
To: Britton J Wingfield
Your experience illustrates clearly that the authorities will not rest until this entire episode is blamed on a white male. Scary -- very scary.
To: Britton J Wingfield
Dude, I hope you have a good lawyer that you won't need to help you get your firearms back.
To: Britton J Wingfield
Yikes! Time for you to move to another location.
To: Britton J Wingfield
Better stick with the Dark and Stormy night stuff.
To: Britton J Wingfield
Your profile says you're from Arizona. Why do you think they called you who lives so far from DC?
58 posted on
10/17/2002 2:30:32 PM PDT by
M. Peach
To: Britton J Wingfield
My BS meter just pegged.
To: Britton J Wingfield
Tell him to f*ck off and talk to your lawyer. These police-state tactics have no place in the USA.
81 posted on
10/17/2002 6:42:46 PM PDT by
mvpel
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