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LET'S PROFILE THE BELTWAY SNIPER
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Posted on 10/12/2002 5:42:51 PM PDT by genefromjersey

We know the Law Enforcement community uses profiling to get some clue as to the identities and motives of serial killers.

I propose we make up our own profile, based on what we know , and I invite all Freepers , who think they have a useful idea to contribute, to add their thoughts to this post.

I'd like to kick things off with a discussion of the TIMELINE involved in these shootings. What does it suggest to you ?

FIRST DAY

Shooting # 1- 5:20PM , WED,10/02/02
Shooting # 2- 6:05PM , WED,10/02/02

SECOND DAY

Shooting # 3 - 7:41 AM, THURS,10/03/02
Shooting # 4 - 8:12 AM, THURS,10/03/02
Shooting # 5 - 8:37 AM, THURS,10/03/02
Shooting # 6 - 9:58 AM, THURS,10/03/02

Shooting # 7 - 9:15PM THURS,10/03/02

THIRD DAY

Shooting # 8 - 2:30 PM ,FRI, 10/04/02

Fourth Day

Shooting # 9 - 8:09 AM,MON, 10/07/02

Fifth Day

Shooting # 10- 8:18PM, WED,10/09/02

Sixth Day

Shooting # 11 - 9:30 PM ,FRI, 10/11/02

WHO HAS THIS KIND OF "SCHEDULE" ?? Messenger Service Driver ? School Bus Driver ? Hospital Employee ?

Let's see what we can come up with !


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; US: Maryland; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: beltway; identity; sniper
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To: Diogenesis

141 posted on 10/12/2002 7:00:36 PM PDT by SarahW
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To: swheats
I'm not buying into the Al-Queda thing, but what spooks me is the fact that there's more than one perp involved.
142 posted on 10/12/2002 7:00:40 PM PDT by Senator Pardek
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To: Senator Pardek
Is it just me, or doesn't it seem unlikely (yet possible) that a crack shot could be a 16 year old?

Hitting a torso, or even a head, from 100 to 150 yards on a stationary target does not take a "crack shot". I could have done it when I was 16, with my friend's 22 rifle. Without a scope.

At 20, in the Army during my 8 weeks basic training, I qualified as "expert" with the M-1 rifle. Part of the drill was a torso at 800 yards - no scope. A 16 year old may take a few weeks longer.

143 posted on 10/12/2002 7:01:35 PM PDT by jackbill
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To: Senator Pardek
It is quite likely for a teenager/young adult these days to be an excellent shot for one reason: violent video games. A former military psychologist (Grossman) has been clamoring about this for several years. He was appalled to find that the video games kids are playing are almost identical to what is used in the military for training. He points out that many of the school shooters played these games. The games do two things: improve accuracy and desensitize.
144 posted on 10/12/2002 7:02:09 PM PDT by drjulie
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To: Senator Pardek
Joe 6-pack causes a wrinkle in my scenario, if there are rooms involved who's renting the rooms and the vehicles, if they're needed?
145 posted on 10/12/2002 7:03:16 PM PDT by swheats
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To: SarahW
Take a bow...

...excellent!

146 posted on 10/12/2002 7:03:41 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack
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To: SarahW
a.k.a. Aqua-Qaeda indeed. Yup.

The known enemy of the USA should be FIRST on all lists.

147 posted on 10/12/2002 7:04:01 PM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: RandallFlagg
"Unfortunately, I believe the only thing that would deter this would be to pass concealed carry nationwide. I say "Unfortunately" because THAT'S not likely to happen. I'd be REALLY suprised if there will be any sniping in Vermont.

"Just my thoughts...."

I think this is one of the few situations where CCW wouldn't really do much good. Shooter is probably gone (dropped down out of sight, headed for vehicle in other direction) before anyone knows what's happening, and 100+ yards is pretty much out of practical pistol-popping range.




148 posted on 10/12/2002 7:04:12 PM PDT by PLMerite
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To: plain talk
he's a friggin moron.
149 posted on 10/12/2002 7:05:04 PM PDT by smoking camels
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To: jackbill
Har - I guess I'm relying on my own personal experience, as opposed to my brother in Boy Scout camp, who used to hit the clothespins holding up the targets because it was too easy - and I'm talking bolt .22 rifles from prolly WW I (he got kicked off the range, of course.)
150 posted on 10/12/2002 7:05:41 PM PDT by Senator Pardek
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To: drjulie
You're right. Oliver North mentioned some time ago about Marine's, I believe, using similator's or games to practice their shooting. Don't know if I could find the article or not. I remember hearing it so it could have been on talk radio program.
151 posted on 10/12/2002 7:07:57 PM PDT by swheats
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To: PLMerite
I think this is one of the few situations where CCW wouldn't really do much good.

.....I dunno.....

.....the perp would have alot more possible "unfreindlies" to deal with.....

.....(and "we" wouldn't yell freeze before blowing their heads off).....

152 posted on 10/12/2002 7:09:51 PM PDT by cyberaxe
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To: Joe 6-pack
Except I forgot the "l" in Al quaeda. Doh.
153 posted on 10/12/2002 7:11:20 PM PDT by SarahW
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To: drjulie
Video games have no effect at all on shooting skills. They have to be learned with the real thing. Video games develope a person's ability to think fast and use hand controls. That's it. They also don't excercise moral judgement. That's what Grossman was trying to address and focus on, but didn't do so well, because he didn't separate out the fundamentals.
154 posted on 10/12/2002 7:12:10 PM PDT by spunkets
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To: snippy_about_it; twigs
James Buchanan - James "Sonny" Buchanan was known as a man with a big heart who was always ready to help others. The 39-year-old son of a retired Montgomery County police officer

I know its thought that these killings are random. BUT, this one may have be a planned assassination. Getting back at a cop.

O'd like to know if any of the other victims were either related to or GOOD FRIENDS of any of the cops.

But, I see one that just may have been PLANNED.

155 posted on 10/12/2002 7:12:34 PM PDT by ET(end tyranny)
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To: areafiftyone
I can't help but think of that Dirty Harry movie. It starts with a sniper shooting a woman in a swimming pool.
Anyways...
I think between 18 and 29, divorced with kids who live some distance away, ex-wife is employed at or used to go shopping a lot at Michaels, thus the divorce. He loses his job, maybe a dot.commie and can't buy gas to go see them. But he has his house stocked with weaponry just like in the movie "Joe", if you can remember that one.
156 posted on 10/12/2002 7:12:59 PM PDT by Envoy
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To: HitmanNY
***************"A millionaire playboy who has decided to hunt.....the most dangerous game."*************************************

Unarmed men, women, and children are hardly the most dangerous game!

157 posted on 10/12/2002 7:13:21 PM PDT by Chapita
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To: swheats
16 may have difficulty accessing the vehicles...there are plenty of 18-23 y.o. deliverymen, service personnel, etc. Truck rentals in the area would be too easily cross referenced for the days in question. Company vehicles, OTOH, would have to have service routes, calls, deliveries, etc. carefully examined, and as such, may not indicate any discrepancies if the trucks were within normal service areas. A previous poster mentioned the possibility of a vending machine service, which I found intruiging. The thing I've not seen brought up is the possibility of magnetic vehicle signs...relatively cheap w/ professional graphics, if indeed, the truck in question is even related to the shootings which it only seems to be in the most circumstantial of ways at this point.
158 posted on 10/12/2002 7:13:26 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack
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To: All
RED DRAGON- I saw this movie tonight...it was very good. I was surprised though when the cops were profiling the serial killer in the movie and said 'He thinks he's a God' (almost exact words I think)..because he had other peoples lives in his hands. I just thought it was a coincidence.
159 posted on 10/12/2002 7:13:39 PM PDT by Sungirl
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To: snippy_about_it
Link in #67 leads to a map and NOT to the article!
160 posted on 10/12/2002 7:15:28 PM PDT by ET(end tyranny)
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