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13 Year Old Boy Shot Outside Bowie, Md. Middle School, Not Known if Sniper Related
CNN Breaking news ^ | 07 OCT 02 | DCBryan1

Posted on 10/07/2002 5:42:23 AM PDT by DCBryan1

13 year old boy shot infront of school. Police scanners on!


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; US: District of Columbia; US: Maryland; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: 223; maryland; monsters; shooting; sniper
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To: AppyPappy
"It sounds like a serial killer."

That's been my take on it from day 1 also. D@MN I hate getting online first thing in the afternoon and finding tragic news! (Come to think of it, I hate getting online at ANY time and finding tragic news!)

1,261 posted on 10/07/2002 10:20:34 AM PDT by cake_crumb
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To: samuel_adams_us
I find it odd that the public officials in Maryland who hate guns are proving to the public that they cannot protect them and they cannot even catch these people. Just goes to show you that even if you took all the guns away from the law abiding citizens it wouldn't keep you safe from those who don't follow the law. It also shows us all how stupid the anti-gun agenda is.

Which is exactly why all these officials are trying so hard not to tell us what they already know in their guts.

I can understand them not saying definatively that this is related to the other shootings until they have something concrete, but not puting the proper security in place after failing to warn the public is really not very responsible.

1,262 posted on 10/07/2002 10:20:47 AM PDT by Lion's Cub
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To: TomB
Heres the drill. This is exactly the kind of terrorism that over time is very effective. Crashing a plane into a building, while highly visible and effective in killing numerous people, is preventable, and most people do not live or work in large or "terror worthy" buildings. An individual or group of people killing random people doing ordinary daily activities, activities which are necessary for survival ie shopping scares the bejeezes out of people. I live in Mongomery Co, and while i still go about my daily life, whose to say that i wont get gunned down waiting for a bus? If i were a terrorist (im not) this is exactly what i would do. Targeting ordinary, random people breeds fear. Targeting schools, as well as churches and hospitals, places where people assume they will be safe, is exactly how to spread terror. And its next to impossible to stop.
1,263 posted on 10/07/2002 10:21:13 AM PDT by WashingtonCollegeofLaw
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To: newsperson999
'.how about this..every parent who owns a gun should make a 300 yard perimeter around their childs school'

Yes -- And furnish the kids with kevlar helmets and flak jackets. Now that we've imported the enemies of America, and given them all the liberties we enjoy in this country, it's only logical that it should take on the appearance of a battle zone . . .

1,264 posted on 10/07/2002 10:21:59 AM PDT by Crowcreek
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To: Chief Inspector Clouseau
*IF* this is Islamoterrorism (which I think is a strong possibility), why has no one claimed responsibility yet?

Because if it's AQ terrorism, they gain a lot from it being anonymous and seemingly random. Once you've got a perp and a cause, the mystique is gone. Once you claim responsibility, the focus shifts from fear and uncertainty, to anger and "hunt the bastards down." The whole point of the exercise -- which is to set the stage for something else -- is subverted.

1,265 posted on 10/07/2002 10:22:03 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: Chief Inspector Clouseau
Channel 9 TV s reporting the Secret Service is providing manpower to PG County as per plans drawn up after September 11, 2001, and the Secret Service will provide security at some of the schools this afternoon when the children go home.
1,266 posted on 10/07/2002 10:22:04 AM PDT by relee
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To: Shooter 2.5
Since the shooter appears to be hitting his targets, that
rules out the rifle being a mini-14.
1,267 posted on 10/07/2002 10:22:09 AM PDT by JohnYankeeCmpsr
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To: Lion's Cub
Do you think they are competent enough to do so or are they your typical government employees who can't find their butts with both hands?
1,268 posted on 10/07/2002 10:22:29 AM PDT by samuel_adams_us
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To: Clean_Sweep
The tumbling effect was caused by the inadequate stabilization of the 1:14 rifling used in the initial M-16. The current issue uses 1:7 rifling to stabilize a typical 62 to 69 grain round. The 1:7 rifling overstabilizes a 55 gr round pushed to 3150 fps. The guilding can spin off and bullet disintegrate. A 1:9 rifling is just about optimal for .223.
1,269 posted on 10/07/2002 10:22:36 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Capt_Hank
South Carolina! Near the coast. That's it. I have a friend whose mother is from near Florence and she talks almost like that!

When we were young, she picked us up after we went to see King of Kings; in the car on the way home, she asked, "Well, Betty Jo-ah, who be-tray-ad Jee-zus?"

1,270 posted on 10/07/2002 10:22:38 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: harpseal
Several observations from the recesses of a demented mind.

There is altogether too much effort beiiing focused into making this a "spree" killing. They had a "former" FBI profiler say that it would be a 20-30 year old white guy, disenfranchised from society yada..yada..yada.. Then there is the BOLO (Be On LookOut) for 2 hispanic or potentially middle eastern males in a white box van. Notice, the formost reference is to hispanic and not middle eastern. Then there is the choice of vehicle. Did it cross anyones mind that a box van is not the most expeditious of get-away vehicles??? Since these clowns already had murder on their minds, wouldn't a Camero or Mustang be a better choice. Why not just 'jack a speedier vehicle??? Maybe because the box van is packed with ANFO in case they are surrounded???

The real key to this will be if another city starts having similar activity. It is my contention that a message is beng composed and sent. That message is that "we can get you anywhere. You are not safe".

From a more subliminal level, there is going to be the logical liberal backlash that the police cannot protect us, and then when more draconian methodologies are used (as a result to the hue and cry that nothing is being done) then thee will be the "police state" outcry... No, this is a carefully thought out terror campaign.

There is however a wildcard. Like it or not, there are contingents in the US that view a conflagration with glee. These groups are on both the FAR FAR right and the FURTHER left. They could be attempting to instigate a war. That bears consideration.

On a related front, there is the 6 arrests in Oregon et.al.. It is interesting that among the arrested an ex-body guard for Quanel X from the Black muslim movement and an ex assistant to Vera Katz. Does anybody else find the timing interesting???

On my way to my office this AM I heard a story about another shooting at a WalMart. I havn't seen anything on the wires about it yet. But in the newscast, they referenced that boy who had been shot earlier. So it would appear that it is starting.

If I am correct (and I pray that I am not) This is a precursor to a spate of such activity. It would beneit all to remember that Halloween is approaching. Lots of kids on the streets, potential targets for drive-by shootings. Consider the level of panic that could be construed if one or two little ones are shot while innocently trick-or-treating. The PD would be going in multiple directins at once. Two or three shooters in major cities could send the Police infrastructure into fits. If the boy at the school is indeed ties to this, then I look for a very somber and reserved Halloween.

At my police Department, we are mobilizng EVERY officer to be on the streets Halloween night.

I know that this is depressing to think about, but, at some point we have to come to grips with reality. Our adversaries consider us to be sub-human already. Do you ACTUALLY think that they will draw the line at shooting children??? Not bloody likely. This is the same fundmental crowd that has no compunction to bomb schools and buses in Israel.

No, they have publically stated that they were "coming for our children". While I cannot fault the authorities with attempting to forestall a panic and to a larger measure, prevent vigilante attacks on musli and mistaken attacks on Hindu Sihks,

I feel that we, as a nation, must "gird our loins" for war. But, this war will not be the kind that we have become used to on CNN. This is going to be in our streets, at our stores and shopping centers. Appeasement and surrender won't work. Only complete and total anhiliation of our enemy will be the solution.

I am truly sorry if my comments offend the sensiblities of some of our more sensitive Freepers, (spelt "5") but, it is a regretable truth. I have spoken my piece and will now recede back into the lurking mist. I do however give this advice to those FREEPERS who do "give a $hit...."

"Saddle up!"

"Lock and Load!"

"Protect and Survive!"

Semper Fi

1,271 posted on 10/07/2002 10:22:41 AM PDT by Trident/Delta
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To: valleygal
Yes I know he may not be coming across well to some, but blacks I have spoken with are impressed with him. I don't like his "dese" "dat" and "dos" because he doesn't pronounce his th but the guy does have a Ph.d

We are proud of him in MC and hope that we are getting all of the information suitable for the public-no holding back
1,272 posted on 10/07/2002 10:23:16 AM PDT by dagnabit
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To: Chief Inspector Clouseau
why has no one claimed responsibility yet?

Because the operation is still in progress. Why tell the cops to be on the look out for Moose Limbs.

1,273 posted on 10/07/2002 10:24:01 AM PDT by dinasour
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To: Chief Inspector Clouseau
Only Hamas, Islamic Jihad and Arafat's group (Al-Aksa sp?) claim responsibility right away, not Al Queda.
1,274 posted on 10/07/2002 10:24:30 AM PDT by valleygal
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To: Trident/Delta
We are a country by and for the people which means we have the responsibility to protect ourselves and our form of government, not the other way around. It can't work the other way around the anti-gun nuts are to blinded by their utopian thoughts to see that.
1,275 posted on 10/07/2002 10:25:28 AM PDT by samuel_adams_us
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To: tomkat
I live in RICHMOND (VA) and I put off a trip to the craft store... when I heard the shooter was in Fredericksburg...
1,276 posted on 10/07/2002 10:26:31 AM PDT by SarahW
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To: Crowcreek
Hey, you're so quick to critiize, what is YOUR solution???

Semper Curious

1,277 posted on 10/07/2002 10:26:43 AM PDT by Trident/Delta
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To: WashingtonCollegeofLaw
Prayers with you. Lots of us here have family in Montgomery Cty and area.
1,278 posted on 10/07/2002 10:26:59 AM PDT by valleygal
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To: r9etb; valleygal
I get it now...thanks. Given that, I think there's a HIGH probability these are AQ attacks...
1,279 posted on 10/07/2002 10:27:44 AM PDT by Chief Inspector Clouseau
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To: katmom
Well, I know you can get to Michaels from either 301 or Mitchellville road. The actual mailing address for Michaels is Mitchellville Road and Target and Borders are most definately on Mitchellville Road, since they are on the opposite side.

I think of Mitchellville road as being "off 197", probably since I almost always come down 197, and almost never enter from the 301 side.

If someone wanted to go from Michaels to Tasker, I guess they could use either 301 to 50 to 197, or Mitchellville road to 197.
1,280 posted on 10/07/2002 10:28:15 AM PDT by jae471
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