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Professor Rigid on Evolution (must "believe" to get med school rec)
The Lubbock Avalanche Journal ^ | 10/6/02 | Sebastian Kitchen

Posted on 10/06/2002 8:16:21 AM PDT by hispanarepublicana

Professor rigid on evolution </MCC HEAD>

By SEBASTIAN KITCHEN </MCC BYLINE1>

AVALANCHE-JOURNAL </MCC BYLINE2>

On the Net

• Criteria for letters of recommendation: http://www2.tltc.ttu.edu/dini/Personal/ letters.htm

• Michael Dini's Web page:

http://www2.tltc.ttu. edu/dini/

Micah Spradling was OK with learning about evolution in college, but his family drew the line when his belief in the theory became a prerequisite for continuing his education.

Tim Spradling said his son left Texas Tech this semester and enrolled in Lubbock Christian University after en countering the policy of one associate professor in biological sciences.

Professor Michael Dini's Web site states that a student must "truthfully and forthrightly" believe in human evolution to receive a letter of recommendation from him.

"How can someone who does not accept the most important theory in biology expect to properly practice in a field that is so heavily based on biology?" Dini's site reads.

Dini says on the site that it is easy to imagine how physicians who ignore or neglect the "evolutionary origin of humans can make bad clinical decisions."

He declined to speak with The Avalanche-Journal. His response to an e-mail from The A-J said: "This semester, I have 500 students to contend with, and my schedule in no way permits me to participate in such a debate."

A Tech spokeswoman said Chancellor David Smith and other Tech officials also did not want to comment on the story.

At least two Lubbock doctors and a medical ethicist said they have a problem with the criterion, and the ethicist said Dini "could be a real ingrate."

Tim Spradling, who owns The Brace Place, said his son wanted to follow in his footsteps and needed a letter from a biology professor to apply for a program at Southwestern University's medical school.

Spradling is not the only medical professional in Lub bock shocked by Dini's policy. Doctors Patrick Edwards and Gaylon Seay said they learned evolution in college but were never forced to believe it.

"I learned what they taught," Edwards said. "I had to. I wanted to make good grades, but it didn't change my basic beliefs."

Seay said his primary problem is Dini "trying to force someone to pledge allegiance to his way of thinking."

Seay, a Tech graduate who has practiced medicine since 1977, said a large amount of literature exists against the theory.

"He is asking people to compromise their religious be liefs," Seay said. "It is a shame for a professor to use that as a criteria."

Dini's site also states: "So much physical evidence supports" evolution that it can be referred to as fact even if all the details are not known.

"One can deny this evidence only at the risk of calling into question one's understanding of science and of the method of science," Dini states on the Web site.

Edwards said Dini admits in the statement that the details are not all known.

Dini is in a position of authority and "can injure someone's career," and the criteria is the "most prejudice thing I have ever read," Seay said.

"It is appalling," he said.

Both doctors said their beliefs in creationism have never negatively affected their practices, and Seay said he is a more compassionate doctor because of his beliefs.

"I do not believe evolution has anything to do with the ability to make clinical decisions — pro or con," Seay said.

Academic freedom should be extended to students, Edwards said.

"A student may learn about a subject, but that does not mean that everything must be accepted as fact, just because the professor or an incomplete body of evidence says so," Edwards said.

"Skepticism is also a very basic part of scientific study," he said.

The letter of recommendation should not be contingent on Dini's beliefs, Edwards said.

"That would be like Texas Tech telling him he had to be a Christian to teach biology," Edwards said.

Harold Vanderpool, professor in history and philosophy of medicine at the University of Texas Medical Branch at Galveston, said he has a problem with Dini's policy.

"I think this professor could be a real ingrate," Vanderpool said. "I have a problem with a colleague who has enjoyed all the academic freedoms we have, which are extensive, and yet denies that to our students."

Vanderpool, who has served on, advised or chaired committees for the National Institute of Health, the Food and Drug Administration and the Department of Health and Human Services, said the situation would be like a government professor requiring a student to be "sufficiently patriotic" to receive a letter.

"It seems to me that this professor is walking a pretty thin line between the protection of his right to do what he wants to do, his own academic freedom, and a level of discrimination toward a student," he said.

"It is reaching into an area of discrimination. That could be a legal problem. If not, it is a moral problem," Vanderpool said.

Instead of a recommendation resting on character and academic performance, "you've got this ideological litmus test you are using," he said. "To me, that is problematic, if not outright wrong."

William F. May, a medical ethicist who was appointed to President Bush's Council on Bioethics, said he cannot remember establishing a criterion on the question of belief with a student on exams or with letters of recommendation.

"I taught at five institutions and have always felt you should grade papers and offer judgments on the quality of arguments rather than a position on which they arrived."

Professors "enjoy the protection of academic freedom" and Dini "seems to be profoundly ungrateful" for the freedom, Vanderpool said.

He said a teacher cannot be forced to write a letter of recommendation for a student, which he believes is good because the letters are personal and have "to do with the professor's assessment of students' work habits, character, grades, persistence and so on."

A policy such as Dini's needs to be in the written materials and should be stated in front of the class so the student is not surprised by the policy and can drop the class, Vanderpool said.

Dini's site states that an individual who denies the evidence commits malpractice in the method of science because "good scientists would never throw out data that do not conform to their expectations or beliefs."

People throw out information be cause "it seems to contradict his/her cherished beliefs," Dini's site reads. A physician who ignores data cannot remain a physician for long, it states.

Dini's site lists him as an exceptional faculty member at Texas Tech in 1995 and says he was named "Teacher of the Year" in 1998-99 by the Honors College at Texas Tech.

Edwards said he does not see any evidence on Dini's vita that he attended medical school or treated patients.

"Dr. Dini is a nonmedical person trying to impose his ideas on medicine," Edwards said. "There is little in common between teaching biology classes and treating sick people. ... How dare someone who has never treated a sick person purport to impose his feelings about evolution on someone who aspires to treat such people?"

On his Web site, Dini questions how someone who does not believe in the theory of evolution can ask to be recommended into a scientific profession by a professional scientist.

May, who taught at multiple prestigious universities, including Yale, during his 50 years in academia, said he did not want to judge Dini and qualified his statements because he did not know all of the specifics.

He said the doctors may be viewing Dini's policy as a roadblock, but the professor may be warning them in advance of his policy so students are not dismayed later.

"I have never seen it done and am surprised to hear it, but he may find creationist aggressive in the class and does not want to have to cope with that," May said. "He is at least giving people the courtesy of warning them in advance."

The policy seems unusual, May said, but Dini should not be "gang-tackled and punished for his policy."

The criterion may have been viewed as a roadblock for Micah Spradling at Tech, but it opened a door for him at LCU.

Classes at LCU were full, Tim Spradling said, but school officials made room for his son after he showed them Dini's policy.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Philosophy
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I'll bet if Dini's rigid position was in defense of Creationism, this wouldn't just be a local story.
1 posted on 10/06/2002 8:16:21 AM PDT by hispanarepublicana
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To: hispanarepublicana
How is believing the "lie" of evolution going to help one practice sound medicine?..perhaps it trains young doctor on how to kill the unborn or defraud medi-caid and not lose any sleep over it?...
2 posted on 10/06/2002 8:24:00 AM PDT by joesnuffy
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To: hispanarepublicana
"a large amount of literature exists against the theory."

None of it science though. Which is sort of the point.

This anti-evolution thing is like the Clintons. There is an overwealming body of evidence that they are twisted meglomaniacs that care about nothing except power, yet millions of people all over the world think they are decent, caring people.

They don't see the facts because they won't look at them.

3 posted on 10/06/2002 8:25:48 AM PDT by tjg
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To: tjg
They don't see the facts because they won't look at them.

Whether you adhere to this theory or not is your business. What I want to know from you is do you agree with this professor. Not his evolution stance, but his making the "belief" in evolution a requirement.

4 posted on 10/06/2002 8:28:18 AM PDT by rdb3
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To: hispanarepublicana
The policy seems unusual, May said, but Dini should not be "gang-tackled and punished for his policy."

Was Dini subjected to acts of physical abuse? Was he fined or imprisoned? I guess I missed that report.

5 posted on 10/06/2002 8:29:44 AM PDT by Kevin Curry
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To: hispanarepublicana
I think Dini's website has been disabled this morning. Here's what I found in the campus directory, though:

MICHAEL LAWRENCE DINI
ASSOCIATE PROFESSOR

BIOLOGICAL SCIENCES

MS3131
Texas Tech University
Lubbock, TX 79409

Phone: (806) 742-2729
Fax:
Email: MICHAEL.DINI@TTU.EDU
Web:

6 posted on 10/06/2002 8:33:46 AM PDT by hispanarepublicana
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To: joesnuffy
To be a competant Pyysician one must first be a scientist. The consideration of Biblical creation myths over scientific evolutionary theories will result in ineffective medical education.
7 posted on 10/06/2002 8:34:31 AM PDT by bert
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To: hispanarepublicana
"One can deny this evidence only at the risk of calling into question one's understanding of science and of the method of science,"

It's stated a bit baldly, but true. I wouldn't want to be treated by an MD who had tried to get thru med school by resisting the overwhelming evidence of the intimate evolutionary relationship of homo sapiens to other species.

There are some extraordinary advances being made on our "theory" of evolution at this time, such as our understanding that evolution may take place in dischordant leaps rather than imperceptible slow-flow. But unfortunately, none of this scientific progress is coming from the "creationist" school, or sect.

Creationism is a religious freedom, and I support that. But it is, at it's heart, anti-scientific. I really can't understand why it is such a preoccupation with FreeRepublic.

8 posted on 10/06/2002 8:36:45 AM PDT by DJtex
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To: hispanarepublicana
Do Muslims believe in evolution? He he refused to qualify a Muslim, do you think he could get away with it?
9 posted on 10/06/2002 8:38:44 AM PDT by Alouette
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To: tjg
None of it science though.

There is much science, especially statistical/mathematic, against it. That the universe had a beginning--and a mere 12-18 billion years ago--is profoundly powerful evidence in support of Genesis and against Darwin's "just so--something from nothing" stories.

Honest evolutionists far better informed and more intelligent than you privately admit the gross inadequacies of their so-called theory to explain how life got started so quickly in such a young universe. "Negative entropy" (not thermodynamic, but Shannon-informational) is a physical miracle beyond their skills to even begin to explain in any way, shape, or fashion.

You are insufficiently intelligent to know the grave flaws of your own materialist absolutist faith. Or, you lack sufficient understanding. Or both.

You choose.

10 posted on 10/06/2002 8:41:40 AM PDT by Kevin Curry
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To: PatrickHenry; VadeRetro; Junior; jennyp; general_re; longshadow; Physicist
Dini's site also states: "So much physical evidence supports" evolution that it can be referred to as fact even if all the details are not known.

"One can deny this evidence only at the risk of calling into question one's understanding of science and of the method of science," Dini states on the Web site.

Sounds reasonable to me.

11 posted on 10/06/2002 8:43:53 AM PDT by balrog666
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To: DJtex
I believe my greatest issue is with his requirement in the "belief" in order to to get the med school rec. For instance, let's look at the government and property rights. If a student took a property rights class(perhaps as part of a pre-law program), should he be REQUIRED to believe a certain theory about property rights in order to get that professor's recommendation to law school?
12 posted on 10/06/2002 8:44:21 AM PDT by hispanarepublicana
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To: bert
To be a competant Pyysician one must first be a scientist

Can a crucified man who has been dead three days rise and take up his life again?

The physician Luke believed one man could--and did.

13 posted on 10/06/2002 8:48:13 AM PDT by Kevin Curry
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To: balrog666
Sounds reasonable to me . . .

But then, you deliberately chose a name like "balrog666."

I would expect nothing less of you.

14 posted on 10/06/2002 8:49:51 AM PDT by Kevin Curry
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To: balrog666
Would you want your history professor to be a holocaust denier? Being a harmless kook is a right, but it may preclude your ever attaining full competence in certain areas where your kookiness impinges.
15 posted on 10/06/2002 9:00:34 AM PDT by VadeRetro
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To: DJtex
Here's the note I just sent the professor:

Professor Dini,
Given that Biology is a science class, it is interesting that you've placed yourself in a position that makes it unnecessary to address the missing scientific evidence supporting evolution.
The several texts that I've reviewed that purport to provide scientific evidence, instead engage in a mutual admiration society, citing the impressive work of others, none of whom present ANY scientific evidence for their position.
The literature cites adaptation within a species and extrapolates that to indicate evolution from one species to another.
But there is NO evidence to illustrate transition from one species to another.
Recently to meet that challenge, people who call themselves "scientists" have taken to redefine the term "species".
That is ludicrous and self-serving, but it is not science!
Professor, GROW UP and defend your position on the debate using your "scientific" training!
16 posted on 10/06/2002 9:02:12 AM PDT by G Larry
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To: hispanarepublicana
So know we have edicts coming not from churches but from professors, who whined that the church squashed free thinking in the old days. Hypocrites.
17 posted on 10/06/2002 9:03:27 AM PDT by chance33_98
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To: tjg
None of it science though. Which is sort of the point.

Oh, puh-leeze. Evidently you define "science" as something that supports your narrow world-views.

18 posted on 10/06/2002 9:05:23 AM PDT by DallasMike
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To: Alouette
Do Muslims believe in evolution?

You can probably find a few random evolution-deniers of every faith, and even the very rare genuine secular anti-E. That said, they seem to be over 90 percent protestant evangelicals.

19 posted on 10/06/2002 9:08:52 AM PDT by VadeRetro
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To: DJtex
Creationism is a religious freedom, and I support that. But it is, at it's heart, anti-scientific.

You're absolutely correct about that. And, in all fairness, many very famous doctors have believed in evolution and it enhanced their practice trememdously. Not being held back by false creationist beliefs is a plus factor in medicine and medical practice. Dr. Joseph Mengele, a true pioneer in genetic research and experimentation, comes to mind.

20 posted on 10/06/2002 9:09:14 AM PDT by templar
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