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Police Won't Confirm Missing Man Has Shooting Connections (Have YOU seen this man?)
NBC4 News ^ | October 5, 2002 | NBC4 News broadcast, Associated Press

Posted on 10/05/2002 3:56:13 PM PDT by Hail Caesar

Police Won't Confirm Missing Man Has Shooting Connections

Man Is Reportedly Affiliated With White Supremacist Groups

RALEIGN, N.C. -- State police in North Carolina said that they're looking for a former resident -- but won't confirm or deny a connection to a string of killings in Maryland and Washington, D.C.

A Raleigh newspaper, The News and Observer, reports that a Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms has issued a bulletin for Robert Gene Baker III, (pictured, right).

Baker is a former Raleigh resident, but it's unclear when he last lived there. Federal agents said that they believe he's heading south from Washington and may have associates in Virginia and North Carolina.

However, Montgomery County Police Chief Charles Moose said that there is no information that Baker is in North Carolina.

The paper said that the bulletin describes Baker as a drug user affiliated with various militia and white supremacist groups.

The ATF reports says Baker's family members reported him missing on Monday. Moose said Baker's wife was the last to see him. The ATF report doesn't say where his family lives.

At a Saturday morning press conference, Moose stressed that Baker is not a suspect.

"He is not a suspect. He is a missing person," Moose said. "If he is located, the instructions are to please check on his welfare, his well-being."

Moose said if authorities locate Baker they have no reason to arrest him but will determine if Baker is willing to talk to police.

He is white, 5-feet-9 and 195 pounds, with brown eyes, brown hair and tattoos on both arms and back.

He was said to be traveling south in a white 2000 GMC van with dark lettering. The vehicle has a Maryland registration.

The ATF said that Baker is armed with a handgun and high-powered rifle and should be considered armed and extremely dangerous.

Investigators said that the bullets used in three of the five fatal shootings in Montgomery County, Md., and one in Washington, D.C., were all fired from the same weapon.

An agent from the ATF said that tests of the shell fragments yielded the match. Investigators are still analyzing fragments from two other fatal shootings in Montgomery County that police believe are linked to the others.

Investigators say the same weapon was used to shoot a cab driver at an Aspen Hill Mobil station, a woman at a Kensington Shell station, another woman in front of a post office in Silver Spring, and a 72-year-old man walking on Georgia Avenue, just inside the District line.

Police are still awaiting test results from a non-fatal shooting Friday in Spotsylvania County, Va.

Moose said the ATF transported the vehicle that was near the woman when she was shot to be examined.

"We are convinced there are possible evidentiary items in that vehicle," Moose said.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Maryland; US: North Carolina; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: 223; asassin; atf; banglist; fbi; maryland; militia; montgomery; northcarolina; oldnorthstate; shooter; sniper; supremacist; white
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To: Hail Caesar
You're givin' me the chills, dude!


21 posted on 10/05/2002 4:35:31 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: Hail Caesar
Your links in the original post are non-operative.
22 posted on 10/05/2002 4:36:36 PM PDT by browardchad
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To: LaGrone
This is the best I can do:

It's only a likeness, 'ya understand? :-)

23 posted on 10/05/2002 4:42:53 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: browardchad
sorry about that (above)...these should work, now:

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24 posted on 10/05/2002 4:43:03 PM PDT by Hail Caesar
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To: Hail Caesar
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25 posted on 10/05/2002 4:43:44 PM PDT by ffrancone
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To: LibWhacker
I know,I was kidding ya!
26 posted on 10/05/2002 4:46:47 PM PDT by LaGrone
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To: Hail Caesar
The only way this guy is going to get caught by the boob police in Md or DC is if somebody sees him and calls before he can get away
27 posted on 10/05/2002 5:35:18 PM PDT by uncbob
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To: Hail Caesar
Read the article carefully, and you can see from where this linkage of Mr Baker with the Montgomery Co. shootings is coming from. This whole thing appears to have been started by the ATF! Where have we seen this before? Why at both Ruby Ridge, and Waco. The ATF has a history of "embellishing" the recorda, or alleged records of people thay are dealing with on a professional basis. This does NOT pass the smell test!

For that matter, why is the ATF (or even any other Federal agency, when push comes to shove) involved in a local missing persons case?

the infowarrior

28 posted on 10/05/2002 5:46:58 PM PDT by infowarrior
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To: Hail Caesar
Looks a bit like Tom Arnold.
29 posted on 10/05/2002 6:27:46 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty
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To: muawiyah
That can lead us to looking for Identity affiliation, or AlQaida.

It's difficult to tell these turkies apart you know!

Sometimes they work together (Elohim City cult + McVeigh + Nichols + Iraqis).

30 posted on 10/05/2002 6:29:37 PM PDT by agrandis
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To: infowarrior
Who is the man the BATF barbequed in California, for being nutty and telling his neighbors tall tales? I wondered what their jurisdictional duties were there, too.
31 posted on 10/05/2002 6:32:15 PM PDT by agrandis
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To: sheik yerbouty; infowarrior
Chief Moose was just one Geraldo, stated that Baker *isn't* the guy, and that the VA shooting is forensically related. See the live thread

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/763772/posts?
32 posted on 10/05/2002 6:51:17 PM PDT by FreedomPoster
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To: Hail Caesar
The paper said that the bulletin describes Baker as a drug user affiliated with various militia and white supremacist groups.

Media Bias Alert! How do they know this for a fact? Did they ask him?

The guy isn't even charged, much less tried or convicted, and the smearing begins.

33 posted on 10/05/2002 7:22:29 PM PDT by pray4liberty
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To: LibWhacker

Former N.C. Man Located, Not Considered Suspect

A former North Carolina resident who federal authorities had wanted to question about the string of fatal shootings in Montgomery County and D.C. is in police custody.

Moose said Robert Gene Baker III (pictured, left) was located in Fairfax County, Va., and was taken in to custody on an outstanding warrant for auto theft in Florida.

Man Wanted For Questioning In Maryland Shooting Spree

Moose says that Baker is still not considered a suspect in the shootings, but is being questioned. Moose did not elaborate on how or when Baker was taken into custody.

Despite an earlier ATF report that Baker was armed with a handgun and high-powered rifle, Moose said Baker did not have a weapon in his possession when he was taken into custody.

Earlier in the day, The Raleigh news and Observer reported that the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms had issued a bulletin for Baker, a former Raleigh resident. (pictured, right).

The bulletin described Baker as a drug user affiliated with various militia and white supremacist groups.

He was said to be traveling south in a white 2000 GMC van with dark lettering registered in Maryland.

The ATF said Baker's family members reported him missing on Monday. Moose said Baker's wife was the last to see him. The ATF report did not say where his family lives.

34 posted on 10/05/2002 7:45:49 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: agrandis
James Beck was barbequed in his home in Santa Clarita. There were several FD rigs hosing down the neighbors houses, not one drop of water landed on Beck's house. His dogs fried too. His girlfriend got out through the garage door which was then shut again, and the house allowed to burn. The fire started when BATF agents fired teargas into the second story windows. The next day the remains were bulldozed flat.

The offense... telling his neighbors he was a fedral marshall.

35 posted on 10/05/2002 9:00:20 PM PDT by TERMINATTOR
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To: ffrancone
ffrancone -- your message is important, but you're becoming a bore. Could you try a different way of getting your message out? You post the same thing on all the posts;
you're abusing FR....
36 posted on 10/05/2002 9:00:29 PM PDT by Theo
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To: infowarrior
I get your point. However, it is my understanding that the ATF offered their technical "help" with ballistics and firearms identification. Need I say more. ;-)
37 posted on 10/05/2002 9:51:42 PM PDT by Hail Caesar
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To: pray4liberty
I agree. The anti-gun media bias started within minutes of the first shooting Wednesday night. However, they did back off of the usual "profiling" of suspects for almost two whole days.
38 posted on 10/05/2002 9:54:46 PM PDT by Hail Caesar
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To: All
It appears that this suspect Robert Gene Baker III was wanted on felony auto theft charges anyway so it's just as well that he is in jail now, but, he is not considered to have been involved in the recent murders.

So, I guess law enforcement still has quite a lot more work to do on this whole case, which is not even close to being over.


39 posted on 10/05/2002 10:00:04 PM PDT by Hail Caesar
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To: FreedomPoster
Chief Moose, to his credit, never stated Mr Baker was a suspect. This article alone states as much.

The same, however cannot be said of the ATF, which in this article alone ties Mr Baker with an "affiliation" with some unnamed "white supremacist/militia" group, or groups (kind of like Randy Weaver, whose initial "affiliation" with Ayran Nation was that he went to a meeting or two, and didn't like what he saw, but was targeted by the ATF to get a lot closer to them, as their informer). They also took it upon themselves to "declare" Mr Baker "armed and extremely dangerous", and as being armed with a rifle, when at the end of the day, when Mr Baker was taken into custody, he had no weapons.

Remember, the article said that these things came from an ATF field office in North Carolina, which is a far piece from Montgomery County Maryland, so I kind of doubt that a field office in N C was doing "ballistics and firearms identification" work on this case when there are offices closer to the scene which would be the logical ones to be tasked with this. None of this passes the smell test for credibility in any kind of proper investigation...

the infowarrior

40 posted on 10/06/2002 12:42:11 AM PDT by infowarrior
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