Posted on 10/04/2002 12:02:50 PM PDT by Steve0113
Another broad-daylight shooting just occurred, this time in Fredericksburg, VA, just off I-95. It's not even on the news yet.
About an hour's drive south of where the Montgomery County shootings happened, a woman was shot in the parking lot of a Michaels fabric store. My wife was in the store at the time. The victim had left the store and carried her purchases to her minivan. She unlocked the minivan and was loading her stuff into it when she was shot. No sign of the shooter.
No one else was injured.
The woman was taken away in an ambulance, condition unknown. Her license plate (which I'm not going to post) indicated that she had several children.
what do you mean think. They are shooting from concealment, from medium to long range. They ARE snipers. Time to begin deploying our counter snipers, many of whom don't wear uniforms and may or may not ever have served in the military or police forces. Some of them are called deer hunters, other are just "target" shooters ... until something like this happens. The only way these guys are going to be caught, if they've got more than half a brain between them, is to be caught in the act, at which time there ought to be an armed civilian on the scene to end this nonsense RFN! If they change vehicles, even just by painting and changing the plates, law enforcement will have to get very lucky to catch them. And even if they do somehow, proving they are the shooters is going to be tough. They aren't leaving any brass to match to the guns' bolt face and extracter, and as I understand it you can't really match bullets from high velocity rifles to individual guns that fired them.
I hope they get gut shot for this, Islamists or not.
Sounds like a plan, and it's easier too, for those of us who are somewhat ballistically challenged, due to advancing age and declining eyesight and steadness of hand. As well as those like myself who were never very good in the first place. It is too bad that my nephew, either of my brothers in law, their father or their grandfather (in their day of course) can't get within range of these Clymers, although they'd have to gut shoot them on purpose, especially my wife's Grandpa, and he would have too.
Are we assuming there is a vehicle involved in close vicinity??? Do we really know the shots were made from a vehicle???
It sure would be easier to walk away in the confusion...Nobody would notice someone running or walking away..it would be a normal reaction.
I'm glad to see that folks are thinking about these shootings beyond what the news and police and county executive, etc. are reporting. The information they are giving out does not satisfy all the questions I have, especially as I know the area where the cluster of shootings occurred fairly well.
The Michaels, Mobil, car dealer and Leisure World locations are all pretty open spaces, with large expanses of greenspace (grass, stands of trees, pet and people cemetaries, golf course property) facing them from across the roadways. The Shell station is in a little more difficult to describe location, with mostly commercial locations all around, but it does have one side that is at a higher elevation than locations behind it. The Shoppers store (formerly a Hechingers store) is in unrestricted sightline of the Wheaton/Glenmont station of the Montgomery County Police Department; and it also has a direct line to another area of tree cover - although that is a parking lot for some garden apartments, which are adjacent to a regional park and nature center.
In all those locations there is good cover available within shooting range, and the cover area is not far at all from well maintained roads, where one could easily access a vehicle for anonymous escape.
So, while I am not obsessing on the whole thing, I do have to wonder if the police chief and others are misleading the public for some reason (and not necessarily ill-intended) regarding the white Isuzu box truck. My instincts are telling me the truck is not a part of the story. But my instincts have been wrong before.
As to the type of firearm used, I'm not too knowledgeable, but .223 "projectile" is used by more than just hunters of 4-legged prey. It's pretty common round for reaching out and touching things. And alQaida and other Islamist terrorist types are very likely to have trained with rifles that use the round.
so, the shooter has been narrowed down to include: competitive shooters, hunters, military, police, terrorists. Narrowed that right down, didn't I?
The one thing that is certain is that I am very pissed-off by what has happened, and I want the shooter found and killed. And I want all the terrorists-in-training/hiding in the US to be hunted down by the authorities; and I frighten myself when I find myself thinking that I want them to resist when caught so that we won't have to waste taxpayer dollars on a trial.
I ponder all this ugliness today, 15years and 10 hours after I celebrated the birth of my beautiful baby girl, which probably explains why I want anyone who threatens my kids' lives (as these shootings have done) to be killed without mercy.
please
One guy, no not much of a leap. Two guys, as some reports indicated (as well the circumstantial "evidence"), not bloody likely. It doesn't even really fit the one guy gone nuts scenario anyway, because those types tend to bunker up and/or just go in and fire randomly. Then they wait to commit suicide by cop, or just do it themselves.
it is a symptom of Reuters-itis!
Did you notice how close that shooting on Georgia Ave. was to Takoma Park, tgsltakoma?
There's that one in Laurel, isn't there?
Oh Lordy, I'm in trouble now! :) So're the local WalMarts, H.E.Bs and Albertson's groceries and many stop-and-robs in the area, at least the area from The Gulf Coast of Texas as far north as Nebraska, can't say for other locations, although I think I bought one in the Florida Panhandle too.
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