Posted on 10/04/2002 9:46:05 AM PDT by EBUCK
In the words of the Steve the BillBoard guy...
"This is gonna cause a $hit Storm..."
Enjoy
EBUCK
Well, first Native Americans did manage their forests fairly well and used wood to build structures and tools. Second, most lumber companies have "farms" where they marke trees for logging and keep scrub and deadwood clear.
How many forest fires do you hear of in Georgia? Georgia is a huge logging state that have wonderful pine forests. Georgia logging companies keep up their renewable resource as do any logging companies who don't want to run out of lumber within a decade.
all the noise the enviros make about old-growth logging is done to raise money, because the battle is already over and they won years ago.
The big timber companies, in decades past, realized that one way or the other they would some day run out of old-growth lumber. So they advised their customers (home designers, construction companies, architects, building boards, etc.) to start designing around what could be manufactured out of small-diameter, short-rotation cycle timber. Those small-diameter logs are typically less than 20 inches in the butt end. The old-growth logs could be as large as 50 inches.
The building trades started substituting laminated veneer lumber, chipboard, waferwood, engineered floor joists, plastic and cement. So the demand for the old-growth log products shrank. Between the pressure of the enviros and their allies in the federal government, and the shrinking market for old- growth logs, the infrastructure of that industry began to break down. Log loaders, yarding towers and engines suitable for large old-growth log processing have not been manufactured for decades. In the last 15 years, most of such used equipment has been auctioned off and shipped to the tropics, where clear wood is logged and shipped back to America.
When I saw that lightening had struck in the Kalmiopsis Wilderness, I knew that the fire fighters had to stand around the fire and hold their hands and chant "Fire is Good!" until the fire burnt past the boundaries of the Kalmiopsis Wilderness! I predicted that, and those predictions can me be found on my early threads, Oregon is buring or is still burning.
Here is the office Fire Druid Bravo Sierra on the Good fires in the wilderness areas: (Link to the criminally insane Floristry Service, enviral whacko, Fire is Good, Fire is Great policy)
Here are some of the Criminally Insane utterings of the enviralist druids who loved good fires and particuliary ones in the Kalmiopsis Wilderness area, the former wilderness area.
Why is there a need for Wildland Fire Use for Resource Benefits? The objective of this management program is to use "Nature's" ignitions to further an essential ecological process. Fire is a part of the natural process of the forest, some plants and animals depend on it for their survival and regeneration. The natural forest landscape was developed with periodic fires and many species are adapted to fire.
Will fires be allowed to burn outside the Kalmiopsis Wilderness boundary? At this time fires will be confined to the Kalmiopsis Wilderness. In the future a decision considering the values outside the wilderness and the allocations in the Forest Land Management Plan may be made which will allow Wildland Fire Use, if compatible.
Won't Wildland Fire Use be dangerous for recreationists that are visiting the wilderness? No! The area where a fire is burning will be well signed and the recreationists can enjoy other parts of the wilderness without being threatened by a fire. Safe vantage points will be identified where the recreationists can view the fire and resulting ecological process.
One can only thank God that the real forestry people not the pinky wearing floristry service clowns stopped that damn fire as it got outside of the boundaries of the Wilderness Area.
If not Brookings, Gold Beach, Cave Junction, Selma, Crescent City and other communities would have been rurally cleansed by the good fire of the criminally insane enviral nazis.
Here is the last map that was posted on the fire. The Floristry service stopped mapping because this was too embarrassing. The Florist Service Lying Clowns pulled the total burn area back from over 500,000 to to just under 500,000. There are areas still burning. A week ago this Friday I was fishing on the lower Rogue below Agness. You can smell fresh burns. At about noon one week ago, a huge Skiro helicopter took a bucket of water from the river up to the Wilderness Area. That bucket was bigger than my OJ Simpson full size Bronco. As we are leaving about 3 pm, we heard the helicopter making another water run.
Here is the map of the former Kalmiopsis Wilderness Area:
Clearing scrub and thinning forests os exactly what good loggers do. A tree which may be prime this year, but having a crease, fold or other fault which'll not only make it go the other way in a couple of years but probably split (and kill) it in the future are not an expense to the forester who wone the contract, the logger who owns the skidder who sub-contracts to the forester to fulfill that contract, or to the mill which buys the logs and pays them both. In addition, all good loggers know it is in their best interests to ensure they do a good and sound enough job managing a particular stand of acreage to be allowed to come BACK in ten of fiftenn years and log THAT prime wood again.
You are TERRIBLY misinformed.
"Sounds like idealist liberal blather to me. It just ain't gonna happen."
I changed my mind...your ignorance of how the system already works and needs to be expanded is appalling.
...Or in Pennsylvania? PA is a heavily forested, heavily logged state...that would seem to be a contradiction to to an "if you people had your way, there wouldn't be any fires because there wouldn't be any trees" environazi.
PA also has one of the best programs for training specialist teams of forest firefighters in the nation.
Envirlists like you, blocked a request to stop these fires when they were small. (link to Floristry Circus Clowns refusal to allow the Biscuit Fire to be controlled and extinguised due to their love of fire)
Fire officials have acknowledged a request was made to attempt to extinguish the Biscuit Fire when it was only 100 acres, but that request was turned down.
Later, in a few days, three fire fighters were killed in Kali in an accident while trying to control the good fire. If one of those young fire fighters had been my sons or daughter, these florist circus klowns would have been faced with a very angry and revengeful man!
Last year in Washington young fire fighters were killed because the enviral whacko in charge would not allow the heliocopter to drop its water bucket into the stream near those young fire fighters because endanged trout/steelhead were in that stream. I have yet to hear a single word of sorrow from the enviral nazis who spend sleepless nights worry about a pine seedling or some owl that eats dead road kill.
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