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Terror link to Maryland shootings? Experts divided whether killing spree work of al-Qaida
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Friday, October 4, 2002

Posted on 10/03/2002 11:45:15 PM PDT by JohnHuang2

Though al-Qaida training videotapes and manuals captured in Afghanistan specifically show the planning of attacks on Americans in drive-by shootings, experts who have analyzed those materials are cautious about concluding the murder spree outside of Washington yesterday is connected in any way to terrorism.

The videotapes and training manuals, which show Osama lin Laden's terrorists have prepared to kill Americans with small-arms fire from trucks and vans, were first revealed in a WorldNetDaily report last month.

But John Holschen of Insights Training Center, who produced a report on the tape for military and law enforcement officials, said the rash of shootings in a small area of suburban Washington in a short period of time is unusual but not altogether unique.

"It's not inconceivable that this will turn out to be a terrorist attack," he said. However, he cautioned against jumping to any conclusions without more information.

The training video captured in Afghanistan shows al-Qaida operatives practicing the following kinds of assaults:

Skip Gouchenour, a licensed detective in Pennsylvania who has analyzed the videotape and other training materials and made a presentation on them for the Pennsylvania Detectives Association, agreed that the Maryland shooting and murder spree is very unusual.

"I'm not dismissing the possibility of a terrorist connection," he said. "It's strange, indeed."

Gouchenour specializes in investigating murder cases for district attorneys, defense attorneys, police agencies and private citizens. He says he has run across similar murder sprees in his career, but finds some of the details of this case unusual.

Police across the Washington area are searching for what they describe as "a skilled shooter" who killed five people in a random death spree beginning Wednesday night and continuing yesterday morning in Montgomery County, Md.

The shootings took place at two shopping centers, two gas stations and on the lawn outside an auto dealership along Rockville Pike. The victims were ordinary people doing ordinary things on a seemingly ordinary day.

As a result of the attacks, children were kept indoors at schools in the county.

"We do have someone that so far has been very accurate in what they are attempting to do, and so we probably have a skilled shooter," said Montgomery County Police Chief Charles Moose yesterday. Police said they are looking for a small, slightly damaged white truck that may have black lettering on the side. Witnesses to the shootings said they saw a truck matching that description leaving some of the crime scenes.

Montgomery County police spokesman Derek Baliles said police suspect the shooter was armed with a rifle.

About 40 minutes before the first killing, a shot was fired through a window of a Michael's craft store in the 3800 block of Aspen Hill Road. No one was hurt, but Montgomery County police said they believe the incident may have been related to what followed.

The first fatal shooting occurred Wednesday night at 6 o'clock, when James Martin, 55, of Silver Spring was killed in the parking lot of a Shoppers Food Warehouse at Randolph Road and Georgia Avenue in Wheaton. By yesterday morning, the stores in the area were open for business as usual. A security tape from a camera that monitors the lot had been turned over to police.

Then about 7:40 a.m., James Buchanan was pushing a lawn mower over a narrow strip of grass in front of the Fitzgerald Auto Mall on Rockville Pike when he was shot.

The next victim was Premkumar A. Walekar, a part-time cab driver. It was about 8:10 a.m., at a Mobil gas station on Aspen Hill Road at Connecticut Avenue in Aspen Hill, when the killer struck and Walekar died pumping gas.

About 8:30 a.m., Sarah Ramos, 34, was sitting on a bench at the shopping center near the Leisure World retirement community off Georgia Avenue in Silver Spring when the killer next took aim and fired.

It was just before 10 a.m. at a Shell gas station in Kensington and Lori Lewis-Rivera, 25, was vacuuming her minivan. The station, at the corner of Knowles and Connecticut avenues in the heart of Kensington, is visible from all directions. But again the killer struck as if coming from nowhere.

Throughout the day the manhunt intensified, but as night fell there had been no arrests. Though authorities have downplayed the possibility of terrorism, the FBI, Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms and Secret Service have all been involved in the investigation.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; banglist; beltwaysniper; dcsniper; dcsnipers; snipertimeline; snipertraining
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To: 5by5
I agree. With Al Qaeda comms busted up or compromised since 9-11, they may have sent in an outside pro to "jump start" sleepers still out there by example.
381 posted on 10/04/2002 11:35:48 AM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: Travis McGee
Bingo. Might be the same guy.

382 posted on 10/04/2002 11:36:36 AM PDT by 5by5
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To: SLB
LOL ! Yep........

Stay Safe !

383 posted on 10/04/2002 11:36:38 AM PDT by Squantos
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To: JohnHuang2
Any connection to the murders of the Shorts? Same caliber bullets. The guy who killed them appears to be a real nut, and could be on a continuing rampage.

Over the years I've noticed that when one of these wackos goes off, he starts by killing relatives , neighbors, or acquaintances, then branches out to full-fledged random insane killing.
384 posted on 10/04/2002 11:39:14 AM PDT by Palladin
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To: Jeremy_Reaban
It is sad, but I noticed most of the Compost article was about diversity.
385 posted on 10/04/2002 11:40:12 AM PDT by Moonman62
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To: 5by5
Or anybody. If he just came into the USA, someone had to put a gun in his hands, doubtful a foreign visitor could get one quickly on his own.

Look at the mosques.

386 posted on 10/04/2002 11:40:13 AM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: Mat_Helm
Try Gem-tech or any other legitimate manufacturer:
To the best of our knowledge, silencers are legal for private ownership in the following states: AL, AR, AK, AZ, CO, CT, FL, GA, ID, IN, KY, LA, ME, MD, MS, MT, NE, NV, NH, NM, NC, ND, OH, OK, OR, PA, SC, SD, TN, TX, UT, VA, WA, WV, WI, and WY. Additionally, they maybe owned by Class 3 dealers and Class 2 manufacturers (but not individuals) in: CA, IA, KS, MA, MO, and MI.

387 posted on 10/04/2002 11:41:15 AM PDT by antidisestablishment
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To: WRhine
It's one of the reasons I'm going with an inexperienced nutcase. It follows too much like someone who has no idea what he's doing. Snipers use one person to break the glass and another to hit the target.
If the guys with the shotgun that I wrote about would have had something more lethal, it would have played out just like this case.
388 posted on 10/04/2002 11:43:19 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5
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To: Mat_Helm
http://www.mp5.net/info/sbsconr.htm

A lot of states allow suppressors. Not enough, but quite a few.
389 posted on 10/04/2002 11:43:24 AM PDT by flashbunny
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To: Travis McGee
I agree but that is not the issue. Bee**** is discussing the legality of silencers and I am still waiting for someone to indicate any State that allows civilians to own them.
390 posted on 10/04/2002 11:43:29 AM PDT by Mat_Helm
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To: antidisestablishment
Screwed up the link.
391 posted on 10/04/2002 11:44:21 AM PDT by antidisestablishment
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To: Mat_Helm
'Where can you own and use a silencer for civilian purposes without legal trouble?"

You can in Oregon. I know 3 people who own them legally. You pay your 'tax' to the feds. The paperwork sits on a desk back east for about 9 months. You do a personal interview with the local county sheriff. He asks you why you want it and you say "I'm a collector". After you pass federal and local approval, you are legal. Better guard that thing with your life, though.
392 posted on 10/04/2002 11:44:36 AM PDT by Route66
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To: Mat_Helm
I stand corrected........humbly not aware that that many states allow them.
393 posted on 10/04/2002 11:45:59 AM PDT by Mat_Helm
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To: antidisestablishment
Hell just get a crossbow...
395 posted on 10/04/2002 11:47:41 AM PDT by antivenom
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To: Travis McGee
Good observation! If these guys are pros, they won't leave any "vanity" clues like a shape to help in their capture.

Thanks, Travis. This calls for a little Holmesian deductive reasoning ... what is it not?

How and when will their ego overcome their "professionalism"? Unless they're made of high-level twisted steel, there is no doubt in my non-military mind that eventually, some braggin's gonna occur along the road.

I also think they're elsewhere. I also wonder if there is a chain-network of perps, not the same guy traveling around the countryside. Perp #1 shoots in Montgomery Co., contacts #2, who is elsewhere, and then on to (God help us) #3, #4, etc. Traditional single shooter time/distance analysis won't work because they're already in place.

What do you think?

Best...

396 posted on 10/04/2002 11:49:02 AM PDT by bootless
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To: Travis McGee
I thought I had already.

Shot by my careless friends as I approached thru the slough from duckhunting at dusk whilst they were firing off the marlin .22 in my direction not knowing I was wading in earlier than usual. I should have been on my spot waiting for pickup in the swamp.

The bullet entered my ear. Docs surgically removed it and stitched up the damage. I still have a fair amount of tinninitus.

I'm just glad they weren't shooting off the Ruger Number One in .338 that was in the gun rack by the front door of our stilt camphouse. Sadly, the guy who shot me was killed while low flying at that very duck/deer camp a few years later. He also shot himself in the leg quick drawing his .41 mag wheelgun.....at the same camp in the interim. Some folks just come into this world in trouble already.

He was one of my best friends ever....even though he shot me..lol

I went by the old camp down in the Delta 2 months ago. His family had sold it to the Fed Wildlife folks after he was killed there. In Mississippi, it's amazing how quick nature takes back over. After wading thru cottonmouth and gator infested swamps while my wife was in near panic mode wating on the levee...all I could find left of our old camp was a few brick pilings and the swamp had simply swallowed the rest.
397 posted on 10/04/2002 11:54:30 AM PDT by wardaddy
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To: Poohbah
Less to do with the light and more to do with the bullet punching through the glass--heavy enough glass (large windows, for example) will tend to deflect thje bullet slightly.

Yes, either way, I'd think a trained sniper would know this and not bother with trying to assassinate people in buildings. And I guess I'm wondering why the perp tried to do this to begin with. Did the perp figure the glass would shatter in a thousand pieces like in the movies adding to the sick excitement in killing someone? Or did the perp think that he (probably one of the few really good assumptions) would be less likely to be detected by shooting someone through a window? I guess I just find it very interesting that the sniper's tactics changed quickly to just killing people out in the open.

398 posted on 10/04/2002 11:54:59 AM PDT by WRhine
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To: Travis McGee; Poohbah
Here's another "FWIW" I'll throw this out and bow to your expertise.

The window shot. The store hit is in a relatively confined parking lot. If I'm facing the store, the strip mall extends about 7 or 8 store fronts down to the left and then wraps around behind my left shoulder to a large grocery store. To my right is a small line of stores facing out into the parking lot. Behind me, the parking lot is split in half parallel to the Michaels store by a row of trees about 25 feet high and about 20 rows of parking spaces from the store in question. For a sniper, isn't that a little confined? Would that suggest that this fella was quite confident in his ability to disappear? The last I remember, beyond the parking lot is a four lane road about 100 yards out and lots of trees after that.

P.S. - Don't ask me how I know some of these details except to say this heel was young and awfully rambunctious at one point in my life and on occasion strayed a little too far from home.

399 posted on 10/04/2002 11:57:45 AM PDT by Hatteras
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To: Travis McGee
Agreed. Only circumstantial evidence points to a connection. The sniper in Palestine was a cool customer.

Anyone who can shoot five and keep moving without making mistakes is also a pretty cool customer. I'd like to believe that there just aren't that many that could pull it off.

We can all talk about it here matter-of-factly but doing it is an entirely different matter. It's not just training; it seems more likely training AND experience.

400 posted on 10/04/2002 12:05:37 PM PDT by 5by5
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