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Terror link to Maryland shootings? Experts divided whether killing spree work of al-Qaida
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Friday, October 4, 2002

Posted on 10/03/2002 11:45:15 PM PDT by JohnHuang2

Though al-Qaida training videotapes and manuals captured in Afghanistan specifically show the planning of attacks on Americans in drive-by shootings, experts who have analyzed those materials are cautious about concluding the murder spree outside of Washington yesterday is connected in any way to terrorism.

The videotapes and training manuals, which show Osama lin Laden's terrorists have prepared to kill Americans with small-arms fire from trucks and vans, were first revealed in a WorldNetDaily report last month.

But John Holschen of Insights Training Center, who produced a report on the tape for military and law enforcement officials, said the rash of shootings in a small area of suburban Washington in a short period of time is unusual but not altogether unique.

"It's not inconceivable that this will turn out to be a terrorist attack," he said. However, he cautioned against jumping to any conclusions without more information.

The training video captured in Afghanistan shows al-Qaida operatives practicing the following kinds of assaults:

Skip Gouchenour, a licensed detective in Pennsylvania who has analyzed the videotape and other training materials and made a presentation on them for the Pennsylvania Detectives Association, agreed that the Maryland shooting and murder spree is very unusual.

"I'm not dismissing the possibility of a terrorist connection," he said. "It's strange, indeed."

Gouchenour specializes in investigating murder cases for district attorneys, defense attorneys, police agencies and private citizens. He says he has run across similar murder sprees in his career, but finds some of the details of this case unusual.

Police across the Washington area are searching for what they describe as "a skilled shooter" who killed five people in a random death spree beginning Wednesday night and continuing yesterday morning in Montgomery County, Md.

The shootings took place at two shopping centers, two gas stations and on the lawn outside an auto dealership along Rockville Pike. The victims were ordinary people doing ordinary things on a seemingly ordinary day.

As a result of the attacks, children were kept indoors at schools in the county.

"We do have someone that so far has been very accurate in what they are attempting to do, and so we probably have a skilled shooter," said Montgomery County Police Chief Charles Moose yesterday. Police said they are looking for a small, slightly damaged white truck that may have black lettering on the side. Witnesses to the shootings said they saw a truck matching that description leaving some of the crime scenes.

Montgomery County police spokesman Derek Baliles said police suspect the shooter was armed with a rifle.

About 40 minutes before the first killing, a shot was fired through a window of a Michael's craft store in the 3800 block of Aspen Hill Road. No one was hurt, but Montgomery County police said they believe the incident may have been related to what followed.

The first fatal shooting occurred Wednesday night at 6 o'clock, when James Martin, 55, of Silver Spring was killed in the parking lot of a Shoppers Food Warehouse at Randolph Road and Georgia Avenue in Wheaton. By yesterday morning, the stores in the area were open for business as usual. A security tape from a camera that monitors the lot had been turned over to police.

Then about 7:40 a.m., James Buchanan was pushing a lawn mower over a narrow strip of grass in front of the Fitzgerald Auto Mall on Rockville Pike when he was shot.

The next victim was Premkumar A. Walekar, a part-time cab driver. It was about 8:10 a.m., at a Mobil gas station on Aspen Hill Road at Connecticut Avenue in Aspen Hill, when the killer struck and Walekar died pumping gas.

About 8:30 a.m., Sarah Ramos, 34, was sitting on a bench at the shopping center near the Leisure World retirement community off Georgia Avenue in Silver Spring when the killer next took aim and fired.

It was just before 10 a.m. at a Shell gas station in Kensington and Lori Lewis-Rivera, 25, was vacuuming her minivan. The station, at the corner of Knowles and Connecticut avenues in the heart of Kensington, is visible from all directions. But again the killer struck as if coming from nowhere.

Throughout the day the manhunt intensified, but as night fell there had been no arrests. Though authorities have downplayed the possibility of terrorism, the FBI, Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms and Secret Service have all been involved in the investigation.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; banglist; beltwaysniper; dcsniper; dcsnipers; snipertimeline; snipertraining
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To: Shooter 2.5
We had the same thing happen in my town here in Texas. Some kids found a shotgun. Their first target was the backdoor of a store and that reminds me of the first shot at the Michael's store.

Speaking of the first attack at Michael's store I was wondering if the reason the sniper missed the intended target was because of the light refraction the glass pane? I'm not an expert in these matters but IF there is a refraction quality to glass causing the sniper to miss, it could indicate that while the perp is a good shot he may not be as experienced as some people suggest. IOWs, this sicko is not a trained sniper with military training.

In any event, the sniper never again tried shooting people through glass windows, which suggests that the perp suspected that the glass pane, for whatever reason, was why he missed. Which again points to a degree of inexperience notwithstanding all the subsequent open field accurate shots.

361 posted on 10/04/2002 11:19:30 AM PDT by WRhine
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To: twigs
I think that's just a coincidence. I imagine the shooter is driving around looking for targets. Might not have even known the was a police station nearby.

I think that fact that several victims were in gas stations is telling. If the shooter parks a van within 100 yards of a gas station, they're assured of having someone standing still within a minute or two of when they park. People don't stand still very long in all that many places. Gas stations are the exception. ATMs, too, BTW. More traffic at gas stations though and people aren't as "security conscious" as they are at ATMs. ATMs also have cameras. Just thinking aloud here...
363 posted on 10/04/2002 11:23:50 AM PDT by 5by5
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To: Shooter 2.5
I go for an unsuppressed weapon as well, which shows how even loud bagns aren't much help in an urban environment in finding a sniper before he is long gone.
364 posted on 10/04/2002 11:24:58 AM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: aristeides
FedEx is my fictional target stadium, fired east to west into the west end zone upper deck.

Bunches of US Senators and congressmen are first hand witnesses to the massacre, and the law they pass 2 days later is predictable.

365 posted on 10/04/2002 11:26:36 AM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: Poohbah; sneakypete; Travis McGee; Squantos
I love to hear all the talk about subsonic and super sonic rounds. Some of these posters need to realize, the speed of sound is around 343 meters per second depending on air temperature, air pressure (altitude), that comes out to a little over 1100 fps. Which is probably close enough for discussion on this forum. The size of the sound wave made by the object exceeding the sound barrier is in direct proportion to the size of the object. If it wasn't, my .22 long rifle round would shake the windows like an F-14 passing overhead. Granted, a .22 makes passing close by will get your attention (unless you are poohbah :-) )
366 posted on 10/04/2002 11:27:10 AM PDT by SLB
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To: bootless
Good observation! If these guys are pros, they won't leave any "vanity" clues like a shape to help in their capture.
367 posted on 10/04/2002 11:28:00 AM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: 5by5
VERY good thinking aloud I will add.
368 posted on 10/04/2002 11:29:16 AM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: WRhine
Good observation about the window deflection shot indicating he is "learning on the job", ie not a trained sniper who would not have wasted that shot.
369 posted on 10/04/2002 11:30:38 AM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: Beelzebubba
You are perpetuating the myth that sound supressors are illegal. They are manufactured and sold to citizens to this very day. There is a $200 transfer tax and a bit of paperwork, but that's about it.

Most every State does not allow them at all unless for military of LEO. I say most states because I am not aware of any state that does allow a civilian to have one in their possesion. Is there a state that allows civilian use?

The BATF is involved with federal law which allows silencers and automatic weapons with the licence and tax as well until the Brady law placed further restriction.

Where can you own and use a silencer for civilian purposes without legal trouble?

370 posted on 10/04/2002 11:31:12 AM PDT by Mat_Helm
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To: wardaddy
First hand observation? You'll have to tell us about it sometime! OUCH!
371 posted on 10/04/2002 11:31:35 AM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: WRhine
Speaking of the first attack at Michael's store I was wondering if the reason the sniper missed the intended target was because of the light refraction the glass pane?

Less to do with the light and more to do with the bullet punching through the glass--heavy enough glass (large windows, for example) will tend to deflect thje bullet slightly.

372 posted on 10/04/2002 11:31:51 AM PDT by Poohbah
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To: wardaddy
"The nattering nabobs are always on high RKBA bashing alert with the smallest excuse.

It's even more appalling when the anti-gun BS comes from TV females, because they know damn well that the streets are hardly safe for women anymore, and yet, in their feeble minds they think they can just call 911 and some one will be there to save them.

373 posted on 10/04/2002 11:32:34 AM PDT by two23
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To: Mat_Helm
Anyone with a working knowledge of high school physics can build a suppressor in an hour or two after a trip to home depot. It's trivial.

Do you think killers care about gun or suppressor laws?

374 posted on 10/04/2002 11:33:05 AM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: Travis McGee
Good observation! If these guys are pros, they won't leave any "vanity" clues like a shape to help in their capture.

Unless he's trying to write "ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US!" on the map :o)

375 posted on 10/04/2002 11:33:27 AM PDT by Poohbah
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To: Travis McGee
Thanks, Travis. It reminds me of how Gunny Hathcock used to operate. He would only stick around and take multiple shots when his back was covered or he had a good escape route.

When I first heard about the Palistinian sniper a couple of months ago I started thinking "pro" and wondering what would happen if he came to a US city.

This smells like offensive sniper tactics to me.

376 posted on 10/04/2002 11:34:05 AM PDT by 5by5
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To: Poohbah
In the case of .223, the heavy glass will cause the slug to break up and go way off course.
377 posted on 10/04/2002 11:34:10 AM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: Jeremy_Reaban
I don't know if it was terrorists, but from what I've read, it has to be someone who had some sort of advanced markmanship training. 5 people killed from far away with 1 shot each? Police couldn't do that. The average military person couldn't do that.

Thanks,I couldn't have said it better. My first thoughts on this tragedy was it had to be someone of superior marksmanship with some sort of high powered rifle. A hand gun couldn't to this unless close range. And I'm not a fire arms expert. I agree not to jump to conclusions, but we are at war, this is a modus operandi of the terrorists - to create incidents of terror. Is it too much of a jump to connect some dots? Ummm.

Red

378 posted on 10/04/2002 11:34:59 AM PDT by Conservative4Ever
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To: Mat_Helm
You are incorrect.
379 posted on 10/04/2002 11:35:03 AM PDT by wardaddy
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To: Poohbah
"Less to do with the light and more to do with the bullet punching through the glass--heavy enough glass (large windows, for example) will tend to deflect thje bullet slightly.

Most store front windows are "thermo-panes"...two layers of glass with an air space inbetween.

380 posted on 10/04/2002 11:35:09 AM PDT by two23
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