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Terror link to Maryland shootings? Experts divided whether killing spree work of al-Qaida
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Friday, October 4, 2002

Posted on 10/03/2002 11:45:15 PM PDT by JohnHuang2

Though al-Qaida training videotapes and manuals captured in Afghanistan specifically show the planning of attacks on Americans in drive-by shootings, experts who have analyzed those materials are cautious about concluding the murder spree outside of Washington yesterday is connected in any way to terrorism.

The videotapes and training manuals, which show Osama lin Laden's terrorists have prepared to kill Americans with small-arms fire from trucks and vans, were first revealed in a WorldNetDaily report last month.

But John Holschen of Insights Training Center, who produced a report on the tape for military and law enforcement officials, said the rash of shootings in a small area of suburban Washington in a short period of time is unusual but not altogether unique.

"It's not inconceivable that this will turn out to be a terrorist attack," he said. However, he cautioned against jumping to any conclusions without more information.

The training video captured in Afghanistan shows al-Qaida operatives practicing the following kinds of assaults:

Skip Gouchenour, a licensed detective in Pennsylvania who has analyzed the videotape and other training materials and made a presentation on them for the Pennsylvania Detectives Association, agreed that the Maryland shooting and murder spree is very unusual.

"I'm not dismissing the possibility of a terrorist connection," he said. "It's strange, indeed."

Gouchenour specializes in investigating murder cases for district attorneys, defense attorneys, police agencies and private citizens. He says he has run across similar murder sprees in his career, but finds some of the details of this case unusual.

Police across the Washington area are searching for what they describe as "a skilled shooter" who killed five people in a random death spree beginning Wednesday night and continuing yesterday morning in Montgomery County, Md.

The shootings took place at two shopping centers, two gas stations and on the lawn outside an auto dealership along Rockville Pike. The victims were ordinary people doing ordinary things on a seemingly ordinary day.

As a result of the attacks, children were kept indoors at schools in the county.

"We do have someone that so far has been very accurate in what they are attempting to do, and so we probably have a skilled shooter," said Montgomery County Police Chief Charles Moose yesterday. Police said they are looking for a small, slightly damaged white truck that may have black lettering on the side. Witnesses to the shootings said they saw a truck matching that description leaving some of the crime scenes.

Montgomery County police spokesman Derek Baliles said police suspect the shooter was armed with a rifle.

About 40 minutes before the first killing, a shot was fired through a window of a Michael's craft store in the 3800 block of Aspen Hill Road. No one was hurt, but Montgomery County police said they believe the incident may have been related to what followed.

The first fatal shooting occurred Wednesday night at 6 o'clock, when James Martin, 55, of Silver Spring was killed in the parking lot of a Shoppers Food Warehouse at Randolph Road and Georgia Avenue in Wheaton. By yesterday morning, the stores in the area were open for business as usual. A security tape from a camera that monitors the lot had been turned over to police.

Then about 7:40 a.m., James Buchanan was pushing a lawn mower over a narrow strip of grass in front of the Fitzgerald Auto Mall on Rockville Pike when he was shot.

The next victim was Premkumar A. Walekar, a part-time cab driver. It was about 8:10 a.m., at a Mobil gas station on Aspen Hill Road at Connecticut Avenue in Aspen Hill, when the killer struck and Walekar died pumping gas.

About 8:30 a.m., Sarah Ramos, 34, was sitting on a bench at the shopping center near the Leisure World retirement community off Georgia Avenue in Silver Spring when the killer next took aim and fired.

It was just before 10 a.m. at a Shell gas station in Kensington and Lori Lewis-Rivera, 25, was vacuuming her minivan. The station, at the corner of Knowles and Connecticut avenues in the heart of Kensington, is visible from all directions. But again the killer struck as if coming from nowhere.

Throughout the day the manhunt intensified, but as night fell there had been no arrests. Though authorities have downplayed the possibility of terrorism, the FBI, Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms and Secret Service have all been involved in the investigation.


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To: twntaipan; All
***BIZARRE THEORY ALERT***

These shootings took place right next door to DC. Could it be target practice to make sure their aim is true when they go after Bush? I shudder at the thought, but this whole situation is strange.

181 posted on 10/04/2002 8:03:57 AM PDT by dubyagee
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To: Dante3
At this point IMHO it sound like it might be a gang initiation.


I respectfully disagree. Two reasons, the one shot one kill may have been a coincident for one victim, but when there are four dead with one shot one kill, it points to a skilled marksmen. Gang members are not skilled marksmen. The second reason, no witnesses, just a vague possibility of a white trunk. This to me indicates someone who is cool under stress, and does not call attention to themselves by speeding away from the crime scene, again not a major aspect of a street criminal.

With tin foil hat firmly in place, I believe this is the work of a sleeper within our country.

The government is doing all it can to play down the possibility of terrorist acts, and in fact have been doing a good job. I think at one point the terrorist are going to realize to be effective, the American people are going to have to know that they are in fact here. I am afraid they are going to up the ante sometime in the future so that there is no doubt who did the killing.

Unfortunately for them it will not have the desired effect.

182 posted on 10/04/2002 8:04:07 AM PDT by CIB-173RDABN
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To: Fred Mertz
I used pistols for about everything since I was little,even coyotes.

They're easy to pack around if you're loaded down so I just got in the habit and my kids are pretty much the same way.It's just what you're used to.

183 posted on 10/04/2002 8:05:13 AM PDT by Free Trapper
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To: js1138
I heard that on the radio this morning.
184 posted on 10/04/2002 8:06:59 AM PDT by aristeides
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To: RebelDawg
I wish I could find the NRA article about a guy in one of the Western states. He called the NRA to explain that he was getting groups only a couple of inches across using the longer barreled Thompson Contender with his proprietary ammo at ranges like 500 yards. The NRA was dumbfounded until they sent their field representative to have a talk with him.
It was true and the article had the pictures to prove it. I just wish I could remember the date of the magazine.
185 posted on 10/04/2002 8:08:41 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5
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To: 556x45
Not at all...its a trivial shot for someone practiced

BS - a 100yd headshot from a cold barrel is hardly "trivial" - police snipers spend many, many hours on the range to ensure they can make CNS shots at 50-100 yards every time, from supported positions using expensive rifles. And they still sometimes miss when it counts, however infrequently.

186 posted on 10/04/2002 8:09:29 AM PDT by xsrdx
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To: twntaipan
Seems more like the anthrax terrorist writ small.

Interesting -- I was thinking this AM that it was just about a year since the first case was confirmed, and it was -- on October 4, 2001 the photo editor at American Media in Florida was diagnosed.

187 posted on 10/04/2002 8:10:34 AM PDT by browardchad
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To: Brad C.
It is one thing for somebody to flip out and start shooting everyone around them, indicating that the person lost control of himself or the situation.

Like the Texas tower sniper.

It is something altogether different to have a series of killings at different locations and times, indicating that the shooter is very much in control of the situation.

It's unprecedented, as far as I can recall. And that's what makes this particularly frightening.

188 posted on 10/04/2002 8:11:12 AM PDT by Aquinasfan
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To: sam_paine
There's a government line being pushed. The stories about the victims in both Washington papers both have the word "diverse" in their headlines, even though it now appears three of the five were white (plus one Hispanic and one Asian Indian).
189 posted on 10/04/2002 8:12:15 AM PDT by aristeides
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To: null and void
The pattern of the killings makes me think a white van is not involved. The killer/killers backtrack in the same area and kill their last victim an hour and fifteen mins after their fourth kill.

The cops were stopping everyone in a white van, so to think this killer doubled back right in front of them in a white van to take the fifth victim makes me think he wasn't in a white van.
190 posted on 10/04/2002 8:16:59 AM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: spunkets
At the range we are talking about here, I repeat that an AK is just or more accurate as the AR.
191 posted on 10/04/2002 8:17:26 AM PDT by STD
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To: Aquinasfan
It's unprecedented, as far as I can recall. And that's what makes this particularly frightening.

It's also relatively impossible to defend against. You could be out for a stroll with your loaded BAR, safety off and finger on the trigger ready to rock n' roll, and still get whacked.

Snipers are psychologically terrifying, much of the reason they are rarely taken prisoner - snipers expect to be killed if caught.

192 posted on 10/04/2002 8:17:43 AM PDT by xsrdx
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To: JohnHuang2
What we know: the shooter is very good, and likely to be "sane" in a clinical sense. Your average crazy, even with a scoped rifle, is going to miss a fair amount, and this boy is 5 for 5. Additionally, the shooter got away clean--crazies do stupid s**t and get caught quickly.
193 posted on 10/04/2002 8:20:02 AM PDT by Poohbah
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To: STD
I repeat that an AK is just or more accurate as the AR.

Facts don't support your assertion. An AK would be accurate ENOUGH, perhaps, but no AK is capable of the mechanical accuracy of a properly tuned AR15 series rifle.

194 posted on 10/04/2002 8:20:51 AM PDT by xsrdx
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To: FreedomPoster
The only ones with any accuracy that are commonly in the SovBloc arsenal are the Moisin Nagant and the SVD.

The former tends to be more accurate than the latter.

My personal fave: an accurized Remington 700.

195 posted on 10/04/2002 8:20:56 AM PDT by Poohbah
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To: MissAmericanPie
It would be very risky to drive back through the crime scene area swarming with cops in your marked white truck/van. I think you're right. Nobody knows what they were driving.
196 posted on 10/04/2002 8:22:24 AM PDT by backspace
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To: backspace
Nobody knows what they were driving.

agreed.
i've been saying the same thing since yesterday afternoon.

this whole 'white truck' thing is wishful thinking, imho...

197 posted on 10/04/2002 8:28:25 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: SLB
The next victim was Premkumar A. Walekar, a part-time cab driver.

No way Al-Qaeda would shoot a cab driver...

I think it's some whacko like the Mt. Pleasant shotgun murderer. He just drove around and shot people with a shotgun...

198 posted on 10/04/2002 8:35:49 AM PDT by Cogadh na Sith
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To: MissAmericanPie
Which was the shooting at which the white truck was observed?
199 posted on 10/04/2002 8:38:03 AM PDT by aristeides
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To: chookter
I must disagree. AQ has guys active in Kashmir, and they consider Hindus to be unbelievers.
200 posted on 10/04/2002 8:38:28 AM PDT by ko_kyi
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