LOW BIRTH RATE PUTS CANADA ON ROAD TO PERDITION

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[Polycarp]

LifeSite Daily News

Wednesday October 2, 2002

LOW BIRTH RATE PUTS CANADA ON ROAD TO PERDITION

TORONTO, October 2, 2002 (LSN.ca) - A prominent economics reporter with the Globe and Mail is one of the few Canadian opinion-makers to have said anything at all about the failure of Canadians to have children, historically a key sign of a doomed culture.

"Canadian couples are not having enough kids even to replace themselves -- and have not for more than three decades now." "So long as we Canadians don't replace ourselves, we put ourselves on a path that's almost impossible to alter," Little writes. In addition, he challenges the conventional wisdom (shared by all the federal political parties) that immigrants will somehow fill the gap: "More immigration won't change the underlying pattern," Little concludes.

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[xrp]

These guys are going to pay for 20 average citizens' Social Security pensions.

Negative on that...once you reach a certain level of income for the year (somewhere between $70,000 and $90,000) you stop paying the Social Insecurity tax.

[xrp]

Haha...A-men to that, brother.

[rmlew]

True.

However future Demographics are not written in stone. If every married women had 4 children, we would have a postive growth rate without immigration.
If we increade the marriage and fertility rate, we would do even better.

[2TBagger]

It started with the Frenchman Canadian Pierre Trudeau. He shifted immigration from a point system that favoured Europeans to a family reunification system that favours India, Pakistan and China.

[Loyalist]

The current Canadian immigration scheme not only imports masses of unskilled people who burden our overstrained social service networks, but also plays a cruel joke on skilled immigrants.

Many qualified physicians, engineers and other professionals are delivering pizzas and driving cabs because the provincial regulatory bodies require them to take two or three years of refresher courses and sit several rounds of competency exams they are even CONSIDERED for medical residencies or licensing applications.

And that's not just for people with qualifications earned in the Third World.

A family friend's daughter was married to an orthopedic surgeon who had qualified in Slovakia. It was several years before he could land a residency in Nova Scotia as a general practitioner. Another woman I know was qualified as a pharmacist in France but has been repeatedly refused to even write qualifying exams in several provinces.

A classmate of mine--an ex-London Metropolitan policeman with an LLB, LLM and certificate in German civil law--has sat two full years of Canadian law school, and must article again, before he can be called to the Bar in Ontario. And he's probably got the easiest path to requalifying as a professional in Canada.

Yet if I wanted to qualify as a solicitor in England, I would just have to take three courses and a few exams after qualifying for the Bar in Ontario.

These are the lucky ones. The unlucky ones were cruelly set up with promises of professional satisfaction and prosperity and were told to go scrub toilets when they got here.

[weikel]

I like the Far Easterners more kinda introverted but they keep their word.

[weikel]

I agree I like the Russians when I was younger I was extremely suspicious but the ones Ive met have all been wonderful people who have a deep and abiding hatred for all socialism and communism because they used to live under it.

[nickcarraway]

How can they factor that in in a study?

[JoeSchem]

And no one wants to move to Russia. You don't see any illegal aliens trying to sneak in, do you? It's freezing up there.

Actually, they do have an illegal immigration problem, from China and Chechnya to name two examples.

[Barnacle]

Hey, maybe the US can just kinda expand north by default.

That concept is working fine for Mexico.

[Salvation]

By the early 1970s, though, it had fallen below 2.1 in both countries. That's a crucial threshold because it represents the population replacement rate. Allowing for premature deaths, it means each couple leaves at least two kids behind to replace themselves.

This isn't growing; it's only keeping even. The Catholics in the U. S. need to take actions!
from a mother of five!

[JoeSchem]

Honestly, today's illegal immigration is going to be the only thing that keeps us afloat out past about 2025 or so.

Surrendering our nation to illegal immigration hardly seems like 'keeping afloat.' It seems more like jumping overboard.

Illegal immigrants can have a child in the US, and because of the 14th amendment, he/she automatically becomes a US citizen, entitled to all welfare benefits.

How do high welfare rolls help a nation state? If one nation has a hundred million productive citizens, and another nation has a hundred million productive citizens and two hundred million non-productive citizens, which nation is a superpower and which nation is an economic basket case?

The non-illegal-immigrant demographic trend in this country was leaving liberals behind, because conservatives have children and liberals don't. So the liberals commandeered the public schools, to indoctorinate the conservative children. So conservatives took their children out of public schools. So liberals realized the only way they could continue to control elections is to open up the borders to illegal immigrants and allow them and their children to vote.

You think this country will be around in 2025? I think there will be a country located on the continent of North America by the name of 'The United States of America,' but it won't be the United States of America.

[Antoninus]

Wait, I thought "birth control" was a *good* thing? Teddy Roosevelt certainly didn't think so:

On motherhood as the true source of progress, Teddy Roosevelt said:

"A more supreme instance of unselfishness than is afforded by motherhood cannot be imagined."

Before an audience of liberal Christian theologians in 1911, he said:

"If you do not believe in your own stock enough to see the stock kept up, then you are not good Americans, you are not patriots, and ... I for one shall not mourn your extinction; and in such event I shall welcome the advent of a new race that will take your place, because you wil have shown that you are not fit to cumber the ground."

On the centrality of the child-rich family to the very existence of the American nation:

"It is in the life of the family, upon which in the last analysis the whole welfare of the nation rests....The nation is nothing but the aggregate of the families within its borders."

On parenthood:

"No other success in life, not being President, or being wealthy, or going to college, or anything else, comes up to the success of the man and woman who can feel that they have done their duty and that their children and grandchildren rise up to call them blessed."

On out-of-wedlock birth versus practiced sterility:

"After all, such a vice may be compatible with a nation's continuing to live, and while there is life, even a life marred by wrong practices, there is a chance of reform.

In another place, on the same subject:

"...[W]hile there is life, there is hope, whereas nothing can be done with the dead."

On the behavior of 90% of those who practice birth control:

"[It is derived] from viciousness, coldness, shallow-heartedness, self-indulgence, or mere failure to appreciate aright the difference between the all-important and the unimportant."

On the "pitiable" child-rearing record of graduates of women's colleges like Vassar and Smith who bore only 0.86 of a child each during their lifetimes:

"Do these colleges teach 'domestic science'?... There is something radically wrong with the home training and school training that produces such results."

[Antoninus]

The lack of single people of the opposite sex (that would be male) with the guts to ask one out on a date? Otherwise, there are many women in their child-bearing years out there who would be more than happy to help out.

Hey, take the bull by the horns. Get on a Catholic matchmaker internet site and get crackin'. That's how I met my wife, and that's how my sister- and brother-in-law met. The result? Two marriages and two babies (so far!).

[Antoninus]

From what I've seen of Canada, it looks like the left-wing federal government actually discourages the assimilation of immigrants and refugees. Unfortunately, this policy will balkanize and ultimately destroy the country.

Yep. Then we'll have an enemy to the north and an enemy to the south... and two very long, undefended borders. Doesn't bode well for us, does it?

[montag813]

Canada is a disgusting nation of terrorist-coddling, socialism-addicted, Jew-hating skunks. And don't tell me for the 100th time: "just the Liberals...only the Liberals". The Candian PEOPLE are responsible for their disgraceful government. They don't get a pass.

[anniegetyourgun]

And throughout Europe. It's frightening to consider the ramifications for the future.

[Dialup Llama]

The job market may also be a factor, if Canada's younger women and their mates delayed having kids because of greater job insecurity. Youth unemployment rates were similar in both countries in the early 1980s, but have since been consistently higher in Canada. The differences were substantial in the 1990s, when the jobless rate in Canada for those in their early 20s was half to two-thirds higher than the comparable U.S. rate.

The result was lower income for young adults and less of the confidence in the future that is usually needed to take on the responsibilities of parenthood.

Another lecture instructing the peons that they are not making enough worker bees. The demand for sufficient worker bees can never be met because the welfare system is an unsustainable pyramid. Secondly Canadian citizens are being taxed to death and are naturally responding by foregoing children.

Immigration is not a solution because it increases the demand on the welfare system, increasing the burden of taxation upon the net producers.

[johnny7]

The problem is Quebec. Too many french and open borders to people of the middle-east persuasion.

What happened at Concordia University was a crying shame.

Bibi was forced to step down. Nazism is alive and well in hozer-land.

[Poohbah]

Surrendering our nation to illegal immigration hardly seems like 'keeping afloat.' It seems more like jumping overboard.

So's the demographic crash you advocate.

Illegal immigrants can have a child in the US, and because of the 14th amendment, he/she automatically becomes a US citizen, entitled to all welfare benefits.

True. But most of the welfare cases in this country are from good-ol' American citizens of long pedigree. Even illegal immigrant offspring avoid replicating that mistake.

And, if you are correct about conservatives having more kids than liberals, the demographic crash we are having in the absence of immigration indicates that there are far more liberals out there than conservatives. Conservatives simply could not have enough kids to keep America afloat unless they were practicing polygamy.