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IF THEY WEREN'T SERIOUS, THIS WOULD BE HYSTERICAL
The Cigar Show ^ | 2 October 2002 | Chuck Cason

Posted on 10/01/2002 11:16:00 PM PDT by SheLion

The movement to get the Dallas City Council to pass a city ordinance to make ALL establishments 100% smoke free is gaining momentum. They advocate preventing a bar or restaurant owner to make his or her own decision about giving a choice to the customer. They advocate putting into LAW that you can't... CAN NOT... smoke anywhere in the City of Dallas. "Well, how about the cigar bar in Del Frisco's after a big steak dinner?"

Nope. In fact if they get this passed, they might come back and try to get a law passed that we can't eat a big steak dinner because they found a study that suggests that the side-effects of other people enjoying a steak is bad for "the children".

In fact, there is no stopping a group of people organizing, coming up with their own "research", and lobbying to take our rights away because they don't like what others do.

 I know that sounds ridiculous and that is why no normal citizen, who enjoys the rights that people before us fought and died for, ever thinks that anything as absurd as a law to take away any of those rights could be even considered as serious. That is where we have been wrong... dead wrong. It seems that advocates share a certain trait with politicians: they both feel the need to get "involved" with the issue of guiding our citizenry. In the meantime, our citizenry is comfortable knowing that our Constitution is protecting us so we can go about our daily lives working and enjoying life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

Well, guess what? We were wrong.

There is a group in Dallas that is working hard to "ban" smoking in any establishment in the city limits.

They contend a restaurant owner has no business making a decision about his or her own policies. They think that the local government should decide what type of customers they should try to attract. This group has even stooped to the over-done, we-should-do-it-for-the-children-and-if-you-disagree-with-that-you-hate-children tactic.

 They wonder why when they are with their "children" (because after all, they are pro-family... aren't you?) and someone in a restaurant lights up, the government isn't there to protect the health of their family. They wonder why they are expected to make a decision not to go to that restaurant instead of making everyone around them change so they don't have to.

To find the wisdom in our system, it is often necessary to read what our leaders said a long time ago. It was Abraham Lincoln that had words for this situation:

"Those who deny freedom for others deserve it not for themselves".

Let me be clear. I do not smoke cigarettes. They are nasty and dangerous. There are probably many chemicals and poisons that are let out into the air by smoking. But I reserve the right to smoke one day, if I want to. I won't smoke at your church, school, or in your government building. If you don't allow it in your home, I will totally respect that. I won't smoke in your car, or even near you when I can... I am not rude. However, when I choose a restaurant that wants me as a customer so much as to have a section for me, and you want to go there too (because the food and service are great), we have both made a decision based on personal freedom. Since you have made that choice, why is it my fault that you aren't comfortable? Why do you insist that city government get involved to make sure your dining experience is more pleasant? If you walk by a club and the rap music from inside is so loud that it seems offensive, will you go inside? No, of course not, and you wouldn't run to the city council wanting a law against rap music.

You simply wouldn't go. Get it?

I am not even going to start in on the junk science and so-called "surveys" presented as "irrefutable fact" by this poster group for political correctness. I will give you the link to the web site. Twenty years ago this web site would have made a great satirical magazine. It would have shown, in a ironic way, how fanatics try to push their agenda using any scare tactic they can. Sadly, this is not satire. It is a group that will not be content until others behave the way they think they should. It is time for common sense to replace political correctness.

It is time that people realize a perfect world is not formed by laws.

 

Here is the web site. Enjoy. http://smokefreedallas.org/


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Culture/Society; Government; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: antismokers; butts; cigarettes; individualliberty; michaeldobbs; niconazis; prohibitionists; pufflist; smokingbans; taxes; tobacco
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To: ThomasJefferson
Barkers bark.
361 posted on 10/04/2002 8:56:14 AM PDT by Roscoe
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To: Roscoe
More moronic cryptic messages from the king of the liberals.

Tell us again about the second amendment. Tell us again we have no rights to keep and bear arms.

362 posted on 10/04/2002 9:01:41 AM PDT by Protagoras
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To: Whilom
therby avoiding all this messy democracy stuff.

News flash to the authoritarians. We don't live in a democracy. The founders were against it and made sure we didn't have one. It's called ochlocracy. Government by the mob.

363 posted on 10/04/2002 9:04:07 AM PDT by Protagoras
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To: ThomasJefferson
we have no rights to keep and bear arms.

False.

364 posted on 10/04/2002 9:04:33 AM PDT by Roscoe
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To: Roscoe
And cowards cower. And sh-t their pants. And hide behind mobs. Coward.

Tell us about the second amendment again. Tell us again that we have no right to keep and bear arms. Tell us why liberals like you are on this forum.

365 posted on 10/04/2002 9:06:39 AM PDT by Protagoras
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To: Roscoe
It's your position that we have no rights. Don't run away from it now like the coward you truly are.
366 posted on 10/04/2002 9:10:11 AM PDT by Protagoras
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To: ThomasJefferson
we have no rights.

False.

367 posted on 10/04/2002 9:22:11 AM PDT by Roscoe
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To: ThomasJefferson
And cowards cower. And sh-t their pants.

Thanks for sharing.

368 posted on 10/04/2002 9:22:51 AM PDT by Roscoe
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To: Roscoe
Anyone who knows people like you doesn't need to be told. Liberals are cowards, you are no exception.
369 posted on 10/04/2002 9:25:56 AM PDT by Protagoras
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To: Roscoe
Editing comments doesn't fool anyone. All saw your anti-second amendment screed.
370 posted on 10/04/2002 9:27:32 AM PDT by Protagoras
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To: ThomasJefferson
All saw your anti-second amendment screed.

No quote, naturally.

371 posted on 10/04/2002 9:29:28 AM PDT by Roscoe
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To: Roscoe
You denying it?
372 posted on 10/04/2002 9:31:32 AM PDT by Protagoras
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To: Roscoe
To: ThomasJefferson

Hint, the second amendment was written with guys like you in mind.

Thanks!

"To suppose arms in the hands of citizens, to be used at individual discretion, except in private self-defense, or by partial orders of towns, countries or districts of a state, is to demolish every constitution, and lay the laws prostrate, so that liberty can be enjoyed by no man; it is a dissolution of the government. The fundamental law of the militia is, that it be created, directed and commanded by the laws, and ever for the support of the laws." -- John Adams


306 posted on 10/3/02 1:28 PM Central by Roscoe

373 posted on 10/04/2002 9:33:50 AM PDT by Protagoras
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To: ThomasJefferson
"To suppose arms in the hands of citizens, to be used at individual discretion, except in private self-defense, or by partial orders of towns, countries or districts of a state, is to demolish every constitution, and lay the laws prostrate, so that liberty can be enjoyed by no man; it is a dissolution of the government. The fundamental law of the militia is, that it be created, directed and commanded by the laws, and ever for the support of the laws." -- John Adams

Excellent quote!

374 posted on 10/04/2002 9:38:22 AM PDT by Roscoe
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To: Nuke'm Glowing
"My dream world died in 1948 with the re-election of Truman."

Wow! An impressive post...and insight.

Americans have trouble dealing with the fact that 20th C. socialism found a home in America just as in other countries.

Until the young generation twig to this, we are fated to live under the likes of the Kennedys and Clintons, inter alia.
375 posted on 10/04/2002 9:42:20 AM PDT by headsonpikes
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To: Roscoe
It has it's purpose. It exposes your liberal beliefs against the right to keep and bear arms. And just adds more proof that you are a liberal on other issues as well. I'm sure you have been trying to hide it all this time to keep JR from booting your sorry liberal ass off this forum, but the truth is out.
376 posted on 10/04/2002 9:43:25 AM PDT by Protagoras
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To: Whilom
Answering the question would help.

Just how do we distinguish your views from standard totalitarianism?

You and we already know that you share a common rhetoric.

So how do we tell the difference? I'm sure you are not knowingly a chum of Lenin and Hitler, et al.
377 posted on 10/04/2002 9:45:59 AM PDT by headsonpikes
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To: ThomasJefferson
against the right to keep and bear arms

ThomasJacks. A falsehood in every post.

378 posted on 10/04/2002 9:47:48 AM PDT by Roscoe
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To: Roscoe
The truth about yourself is hard to hide anymore. You are a liberal.
379 posted on 10/04/2002 9:57:04 AM PDT by Protagoras
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To: ThomasJefferson
Backwards. Liberals, Libertarians, anarchists and their various comrades despise the rule of law.

"To suppose arms in the hands of citizens, to be used at individual discretion, except in private self-defense, or by partial orders of towns, countries or districts of a state, is to demolish every constitution, and lay the laws prostrate, so that liberty can be enjoyed by no man; it is a dissolution of the government. The fundamental law of the militia is, that it be created, directed and commanded by the laws, and ever for the support of the laws."
-- John Adams

380 posted on 10/04/2002 10:02:23 AM PDT by Roscoe
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