Living dinosaurs

abc.net.au ^ | 9/30/2002

[SteveH]

News in Science

News in Science 30/9/2002 Living dinosaurs

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	Model of Sinosauropteryx sprima (pronounced 'sine-oh-saw-op-te-rix pree-ma')made by Alan Groves working with palaeontologists Drs Walter Boles and Sue Hand.

If we are to believe the message of a new exhibit demonstrating the evolutionary transition from dinosaurs to birds, dinosaurs are not extinct.

Four life-sized reconstructions of ferocious-looking, smart-thinking, flesh-eating feathered dinosaurs – representing 125 million-year-old missing links between dinosaurs and birds – have landed at the Australian Museum in Sydney as part of the Chinese Dinosaurs exhibition.

"The birds we see flying around our backyards are actually living dinosaurs, descendants of prehistoric beasts we all once presumed became extinct 65 million years ago," said museum director, Professor Mike Archer.

"But feathers were evolving as dinosaur attributes long before they became valuable as flight structures," he said.

"Indeed fossils uncovered in the Liaoning Province of China have provided a whole sequence of missing links in the dinosaur to bird story."

Model of Sinornithosaurus smillenii (pronounced 'sine-or-nith-oh-saw-rus mill-en-ee-eye) made by Alan Groves working with palaeontologists Drs Walter Boles and Sue Hand.
 

One of the earlier links is Sinosauropteryx prima. The creature is covered with what looks to be a fine fuzz but are really small barbs – a link between scales and feathers.

"It's a metre-long, meat-eating, ground-dwelling predator, closely related to the dinosaur in Jurassic Park II which ate the little girl on the beach," said Professor Archer.

He speculated these very early feathers were probably for insulation since this group was almost certainly warm blooded.

The Sinornithosaurus millenii (top picture) embodies a later link.

"This is a very vicious little predator about a metre long. But here the feathers are much larger – although they're not fully formed or capable of flight," said Professor Archer.

An interesting characteristic of the creature was its capacity to lift its arms over its head in a flapping motion. Professor Archer said scientists assumed its array of feathers had a purpose – to frighten predators, help capture prey, attract mates or threaten male competitors.

The next stage – the development of feathers for flight – is seen in creatures like the Archseopteryx, a smaller animal than Sinornithosaurus millenii with longer and assymetrical feathers.

While there has been some debate as to whether dinosaurs (unlike other groups of reptiles) are the ancestors of birds, Professor Archer believes since 1996 there has been no strong argument against the hypothesis.

"I don't know anyone who is still holding out on this one," he said. "Other than the creationists of course who don't want anything to be ancestral to birds."

Chinese Dinosaurs is open until February next year. The dino-bird exhibit is sponsored by The Australian Skeptics.

Anna Salleh - ABC Science Online

More Info?

British Natural History Museum Dino-Birds Exhibition

Missing link from fur to feathers – News in Science 27/4/2001

Dinosaur fossil with proto-feathers – News in Science 8/3/2001

Dinosaur-bird theory defended – News in Science 24/11/2000

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[VadeRetro]

If scientists have found anything at all here, it's a few intermediate steps in some design-change process by which birds were created by scientists or engineers, starting with small dinosaurs.

Yet another astounding case where medved used to say the exact same thing before he was banned and you showed up. How does this keep happening?

[Junior]

The velcro-covered skin was an advantage during mating.

Birds of a feather stick together.

[MeekOneGOP]

[Junior]

You know, Ted Holden used to say exactly the same thing ...

[VadeRetro]

And it's not as if that particular cluster of delusions can be found on every street corner, is it?

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[general_re]

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[Sabertooth]

Bunnysaurus Rex...

And I thought my teeth were bad.

[Junior]

Of course, pp will probably claim we're cowards for hiding our identities...

[Virginia-American]

How does this keep happening?

Wasn't one of the former poster's claims that the ancients had telepathy? Maybe it's just an atavism.

[Honcho]

This rare photo of a Hillaryaurus captures the animal in it's most common state, campaign season.

[VadeRetro]

Look at one or two of the images on this thread and ask yourself, assuming any of these creatures ever lived at all, whether you're seeing a glass half full, or a glass half empty.

Or maybe a halfway foreclaw and halfway wing?

[dljordan]

Man! That's GROSS!!!!

[PatrickHenry]

You know, Ted Holden used to say exactly the same thing ...

This new incarnation of Ted is just fine with me. The posts are amusingly nonsensical, and the horrendous torrent of spam essays and whacko links is gone.

[VRWC_minion]

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[balrog666]

This new incarnation of Ted is just fine with me. The posts are amusingly nonsensical, and the horrendous torrent of spam essays and whacko links is gone.

So far anyway.

OTOH, maybe JediGirl should re-register as MrsJediGirl (or JediWoman or NewJediGirl or...) and see if the powers-that-be ignore her too.

[Junior]

Losing a complex capability does not involve any violations of the laws of probability or statistics.

Gaining one doesn't either.

[Junior]

...and the horrendous torrent of spam essays and whacko links is gone.

Just wait. Ted can't help himself. He knows he is the sole receptacle of the knowledge of the origins of life on this planet and it is his self-sworn duty to preach the truth to us lesser lights. PP'll be spraying these threads with medvedian malarky within weeks, if not days.

[Ahban]

Don't Archeopteryx fossils show up from 125 million years ago? While they seem more like another offshoot that died out than a direct bird ancestor, they are far more bird than anything shown in the article.

How could these be the ancestors of birds if bird-like critters were already around filling this niche? How do we know Sinowhatchimcallet is not a survivor of the Archeopteryx line that was LOSING whatever powers of flight the line had rather than gaining it? This would be analogous to the ostrich situation.

Don't you need bird ancestors to show up BEFORE birds do?