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IS CLINTON A WAR CRIMINAL?
The Washington Times

Posted on 09/22/2002 1:22:02 AM PDT by hoosierskypilot

ZAGREB, Croatia. Former President Bill Clinton faces possible war crimes charges by the prosecutor's office at the U.N. tribunal in The Hague for the former Yugoslavia.

As the media remains riveted by the trial of former Serb dictator Slobodan Milosevic, an overlooked but far more consequential case is that of Croatian Gen. Ante Gotovina. The Gotovina case threatens to destabilize Croatia; it also raises the possibility Mr. Clinton and several of his other top administration officials will be indicted by the Balkans war crimes tribunal.

The decision last year by the ruling coalition government in Zagreb to hand Gen. Gotovina over to The Hague tribunal has sparked a political crisis in this small country. While the general remains in hiding, the popularity of Socialist Prime Minister Ivica Racan has plummeted.

Gen. Gotovina was indicted in June 2001 by the prosecutor's office at The Hague on charges that he exercised "command responsibility" over a 1995 military operation that resulted in the expulsion of 150,000 ethnic Serbs from Croatia. Supported by the Clinton administration, Croatian forces launched a massive, three-day military offensive — known as "Operation Storm" — on Aug. 4, 1995, in which Croatia recovered territories occupied by rebel Serbs following the country's drive for independence from Yugoslavia in 1991. Gen. Gotovina is not accused of committing or ordering war crimes, but simply of being in charge when alleged atrocities were committed.

However, by this standard, the Clinton administration is also guilty. Washington provided valuable military and technical assistance to Operation Storm. The Clinton foreign policy team rightly concluded that the only way to tilt the strategic balance of power in the Balkans against the Serbs was to arm and unleash the Croatian army.

Zagreb's lightening military offensive not only restored Croatia's territorial integrity, but more importantly helped to achieve the central goal of American foreign policy in the region: putting an end to Mr. Milosevic's dream of an ethnically pure "Greater Serbia." The operation significantly advanced U.S. interests in the Balkans, helping to pave the way for the Dayton Accords that brought peace to neighboring Bosnia.

Yet U.S. support and approval for the military offensive means the indictment against Gen. Gotovina could lead to the prosecution by tribunal at The Hague of Mr. Clinton and other administration officials on charges of having "command responsibility" for alleged war crimes that were committed during the operation. The prosecutor's office now is examining whether to investigate Mr. Clinton and former Ambassador Richard Holbrooke for their role in Operation Storm. It is only a matter of time before they are made to appear before the tribunal.

The Bush administration has become increasingly concerned with the implications of the Gotovina case for the United States. The State Department is now urging the tribunal's chief prosecutor, Carla Del Ponte, to send cases involving Croatian military officials back to the domestic courts in Zagreb. But Mrs. Del Ponte has refused to cooperate, insisting that Gen. Gotovina be arrested and sent to The Hague.

That would be a mistake. The indictment is deeply flawed and should be dropped immediately. There is no evidence Gen. Gotovina acted improperly or oversaw war crimes. Most of the atrocities committed — the murder of 500 civilians, the looting of property and the burning of 40,000 homes and barns — took place after the operation was completed, when the recovered territories fell under the control of local police.

Moreover, the Gotovina case establishes an ominous precedent for U.S. foreign policy. The importance of Operation Storm was that it served as a model for Operation Enduring Freedom in Afghanistan. The Croatian military acted as the de facto ground troops for the United States in its effort to defeat Mr. Milosevic. A similar approach was taken in the war in Afghanistan. The Northern Alliance provided the bulk of the ground forces during the Bush administration's campaign to topple the Taliban regime from power.

But if the theory of "command responsibility" is upheld in the Gotovina case, then the United States can be made accountable for the actions of its allies around the world. There will be nothing preventing the International Criminal Court from making U.S. officials responsible for isolated criminal acts that have been committed by Northern Alliance troops.

Ultimately, the Gotovina indictment threatens to limit Washington's ability to project its power around the world. In fact, the case is emblematic of the dangers inherent in international tribunals that have little transparency and are not rooted in representative institutions.

There can never be lasting peace and reconciliation in the former Yugoslavia until justice has been done to the victims of the Balkan wars — whether they be Croats, Muslims, or Serbs. There are still plenty of war criminals who remain at large. They deserve to be indicted and sent to The Hague. Neither Mr. Clinton nor Gen. Gotovina are one of them.


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KEYWORDS: balkans; clinton; warcriminal
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1 posted on 09/22/2002 1:22:02 AM PDT by hoosierskypilot
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To: hoosierskypilot
Please come and take Clinton and put him on trial. We'll gladly give him up. Hell, if our own Government won't put him in prison for everything he did while in office, maybe the UN will.

Not holding my breath though.
2 posted on 09/22/2002 1:43:16 AM PDT by Brytani
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To: hoosierskypilot
He is definitely negligent, along with the rest of the peace-mongering nations who meddled with the Balkans. For those who don't remember, or weren't paying attention, here's how it went:

Hey, let's put an arms embargo on a country being fought over by well-armed Serbs and poorly armed Muslims! Maybe that will stop the fighting. Oh dang, the Muslims are poorly equipped, have no means of acquiring more weapons, and are woefully outgunned. Let's send in the UN, to protect the Muslims. Hmmm - fighting isn't over, let's start offering half-baked peace-plans. Ahhh! Now the Croats and Muslims are fighting each other, in addition to the Serbs. Uh oh - massacres in UN safe areas - that didn't work well. Oh hell, let's just bomb these neanderthals to the bargaining table and broker a peace plan that satisfies our interests.
3 posted on 09/22/2002 1:45:50 AM PDT by Schmedlap
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To: hoosierskypilot
Links of Interest:

NewsMax.com: "Clinton Audio Exclusive: Pre-September 11 Bin Laden Strike Wouldn't Have Worked" (August 7, 2002)

stepping back in time....RPC.SENATE.GOV: "Clinton-Approved Iranian Arms Transfers Help Turn Bosnia Into Militant Islamic Base" (011697)

"HUSTLER: The Clinton Legacy" by Joe Sobran

CONGRESS ACTION: "TEAPOT DOME AND NUCLEAR MISSILES" by Mr. Kim Weissman (012002)

WorldNetDaily (Human Events) article by Tim Carney: "U.S. TAX DOLLARS BUILD NUKE PLANT IN CHINA Clinton Deemed Government Loan 'in the national interest'"

"THE YEAR OF THE RAT: How Bill Clinton Compromised American Security for Chinese Money"

"PRESIDENTIAL TREASON 101, 102 & 103" by Gretchen Glass

"DOWNSIDE LEGACY at Two Degrees of PRESIDENT CLINTON"

Office of the Independent Counsel - Ray

NewsMax.com: "OIC: Clinton Can Seek Reimbursement for Whitewater Legal Bills"

Tray.com: "CLINTON LIBRARY DONORS"

Informative Discussion on FreeRepublic.com re: "The Clinton Library Pardons"

Clinton Presidential Center

OpenSecrets.org: "CLINTON'S LEGAL EXPENSE TRUST DATABASE"

US DOJ.gov: "Recent Presidential Pardons" -Roger C. Adams, Pardon Attorney before the Committee on the Judiciary, United States Senate (February 14, 2001)

4 posted on 09/22/2002 1:46:02 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: hoosierskypilot
Is the Pope Polish?

Komrade Klinton's REAL WAR CRIMES ARE THE UNPROVOKED AND COWARDLY BOMBING OF SERBIA IN 1999. THIS CEMENTED HIS UNOPPOSED CLAIM TO BE THE AMERICAN ADOLF HITLER.

But he is much too much of a Euro elitist darling to ever get indicted by an institution whose goal (eradication of national sovereignty) he heartily supports/

5 posted on 09/22/2002 1:47:01 AM PDT by Al Simmons
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To: Al Simmons
Clinton is a war criminal, just like Janet Reno. If there
was justice, both would be given a last cigarette, then
the sheriff would slap the horse's rump and both would
dangle.
6 posted on 09/22/2002 1:59:55 AM PDT by Trickyguy
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To: hoosierskypilot
Maybe we could just give Albright, Burger, Talbot and Cohen to the UN Court. Bill Clinton should be allowed to continue using the rope he has taken in his attempt to build his legacy. The last thing the civilized world needs is a lip-biting, 'I-feel-your-pain' former president in the dock.
7 posted on 09/22/2002 2:00:03 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: hoosierskypilot
Nah, I wouldn't even bother calling him a war criminal. He's just an every-day, run-of-the-mill criminal, who has run the all-time greatest scam on an ignorant public, nothing more than that. A common, low-life scum, propped up by TV cameras. And the cameras ought to be ashamed. But they won't be.
8 posted on 09/22/2002 2:21:47 AM PDT by FlyVet
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To: FlyVet
They will take Clinton and try him as a war criminal over my dead body.
9 posted on 09/22/2002 2:55:16 AM PDT by BillCompton
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To: FlyVet
You got it right. But he will contimue to poison this country through his "wife". One poster got it when he said that the "travelers" might have a base in AK.
10 posted on 09/22/2002 3:06:05 AM PDT by widowithfoursons
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To: widowithfoursons
(continue)
11 posted on 09/22/2002 3:09:55 AM PDT by widowithfoursons
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To: FlyVet
Your post was right on! Clinton got lucky quite often. The best thing we can hope for is that he is recognized as the real white trash he is. Even with all the bad he has done to our country, he did some good, albeit, by accident; he got people like me aware of what is going on in the world. We once-apathetic people got off our duffs and got involved. I doubt that any other president incited so many people into the realm of politics than this guy.
12 posted on 09/22/2002 3:58:06 AM PDT by Jaidyn
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To: Jaidyn
Bush will put an end to the UN war tribunals if they
come after his boy, count on it!
13 posted on 09/22/2002 4:11:45 AM PDT by RS_Rider
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To: hoosierskypilot
Billie Clintoon and his minions should be tried under the RICO statutes, including the members of the Bob and Billie Club (formerly known as the U.S. Senate).

If we could only see the "CLASSIFIED" log book at the repository for evidence of the INDEPENDENT COUNSEL! This log contians the names and times of visits of the participants in the Clintoon IMPEACHMENT FIASCO! Let's see how many of the good, noble Senators actually looked at the evidence before casting their vote for, as Al Bore said, "The Greatest President in the history of the country!"
14 posted on 09/22/2002 4:20:20 AM PDT by leprechaun9
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To: hoosierskypilot
Clinton and his cohorts are certainly despicable. However, under no circumstances can we allow any non US Government body to even contemplate bringing charges against our officials.
15 posted on 09/22/2002 4:21:26 AM PDT by Bill S
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To: hoosierskypilot
"As the media remains riveted by the trial of former Serb dictator Slobodan Milosevic...." Pray tell, where in America is this alleged "....riveted...." exposure to the mockery of 'justice' now taking place in The Hague?

This fish-wrap boiler-plate propaganda is the kind of fallacious poison easily found on the pages of the NY Times. This fact causes one to ponder what kind of blackmail was applied to the Washington Times to force them to ink this blatant first-class distortion under their banner.

In a poor attempt to elicit fear and trembling the article asserts there's "....the possibility Mr. Clinton and several of his other top administration officials will be indicted by the Balkans war crimes tribunal."

Now hold on here.

Let's set the ground rules.

If this should come to pass, as it rightly should, American taxpayers will be made to pay the legal expense for the liar and his gutter-scum lackeys. But here's the rub. If and when it were found the liar had knowledge of and approved of war crimes against defenseless citizens, the American taxpayer should expect the government to recoup all legal expenses from the assets of war criminals pretending to represent America at the time of their crimes against humanity. We should and - as a matter of precedence - we must, collect all legal fees from his assets if his actions exceeded the limited legal authority we extend to the president. Although the president is, in a time of declared war, commander-in-chief of the military, his directives must be consistent with recognized standards of warfare. Acting beyond those standards, without the approval of the taxpayers representatives, must relieve the American taxpayer from any financial or other liability caused by the liar, or his minions.

The writer argues, "The decision last year by the ruling coalition government in Zagreb to hand Gen. Gotovina over to The Hague tribunal has sparked a political crisis in this small country. While the general remains in hiding, the popularity of Socialist Prime Minister Ivica Racan has plummeted."

So what!

The strings to the NATO/UN Croatian puppet ( financed by the taxpaying puppets in America ) are coming unraveled. As expected. This fact has nothing to do with Gen Gotovina. Rather, it has everything to do with a clear absence of domestic autonomy and sovereignty.

"Gen. Gotovina was indicted in June 2001 by the prosecutor's office at The Hague on charges that he exercised "command responsibility" over a 1995 military operation that resulted in the expulsion of 150,000 ethnic Serbs from Croatia. Supported by the Clinton administration, Croatian forces launched a massive, three-day military offensive — known as "Operation Storm" — on Aug. 4, 1995, in which Croatia recovered territories occupied by rebel Serbs following the country's drive for independence from Yugoslavia in 1991."

The Pot Calling The Kettle Black???

The liar and his gang allege Slobodan Milosevic is a war criminal for his attempt to move muslims out of Yugoslavia. Here we find "ethnic cleansing" led by the liar working had in glove with a thug like Gotovina crowned with the title 'general' to accomplish the same deed. Misnamed Called 'Operation Storm', it was actually an iron-fisted 'Operation Stormtroopers', starkly reflective of SS campaigns of terror on innocent men, women and children.

"The Clinton foreign policy team rightly"....?????...."concluded that the only way to tilt the strategic balance of power in the Balkans against the Serbs was to arm and unleash the Croatian army." Here the writer's psychic and creative writing skills are unleashed without shame. He tells us there was a civil war in Yugoslavia, and unlike the English or French in our Civil War, we "....rightly...." move in full-bore in support of an ethnic group {Croatians) attempting to secede from Yugoslavia, to "....restore...." a non-existent 'Croatian' territory.

An unintended consequence of this stupidity gives China standing to assist Mexico in 'restoring' lands now under the American flag. The open holes in this story could swallow a car.

The writer asserts: "The Bush administration has become increasingly concerned with the implications of the Gotovina case for the United States. The State Department is now urging the tribunal's chief prosecutor, Carla Del Ponte, to send cases involving Croatian military officials back to the domestic courts in Zagreb. But Mrs. Del Ponte has refused to cooperate, insisting that Gen. Gotovina be arrested and sent to The Hague."

He then attempts the role of a jurist declaring, "That would be a mistake. The indictment is deeply flawed and should be dropped immediately."

It doesn't matter that the peons reading this garbage haven't been offered a crumb of specific knowledge about the offenses - that would only spoil the story. It would also make clear the 'general' did what we allege in our charges against Slobodan Milosevic. Honest facts have a way of breaking down lies.

The most laughable part of this whole cloth defense of the liar is the writer's miserably failed attempt to marry Operation Stormtroopers to our action in Afghanistan. There is no logical or legal link to action against international terrorists on the one hand, and the intentional interference with the internal civil unrest in a sovereign nation by a liar who would be king. He is, as usual, guilty as sin.

Finally, in his second attempt at reader fear and trembling, the writer suggest, "There will be nothing preventing the International Criminal Court from making U.S. officials responsible for isolated criminal acts that have been committed by Northern Alliance troops."

My association with members of the FR doesn't make me responsible for their actions. But that doesn't stop anyone with a pen from writing bottom dwelling scun sucking editorials masked as news.

MEDIA!
WHAT IS IT GOOD FOR?
ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!!!

16 posted on 09/22/2002 4:34:13 AM PDT by Robert Drobot
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To: Jaidyn; Cindy
Read "Unlimited Access: An FBI Agent Inside the Clinton White House" by Gary Aldrich, if you haven't done so. Only one example of the disgusting Clinton White House. Have your barf bag at the ready. While you're waiting for the book, you can read Cindy's (#4) references until your eyes hurt. That's the nice thing about these threads, there's always someone on top of the stench. They will not escape! :)
17 posted on 09/22/2002 4:39:43 AM PDT by FlyVet
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To: BillCompton
They will take Clinton and try him as a war criminal over my dead body.

Never fear, it'll never happen. He'll never be tried for anything, no matter how many Freepers want it. He's sold his soul to the Devil, and will live a long and prosperous life on this earth. Goat's Head Soup. (After that, I'd rather be me than he.)

18 posted on 09/22/2002 4:53:47 AM PDT by FlyVet
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To: hoosierskypilot
ping for links
20 posted on 09/22/2002 5:03:16 AM PDT by Republican Babe
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