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Keep an eye on this one folks..it could turn more north of hit the US later in the week..some long range models confirm this..

also tropical depression 13 has formed and is foreasted to develop into a hurricane as it moves into the westren Carribean sea in 72 hours.

1 posted on 09/21/2002 3:05:23 PM PDT by newsperson999
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also tropical depression 13 has formed and is foreasted to develop into a hurricane as it moves into the westren Carribean sea in 72 hours.

For sale: property along the gulf coast - cheap. All inquiries responded to real quick! We're outta here.

2 posted on 09/21/2002 3:12:46 PM PDT by toddst
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To: newsperson999; Thinkin' Gal; Prodigal Daughter; babylonian; Fred Mertz; Alouette
Hmmm...a beeline for the ranch at Crawford. There really could be "no cattle" there soon. It is best to bless Israel, really it is. Pray for Bush to repent.
3 posted on 09/21/2002 3:13:13 PM PDT by 2sheep
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To: newsperson999
Here's my kook post. I've been having horrible dreams for two weeks about New Orleans being destroyed. Probably just stress, but if anyone lives there please take care.
4 posted on 09/21/2002 3:13:30 PM PDT by StolarStorm
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This is going to be a fun week in Florida. Good time to short the property insurance companies though. I think I'll place a large order on Monday.
5 posted on 09/21/2002 3:14:38 PM PDT by Nuke'm Glowing
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I found a site that has a plot of all the model positions for Isidore for a few days down the road, including the longer range models. This site also has links to the other two tropical systems (well, technically one is a "subtropical storm," but it is expected to become fully tropical tomorrow). This is getting extremely dangerous....next week could be nightmarish with 3 hurricanes threatening the U.S. They may not be all major hurricanes, but that would be hectic nevertheless. A tropical depression in the middle Atlantic was just named and is forecasted to become a Cat 1 Hurricane in 72 hours...though some models show it becoming a cat 2 at that time. At the same time, the tropical storm (which earlier was supposed to move to the north), is now forecast to move southwest into the Caribbean and become a Cat 1 hurricane.

If all this pans out we could be in for a major week of hurricanes, something which has not happened in several years. This season has been extremely dull, but boy, be careful what you wish for. This has the POTENTIAL....keep that word in mind though....potential....to be a scary week on multiple fronts.


Here is a link to the model forecasts (the official NHC forecast is plotted on the chart also): http://www.wrel.com/modelmap.htm
7 posted on 09/21/2002 3:22:51 PM PDT by rwfromkansas
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Here's the NOAA forecast. This storm will threaten Brownsville and give Tejas a good soaking.

8 posted on 09/21/2002 3:24:32 PM PDT by SBeck
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Here's the one to watch for Florida and the Carolinas. This model probably suggests the mid-Atlantic states.


10 posted on 09/21/2002 3:37:19 PM PDT by SBeck
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I'm convinced. Forecaster Stewart sure seems to have earned his taxpayer-funded pay today.


17 posted on 09/21/2002 4:31:28 PM PDT by Steve Eisenberg
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Hurricane season is over. None of these hurricanes will make it to U.S. mainland - at least as hurricanes. Maybe some windswept rain at best.
18 posted on 09/21/2002 4:39:56 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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I'm sure the vast majority of folks instinctively know this, but it's good to bear in mind that a 150-mph storm is much worse than twice as severe as a 75-mph storm.

For starters, wind force on a surface, as expressed in pounds per square inch, varies as the square of the difference in wind velocity. So a wall, or a window, or a roof is subjected to four times as much force if the wind speed merely doubles.

And, of course, once structures, trees, and so on begin failing, the problem is hugely increased. A window might be able to withstand a 100-mph wind, but not a branch flung into it at 100 mph. And as more windows, roofs, treees and so on become airborne debris, the problem feeds upon itself.

My guess is that a 150-mph hurricane might cause ten times the damage, or more, of a 75-mph hurricane of similar size and duration. And that's without addressing the storm surge, which is also exponentially worse in stronger storms.

This one could get ugly.

117 posted on 09/21/2002 6:49:05 PM PDT by southernnorthcarolina
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Thanks for the 411. Will be heading down to SPI on Tuesday to take care of business. Anyone recognize this wierdo?...L~


131 posted on 09/21/2002 7:06:43 PM PDT by Bad~Rodeo
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i guess this is the ONLY positive to living in nys. we don't get weather like this.
187 posted on 09/21/2002 8:22:07 PM PDT by bandlength
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199 posted on 09/21/2002 8:48:33 PM PDT by Orion78
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Bump
201 posted on 09/21/2002 8:53:16 PM PDT by Fiddlstix
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Here's the 11 pm discussion. The storm has turned somewhat unexpectedly further south and is inland around Merida.



000
WTNT45 KNHC 230237
TCDAT5
HURRICANE ISIDORE DISCUSSION NUMBER  28
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MIAMI FL
11 PM EDT SUN SEP 22 2002

THE CENTER HAS MOVED SOUTH OF THE SHORT-TERM FORECAST TRACK...AND MOVED INLAND OVER NORTHWESTERN YUCATAN A FEW HOURS AGO.  THUS THE CYCLONE IS WEAKENING...AND WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO UNTIL IT MOVES BACK OVER WATER.  ASIDE FROM THE INTERACTION WITH LAND...ATMOSPHERIC AND OCEANIC CONDITIONS REMAIN QUITE FAVORABLE FOR INTENSIFICATION SO THE OFFICIAL FORECAST CALLS FOR ISIDORE TO RECOVER ITS PREVIOUS INTENSITY AND MORE...PRESUMING THAT IT RE-ENTERS THE GULF TOMORROW. THE OFFICIAL WIND SPEED FORECASTS BY DAYS 2 AND 3 ARE BACK TO THOSE SHOWN IN THE PREVIOUS ADVISORY.  HOWEVER...TROPICAL CYCLONE INTENSITY FORECASTING HAS A LOT OF UNCERTAINTIES.  IF THE INNER CORE STRUCTURE IS SEVERELY DISRUPTED BY THE CYCLONES TRANSIT OVER LAND...IT MAY NOT BE ABLE TO RE-INTENSIFY AS MUCH AS ANTICIPATED.

THE FORWARD SPEED APPEARS TO HAVE SLOWED AND CURRENT MOTION IS 
ESTIMATED TO BE A SOUTHWESTWARD DRIFT...220/4.  THE MORE SOUTHERLY 
MOTION WAS PROBABLY THE RESULT OF MID-LEVEL RIDGING TO THE 
WEST-NORTHWEST OF ISIDORE.  GLOBAL MODELS AND THE GFDL HURRICANE 
MODEL AGREE THAT THE SYSTEM WILL TURN BACK TO THE WEST AND NORTHWEST 
WITHIN 12 TO 24 HOURS.  AFTERWARDS...A MID-TROPOSPHERIC RIDGE SHOULD 
BEGIN TO BUILD TO THE EAST OF ISIDORE...WHICH SHOULD INDUCE A MORE 
NORTHWARD MOTION.  NOT MUCH INCREASE IN FORWARD SPEED IS EXPECTED 
UNTIL A MID-LATITUDE TROUGH BEGINS TO AFFECT THE SYSTEM...PROBABLY 
BEYOND THIS FORECAST PERIOD.

THE THREE-DAY FORECAST POINT IMPLIES AN EVENTUAL THREAT TO EITHER 
THE NORTHWEST OR NORTHERN GULF OF MEXICO COAST...HOWEVER IT IS STILL 
TOO EARLY TO BE MORE SPECIFIC ABOUT THE THREAT.

FORECASTER PASCH
 
FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS
 
INITIAL     23/0300Z 20.8N  89.5W    90 KTS
12HR VT     23/1200Z 20.7N  90.3W    80 KTS
24HR VT     24/0000Z 21.0N  91.0W    95 KTS
36HR VT     24/1200Z 21.8N  92.0W   115 KTS
48HR VT     25/0000Z 22.8N  92.5W   125 KTS
72HR VT     26/0000Z 25.0N  93.0W   125 KTS
 
 


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293 posted on 09/22/2002 8:22:39 PM PDT by DaGman
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Let's send aid to Mexico.
294 posted on 09/22/2002 8:27:15 PM PDT by ChadGore
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