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Reno contemplates legal action as count drags on
bradenton.com ^ | September 11, 2002 | Ken Thomas

Posted on 09/11/2002 7:11:34 PM PDT by Bubba_Leroy

Janet Reno contemplated legal action Wednesday as she trailed political novice Bill McBride in Florida's Democratic gubernatorial primary, an election marked by problems reminiscent of the 2000 presidential election.

Counting continued in Miami-Dade and Broward counties Wednesday evening, South Florida strongholds for Reno, who trailed by more than 11,000 votes. Counting also continued in Orange County.

With 99 percent of precincts reporting, McBride had 599,465 votes, or 44.6 percent, compared with Reno's 588,177 votes, or 43.8 percent. Miami Sen. Daryl Jones had 155,699 votes, or 11.6 percent.

Both campaigns said the election would not be decided until at least Thursday morning, when state Division of Elections employees planned to return to work. Counties had until noon Thursday to report unofficial results.

Reno was concerned that election problems prevented hundreds of voters from casting ballots Tuesday in Miami-Dade, where she dominated McBride at the polls. Several polling places opened late, others had computer problems that caused them to close for lengthy periods and some shut down early despite Gov. Jeb Bush's order that extended voting statewide for two hours.

"She's extremely upset about the disenfranchisement," said Reno spokeswoman Nicole Harburger. "People were not allowed their right to vote ... That's unacceptable to her."

The campaign was working with advocacy groups such as the NAACP, the Advancement Fund and local campaigns to collect affidavits from voters who could not cast ballots.

The former U.S. attorney general met with her lawyers and advisers at her Miami Lakes campaign headquarters Wednesday to discuss her options, including whether to demand a recount or sue to overturn the results. A recount would be automatic if the difference between McBride and Reno is less than half a percent of all votes cast.

"At this point I don't want to talk about it until I know what the circumstances are," Reno said of her options.

Her hopes rested on the final tallies from Broward and Miami-Dade counties, which have the most registered voters in the state.

Joe Geller, her campaign attorney, said Reno does not want to hurt the Democratic Party's goal of defeating Bush in November. Bush was unopposed in the Republican primary.

"Any discussion about what's going to happen puts defeating Jeb Bush as the No. 1 consideration," Geller said.

McBride, a Tampa attorney who once led the state's largest law firm, also had discussions Wednesday with several lawyers.

"We'll see what happens," McBride said. "I thought it was going to be close, but I thought it would have been settled by now. I just hope this gets straightened out."

Lawyer David Cardwell, who spoke with McBride, said he is watching the count and Reno's course of action.

"We're in the close monitoring stage," he said. He said he personally didn't think Bush had the legal authority to keep the polling places open past their scheduled closing times, even though McBride supported the governor's decision.

"It was the right thing to do," Cardwell said.

Jones, however, criticized Bush's decision. He said Bush should have allowed extended voting only at precincts where there had been problems.

"It creates a constitutional issue about the election because the polling places that open at 7 a.m. are open for 14 hours and the ones that open late at 11 a.m. are open for 10 hours. So you still don't have equal footing," he said.

Jones said critics who say he might have cost Reno the election by taking black and South Florida voters away from her "have no clue about democracy."

"Anyone who wants to run for office can run," he said.

McBride, who had last run for office at the University of Florida, where he lost an election in a recount, woke up at 6:45 a.m. Wednesday to walk with his wife, Alex Sink, and 50 Tampa fifth graders to a gathering of people waving U.S. flags.

On the way, he said to one of the children, "It was fun last night."

Even if he's ahead when counting ends, McBride may find himself in a similar position to George W. Bush in the 2000 presidential election.

Bush, the governor's brother, wasn't declared the winner until more than seven weeks after the election ended because Al Gore challenged his 537-vote victory. The U.S. Supreme Court eventually halted a recount ordered by the state Supreme Court, thus giving Bush the presidency.

Florida enacted new laws and spent $32 million to reform its election system over the past two years in an attempt to avoid confusion.

"I don't know exactly what the powers I have to do this, but I guarantee you that in November, the election will run much more smoothly than the supervisors of election allowed to occur (Tuesday)," Jeb Bush said Wednesday.


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ROFLOL!

You go girl! Tie up the democRAT nomination for a few more weeks. Lets see how the SCOFLA decide to rewrite the law when it is two democRATs fighting it out.

1 posted on 09/11/2002 7:11:35 PM PDT by Bubba_Leroy
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To: Bubba_Leroy

THIS JUST IN: Janet Reno promises to send more children to Casto,
if she wins.


2 posted on 09/11/2002 7:14:51 PM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: Bubba_Leroy
"She's extremely upset about the disenfranchisement," said Reno spokeswoman Nicole Harburger. "People were not allowed their right to vote ... That's unacceptable to her."

Where is Jessy in all this? I am sure somehow this is Bush's fault. George Bush.

3 posted on 09/11/2002 7:15:33 PM PDT by VA Advogado
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To: Bubba_Leroy
Well, let's hope she has a fool for a client.
4 posted on 09/11/2002 7:16:54 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: Bubba_Leroy
It's better for us if she steals it from McBride...then Jeb'll really stomp her.
5 posted on 09/11/2002 7:18:27 PM PDT by VaBthang4
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To: Bubba_Leroy
"Reno contemplates..."

I am laughing out loud right now. In our house, if a family member is in the bathroom and taking a long time about it; we call that "contemplating." Janet Reno and toilet priorities do amount to pretty much of the same thing --- contemplating.

6 posted on 09/11/2002 7:19:45 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: Bubba_Leroy
First Gore now Reno. These people are cut from the same molds EXCEPT this time it is between two Dems...ya gotta throw your head back and just laugh and laugh and laugh. They are something else. Unbelieveable...just unbelieveable. It should be interesting though...so pull up a chair and "pass the corn."
7 posted on 09/11/2002 7:19:46 PM PDT by cubreporter
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To: VA Advogado
Look a little farther down. Terry Mc is already blaming Bush. He is in serious damage control mode now. The operative Pubbie phrase will be

"These were Democratic voters, in Democratic counties, in elections managed by elected Democratic Election Supervisors. Bush ordered the polls to stay open, but the Democratic Election Supervisors failed to advise their precinct staff. If the Democrats can't manage to operate an election, how can they manage a state government"

Learn it, love it, live it.

8 posted on 09/11/2002 7:19:52 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter
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To: Bubba_Leroy
No matter how this turns out, Jeb Bush benefits. A certain percentage of Dem voters will feel like they wuz robbed and stay home.
9 posted on 09/11/2002 7:19:55 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Bubba_Leroy
Sorry, meant to say cut from the same CLOTH not mold. :)
10 posted on 09/11/2002 7:20:45 PM PDT by cubreporter
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To: Bubba_Leroy
I noticed that McAullife is going down to Florida in an effort to talk Janet into withdrawing. I doubt that he has much of a chance. Janet knows this is her last chance. She will never be featured at a Democratic convention. She will never be anything again.

She figures she has nothing to lose. McAulliffe and the DNC have nothing to offer.

I look for Janet to go all out to win. It would be fun to see this drag out like the Presidency. It will be interesting to see whose side the Florida Supreme Count is on. It would be wild if they come down on Janets side.

11 posted on 09/11/2002 7:21:38 PM PDT by Common Tator
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"People were not allowed their right to vote ... That's unacceptable to her."

Y'mean they actually checked IDs for illegal aliens and convicted felons this time???

12 posted on 09/11/2002 7:22:14 PM PDT by Morgan's Raider
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To: Bubba_Leroy
Ain't it the truth? This is exactly why I would love to see Al and Hillary run against each other in a demo primary. Just think of all the lost documents that would suddenly be found.

Those libs are such wankers.

13 posted on 09/11/2002 7:23:07 PM PDT by alaskanfan
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To: VA Advogado
Here in Miami the 10pm news just said that the score now stands at McBride 45% and Reno 44% with 11% going to Jones the spoiler. Bur for Jones, Reno would've taken the black vote in a walk and won handily. THIS is better! Janet, ever the whining democrat is thinking of going the Gore legal route since "not all the votes were counted." If we're really lucky the ensuing fracas will rip the democratic party into teensy bloody pieces.
14 posted on 09/11/2002 7:25:15 PM PDT by ExSoldier
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To: Bubba_Leroy
Ah, let the dead rest in peace, Janet!!!
15 posted on 09/11/2002 7:25:54 PM PDT by Joee
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"It creates a constitutional issue about the election because the polling places that open at 7 a.m. are open for 14 hours and the ones that open late at 11 a.m. are open for 10 hours. So you still don't have equal footing," he said

And we all know that if Jeb had instead done what Jones is suggesting, Jones would be leading the Democrats in whining how "Some precincts would let those who got off work late vote until 9pm, while those that close at 7pm put late workers there at an unfair disadvantage."

16 posted on 09/11/2002 7:29:24 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Bubba_Leroy
I saw a TV news report on this, and saw a polling place with touch screens. I must say, I *really* don't trust a voting method that fails to leave behind a physical artifact that can be re-counted. Databases can literally be changed at the touch of a button - it's what they're designed to do. Do you trust the security of software vote tabulation?
17 posted on 09/11/2002 7:31:06 PM PDT by FreedomPoster
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To: Bubba_Leroy
It's dejà vu all over again, all but the chads. Go to it! Lay on, MacDuff!
18 posted on 09/11/2002 7:35:29 PM PDT by Cicero
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To: Bubba_Leroy
A little lame-ass Demwit infighting is a prospect that cheers me up. Girl fight!
19 posted on 09/11/2002 7:37:14 PM PDT by jwfiv
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To: Common Tator
The earlier reports said even Janet had a tough time with the push button machines. I'm thinking she would have been better off if she had just brought someone with her to hold her finger still.
20 posted on 09/11/2002 7:37:29 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter
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