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Infant killed in car fire outside school [Mom had gone inside to pick up another child]
Charlotte Observer ^ | Wed, Sep. 04, 2002 | GREG LACOUR

Posted on 09/04/2002 6:04:39 AM PDT by Between the Lines

CONOVER - A 10-week-old baby died in a car that caught fire in a school parking lot Tuesday while the baby's mother was inside the building, picking up another child from an after-school program.

Authorities believe the mother drove into the lot outside Lyle Creek Elementary School in Conover, just east of Hickory, about 3:35 p.m. The mother had two of her children with her: a 3-year-old boy and the infant, in a car seat behind the driver, said Conover police Capt. Steve Brewer.

She left both children in the car while she went inside to fetch her third child, a kindergartner, Brewer said. A few minutes later, the 3-year-old ran into the school building, found his mother and told her the car was on fire, he said. A witness, Tracy Caldwell, said he heard a "faint little boom," turned around and saw fire and smoke coming from the car.

The mother tried to open the car door, but it was too hot; she sustained minor burns on her hands and was taken to nearby Catawba Valley Medical Center, Brewer said. The 3-year-old was unharmed.

Conover police and the N.C. State Bureau of Investigation were trying late Tuesday to determine the origin and cause of the fire, Brewer said. Investigators didn't know whether the car was left running in the lot or where the fire started. No charges have been filed.

The identities of the mother and her children were not released Tuesday night. The infant's gender also was not released.

By evening, SBI agents were closely inspecting the car, a purple Mitsubishi Eclipse parked about 100 feet from a side entrance.

"You see a whole lot of things in this profession," Brewer said, "but you'll never get used to something like this."

Caldwell was one of four N.C. Department of Transportation road workers preparing to go home after a day of planting grass near the school parking lot entrance on C&B Farm Road. Caldwell, also the chief of the Bandys Volunteer Fire Department in southern Catawba County, was walking to his truck when he heard the faint boom, a sound he said he'd heard before in car fires.

"I turned and looked and saw the fire and smoke," he said. "I had my fire walkie (radio) with me, and I called in to communications and said we had a vehicle fire at Lyle Creek Elementary."

He and the other three workers jumped into their trucks and drove to the car, which was quickly engulfed in flames, he said. The workers had fire extinguishers with them, and teachers and other school personnel brought others from inside. "At one point," Caldwell said, "we had fire extinguishers everywhere."

Caldwell said he and the other workers didn't know a child was in the car as they approached it, and he declined to say when they found out.

They got the fire down to a smolder within a few minutes; Caldwell wouldn't say how long it took the workers to get it under control, but Brewer said the fire probably lasted between seven and 10 minutes.

The after-school program, Pryme Time, is run by the YMCA of Catawba Valley. Lyle Creek, which opened last fall, is the only school that has the program.

CEO Gary Hogue said Tuesday that he planned to meet today with his board members to discuss how they might help the family.

"It's hard for us to put ourselves in that family's shoes right now, but we're going to do what we can to help them," Hogue said. "Because we feel we've had a loss, too."


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1 posted on 09/04/2002 6:04:39 AM PDT by Between the Lines
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Where are all the people who were saying last week that parents should never leave their children alone in a car for a single second? Don't they want to put this lady in jail, too?
2 posted on 09/04/2002 6:28:08 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Personally, I don't care how hot the handles were or if I burned my hands off. I'd have tried anyway.
3 posted on 09/04/2002 6:31:39 AM PDT by TheLurkerX
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
In this case, not leaving the child alone seems to have been warranted don't you think?
4 posted on 09/04/2002 6:42:33 AM PDT by Jack of all Trades
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To: Jack of all Trades
In this case, not leaving the child alone seems to have been warranted don't you think?

Absolutely! How many years in prison do you think would be appropriate?

5 posted on 09/04/2002 6:45:30 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: TheLurkerX
Personally, I don't care how hot the handles were or if I burned my hands off. I'd have tried anyway.

It's a shame you weren't there to prove it.

6 posted on 09/04/2002 6:46:07 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Where are all the people who were saying last week that parents should never leave their children alone in a car for a single second? Don't they want to put this lady in jail, too?

I was wondering where are all the people who were saying last week that it was fine to leave an infant in a car alone have gone.

7 posted on 09/04/2002 6:54:19 AM PDT by Between the Lines
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From NBC6.com:

10 Week Old Dies in Car Fire
09/03/2002

By NICOLE ALLSHOUSE / nbc6.com

A 10 week old perished in a vehicle fire Tuesday.
CONOVER, N.C. -- Police are searching for the cause of a car fire that killed a 10 week-old infant Tuesday afternoon.
Officers arrived to Lyle Creek Elementary on Edewater Drive around 3:30 p.m.
The vehicle, a Mitsubishi Eclipse was already engulfed in flames by the time police arrived. Fire crews quickly put out the fire, and crews discovered the infant’s body.
According to police, a mom ran inside the school to pick up her kindergartener, but she left her three year old and her 10 week old inside the car. After about 10 minutes, the three year old ran inside yelling fire.
Within seconds fire completely engulfed the car, police said.
The baby’s mother rushed out to the car and attempted to rescue the baby, but the car was too hot.
“He was defenseless It’s a tragic lesson we should all learn from. We are these little peoples everything. They depend on us for everything and we should never forget that,” Captain Steve Brewer said.
Brewer says that after 23 years of being an officer this is one of the hardest calls he’s ever responded to.
“All kind of things start going through your head. You just want to get there to see if you can save someone. It was to late today,” Brewer said.
The baby’s mother was taken to the hospital for minor burns to her hands from trying to get in the car. The three year old was not hurt.
8 posted on 09/04/2002 7:07:48 AM PDT by Between the Lines
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So how many years in prison should this lady get?
9 posted on 09/04/2002 7:22:56 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
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Absolutely! How many years in prison do you think would be appropriate?

She lost a child. She'll carry that burden for ever. In a sense she already has a life sentence. You were the one who brought up prison. Since you did, if the investigation bears any evidence of blame on the part of the mother, then yes I do believe she should be prosecuted.

10 posted on 09/04/2002 7:39:53 AM PDT by Jack of all Trades
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
what is your problem? what are you so pissed off about?
11 posted on 09/04/2002 7:54:56 AM PDT by Charlie OK
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Not much here to go on. For instance;

• Was the car running?
• Did the 3-year-old have access to lighter/matches?

A non-running automobile is not a candidate for spontaneous combustion.

12 posted on 09/04/2002 7:55:47 AM PDT by johnny7
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Geez, take the kids into school. I never leave my kids in the car for any reason.
13 posted on 09/04/2002 7:56:45 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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yup. unfortunately this lady had to learn the hard way. I don't let my daugter out of my sight, even in our front yard.
14 posted on 09/04/2002 7:59:09 AM PDT by Charlie OK
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To: Between the Lines
A fire in the care suggests to me that the driver left the car running when she went inside. It isn't clear, but that's what I would guess. If the car was left running, it shouldn't have been, obviously.
15 posted on 09/04/2002 8:01:09 AM PDT by Irene Adler
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She probably left the car running so she could keep the air conditioner on.
16 posted on 09/04/2002 8:06:15 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: Irene Adler
If the car was left running, it shouldn't have been, obviously.

It was about 90 degrees in Conover yesterday. Too hot to leave a child in a car without airconditioning.

17 posted on 09/04/2002 8:07:11 AM PDT by Between the Lines
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
So how many years in prison should this lady get?

Most likely she will be prosecuted for reckless child endangerment (They love that one in NC) in which she will probably receive 3 months and if she has no priors it will either be suspended or probated.

If you mean how many years that I think she should get, it would be none. What lesson could prison teach her that she has not already learned? I think that she will never leave an infant unattended in a car again, or if I am wrong she will just never buy a Mitsubishi again.

Laws that put "bad parents" in prison only makes a home that once had a less than perfect parent to a home with no parent. Hardly a good trade off. The best solution is to get stories like this one heard by parents so that maybe they will think twice before leaving their infant unattended.

18 posted on 09/04/2002 8:11:52 AM PDT by Between the Lines
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Leaving a car running is also irresponsible with kids in the car. That three year old could have thrown it into gear and caused a crash.

If you have kids you have responsibilities for their lives. I treat my dogs better than some people treat their children. I can sign an affidavit stating that never in my life have I ever left my dogs in my car alone.
19 posted on 09/04/2002 8:14:21 AM PDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs
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Leaving a car running is also irresponsible with kids in the car.

I agree. I was just replying as to why the engine may have been left on.

20 posted on 09/04/2002 8:16:57 AM PDT by Between the Lines
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