Harvard professor argues for 'abolishing' white race

THE WASHINGTON TIMES ^ | 9/4/02 | By Joyce Howard Price

[DM1]

Noel Ignatiev, a founder of a journal called Race Traitor and a fellow at Harvard's W.E.B. DuBois Institute, a leading black-studies department, argues in the current issue of Harvard Magazine that "abolishing the white race" is "so desirable that some may find it hard to believe" that anyone other than "committed white supremacists" would oppose it.

[martian_22]

This idea is nothing new. In the '60's, the idea was promoted at a lot of colleges that the removal or breeding-out of the white peoples would ensure world peace.

Racists come in all colors.....
Some are more acceptable than others....

[Ohioan]

Mr. Ignatiev's parents, Jewish immigrants from Russia, were not college educated, but he attended the University of Pennsylvania, dropping out after three years. He worked in a Chicago steel mill and in factories that made farm equipment and electrical parts for two decades. At the steel mill, he helped organize strikes and protests by the predominantly black work force.

He was laid off from the steel mill in 1984, a year after he was arrested on charges of throwing a paint bomb at a strike-breaker's car. He set up Marxist discussion groups in the early 1980s.

Well, here we have an avowed Marxist, extrapolating from the sort of rant that Marx directed at the Jews--for whom he blamed all of the "evils" of Capitalism--to apply the same sort of scape goating to Whites in general. That the man is the son of Jewish immigrants, yet shows not the slightest sense of obligation or loyalty to his adopted homeland, is further evidence of just how despicable he is.

I would suggest that any Harvard Alumni with any sense, withhold any further support, so long as this new version of the Socialist War against civilzation, race and culture, is so welcome there. Since there is absolutely no evidence of his major hypothesis that Caucasian racial achievements are responsible for anyone else's problems, the man has no genuine scholarly credentials; so firing him would hardly be a blow to academic freedom. (Now, I am not saying that some American Caucasians have not caused problems for non-Caucasians. Certainly the foreign policy of Dean Rusk and Robert Strange McNamara, during the Kennedy/Johnson years, cause immense problems for certain Negro tribes in Africa, who had never done anything to hurt the United States. But that is just one more example of the muddled thinking so popular at Harvard. The Dean Rusk foreign policy--very popular at Harvard--was intended to change the whole direction of the West, although not quite so insanely as that which Ignatiev is advocating.

It is too bad that you cannot deport a son of immigrants, who bites the hand that shelters him. This fellow deserves the same fate as John Brown; but he has yet to attempt his Harpers' Ferry.

William Flax Return Of The Gods Web Site

[norton]

So much for the eighteenth & early nineteenth centuries.

Immigration since that time has been voluntary or internal.

Internal immigrants are already part of the system - what part of that system is up to them and not me.

My ancestors came over both free and indentured, Irish and others. I've got problems too; but they are my problems and not subject to any reparations or guilt on the part of anyone whose ancestors needed Irish labor to keep the furnaces glowing.

[Michael2001]

Is Mugabe teaching at Harvard now?

[<1/1,000,000th%]

I think its time to abolish Harvard professors.

[WaterDragon]

What a moron. Is he proposing genocide? Or does he think we're all as stupid as the quasi-lefties who carry around a load of "white guilt?"

[Ohioan]

What a moron. Is he proposing genocide? Or does he think we're all as stupid as the quasi-lefties who carry around a load of "white guilt?"

The man may be a fanatic Communist, but he is not a moron. There is evil method in his madness.

In explaining to youthful Conservatives how to better argue our cause, I frequently cite the old Hindu fable of the six blind men and the elephant (where each describes the elephant completely differently, based upon the part that he is touching, but none of whom show any understanding whatsoever of the other parts of the elephant, including the internal that none of them could see even if they were not blind). This vicious Leftist warrior against our race, nation and civilization, understands more than you give him credit for. He has restructured the basic Communist argument against human success, to apply it to the racial question with a vengeance.

Why, would he do so? Well, for the past 50 years, a steady bombardment by all segments of the Left, have made Americans afraid to express any pride in their race, or any sense of the relationship between biology and psychology and culture. They now consider this our point of vulnerability. So instead of attacking the person who has succeeded and grown wealthy, as the enemy of the people, knowing that that will not fly in these United States; they change the thrust, and apply the usual Communist exploitation of the poor lie, on a broad based racial front. Hence the Negro becomes the Proletariat, and the White the Bourgeoisie. His assurance that he does not necessarily mean our deaths, by suggesting that you can overthrow the King without murdering him, is almost this sick pervert's way of making a very sick joke. For murdering the King (Tsar) and his whole family was precisely the path the Communists followed when they took over Russia.

The reason that the hard core Marxists can count on getting away with this sort of hatefilled attack upon the American mainstream, is that the Fabian Left has virtually unanimously embraced the idea that pretending there is no such thing as meaningful biological differences between the types of Man, is the way to World Peace. (They believe that if you somehow convince everybody that everybody is the same, no one will want to fight over anything. That this is looney-tunes with a vengeance, does not seem to dampen its appeal on the Left.) See Myths & Myth Makers In American "Higher" Education, to understand the Academic mindset that makes this character possible.

William Flax

[Vinnie]

and a fellow at Harvard's W.E.B. DuBois Institute.

Isn't there a W.E.B. DuBois something or other organization that is/ was a commie front organization? I'm pretty sure I'm correct.
I seem to recall that Lee Harvey Oswald was an active member.

[Ohioan]

W.E.B. DuBois was himself a Communist. He was the only "Colored" man in the group that founded the National Association For The Advancement of Colored People, and was selected by the White Fabian Socialist founders, precisely because he was on the far Left.

To understand where the NAACP stands in relation to this whole subject, you need to understand two things: First that founding by Leftwing Whites. Second, the principle purpose, which was to wean American Negroes away from the constructive leadership of self-made men like Booker T. Washington and George Washington Carver, whose very lives gave the lie to the Leftwing spin on race relations. (See Civil War, Reconstruction & Creating Hate In America Today.)

The tragedy of the 20th Century may be partly attributed to the naivete of American Conservatives, who never grasped the full extent of duplicity and malice on the Left.

William Flax Return Of The Gods Web Site

[Razz Barry]

In the essay in Harvard Magazine, Mr. Ignatiev says he always expected "bewilderment" at his views from "people who still think of race as biology."

That should read; In the essay in Harvard Magazine, Mr. Ignatiev says he always expected "bewilderment" at his views from "people who still think."

[Ohioan]

In the essay in Harvard Magazine, Mr. Ignatiev says he always expected "bewilderment" at his views from "people who still think of race as biology."

That should read; In the essay in Harvard Magazine, Mr. Ignatiev says he always expected "bewilderment" at his views from "people who still think."

Actually, the traitor's comment--let us apply his own term, whether or not we could have him indicted;--the traitor's comment quoted is very interesting. Even most Communists accept that race is biological. They just believe that biology can be manipulated by environment--the Lamarckian version of evolution. The Nazis were the branch of Socialism which played with the idea that race was something other than biology. Ultimately, because the German population was actually less homogeneous than many of its neighbors, they adopted a mystical view of "race," which reduced to its clear implications, defined the new "race" on ideological grounds. To be a true member of Hitler's "Master Race," you have to share the National Socialist vision. They also, of course, accepted by implication much of the Lamarckian psuedo-science, implicit in Socialism. (See The Lies Of Socialism.)

Of course the traitor is a wacko fanatic. But as I suggested in #s 82, 87 & 89, there is evil method in his apparent lunacy. This should not just be laughed off! He is not the only "Professor" on a prominent American campus promoting this refinement of the hatemongers' art.

William Flax

[Ohioan]

I am bumping this, not to give more publicity to this loathsome Professor. Rather, my intention is to illustrate how complete has become the corruption of Harvard, since the documentation of its original takeover by Fabians was published by the Veritas Foundation, in Keynes At Harvard, about 1959.

This intellectual descent spanned the whole of the 20th Century, and has had an enormous influence on the corruption of other Colleges and Universities across America.

For those unfamiliar with the Foundation, the Veritas Foundation was a project by Conservative Harvard alumni, headed by Teddy Roosevelt's youngest son, Archibald.

William Flax Return Of The Gods Web Site

[WaterDragon]

Thank you for the post. I'll explore the link you provided.

[Ohioan]

For another thread showing both how sick Harvard is, as well as how mercenary, try: Harvard Caves.

Maybe we should make baiting the Harvard looneys a major project. The problem is that we would look like bullies. The place is so full of dysrons, that I doubt that they could find anyone capable of answering us.

Really! Just how would you defend the red turkey that is the subject of this thread?

William Flax Return Of The Gods Web Site

[WaterDragon]

I think there's an article at Front Page Magazine by David Horowitz on how to take our universities away from the left. Today it's come down to the morons being in charge of education.

[Tailgunner Joe]

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