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BadJoe/JimRob Dispute Ended - Free Republic Train Wreck Derailed
Free Republic | August 26, 2002 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 08/26/2002 7:21:32 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

Most of you know that a battle has been raging over the last several weeks between me and BadJoe regarding some of our moderating policies. Looked pretty bad there for awhile. Joe was going to resign from Free Republic and there was even a dust up regarding the monthly donors and how the records would be turned over to a new credit card service.

I am happy to report that today that battle has officially ended and Free Republic may have avoided being fatally damaged in a disastrous train wreck. As it is, the only losses suffered were a few black eyes and a lost ear or two. Fractures and abrasions were suffered, but no major bones broken or organs punctured. Hurt feelings, bruised egos, dampened spirits, damaged bodies are now all on the mend. A satisfactory agreement has been reached between all warring parties as to how we will continue forward in our fight for Freedom.

Summary of today's agreement between BadJoe and JimRob:

  1. Jim to reinstate the observer program with between 2-4 members of his choosing. Joe may suggest nominees.

  2. Jim to put up a post to this effect, including his boilerplate guideline to the mods.

  3. Jim will work with John on writing a subroutine or program that lists the banned comments, banned threads and names of banishees, that Joe will have access to.

  4. Joe will process the Sept fundraiser cc's, and work with Jim and whomever is taking over the program to effect a smooth transition. Joe will continue to work on the fundraisers as a volunteer but will not run the program.

We will be working on a moderator policy manual (the boilerplate guidelines) and will post it as soon as completed. For now, I will say that we do not want racist material, anti-Semitism, religion bashing, tin-foil hat material, leftist propaganda (used to smear or bash conservatives), profanity, vulgarity, pornography, excessive flaming, insults or feuds, liberals, leftists, marxists, etc., are generally not welcome as are multiple screen names, disruptors, anti-FReepers or returning bannees.

Said material may be deleted as discovered or reported and posters may be warned, suspended or banned depending on severity.

But the standing moderator policy is to go as easy as possible on the posters. Many flame wars and insults and even some minor violations of other rules may sometimes be ignored. It depends entirely on the situation and the posters involved. Posters with unclean hands might as well avoid using the abuse button. We do not want to wade through hundreds of posts looking for who is at fault. We do not have time for it and do not want to act as nannies anyway. The general rule of thumb for a moderator is to always give the poster the benefit of the doubt. If there is any doubt, then we do not delete and do not ban. I'd rather bend the rules than stifle the debate. And now that we have a smokeybackroom forum, we'll suggest that people take their feuds and flame wars there and unless it gets too nasty the moderators will look the other way.

Believe it or not we do not like deleting or banning. We want to attract as many new people as we possibly can, but we also want to run a clean board. And we want to advance our conservative causes while not assisting the leftists propaganda artists in their dirty work.

I know this does not cover everything, but we'll be posting more as we can.

Also, we are in the process of contracting with one of the major nationwide credit card processing companies. Joe has been processing these for us for the last several years, but the job has gotten to be a huge task and a burden on him. Joe will assist us in making as smooth a transition as possible to the new service.

As always, I thank all of you from the bottom of my heart and we are all very appreciative of your support and understanding. I'm sorry for this recent turmoil and hope it is all behind us and we can get on with our FReeping!

God bless you all and God bless America!

Jim


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To: ArneFufkin
Eggs Ackley!

Bury the hatchet folks. The few who continue to fight over their petty diferences are plain to us all. You are marked ... and watched by thousands of eyes. Stop making fools of yourselves and denigrating this forum.
161 posted on 08/26/2002 9:10:35 PM PDT by mercy
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To: Jim Robinson; BADJOE
Congratulations, Jim. It sounds like you and Joe handled this in the most mature and professional manner possible.

I hope and believe that FR will be the better for it.
162 posted on 08/26/2002 9:11:04 PM PDT by cicero's_son
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To: COB1
I heard chadsey say he had a new breakfast cereal:

Just because the lady is wearing red does not mean that I look like that in the morning! Besides, you don't really think I let Chadsworth eat at the table do you? His dish is in the floor of course!!!!!

163 posted on 08/26/2002 9:11:31 PM PDT by ladyinred
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To: Jim Robinson; BADJOE
Glad you two have worked things out.

Moderating is a thankless (well mostly :) but necessary job when you have such a huge number of free thinkers (and the dregs that come out the of the woodwork to spoil things when so many others are having a good time) across the political spectrum.

It is good that we are trying to walk the walk of representative democracy (i.e. a Republic), rather than put the whole burden of governing FReeperdom on JimRob's shoulders alone (the guy has to sleep sometime :). I've often thought that if we can't manage to govern ourselves effectively and fairly, what business do we have in complaining about how our representatives govern us?

All in all FR has always been a more open and forgiving, yet civil forum for political discourse than any leftist (or media sponsored) bulletin board.

Our principles are not to be compromised, but we should always be open to looking at better ways to defend those principles. Let the improved process lead us into a greater FR.
164 posted on 08/26/2002 9:12:37 PM PDT by anymouse
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To: COB1
Click!!------Clik ------ new round in the chamber, ------click - safety off!!!

YOU TRYIN' TO GIT ME IN DEEPER TRUBBLE----BOY????

165 posted on 08/26/2002 9:13:10 PM PDT by chadsworth
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To: strela
Meaningless update:

 
1st
2nd
3rd
4th
Total
Packers 0 10 10 7 27
Browns 14 0 3 3 20
 

166 posted on 08/26/2002 9:13:11 PM PDT by BraveMan
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To: ArneFufkin
Indeed you WILL deserve it. Sadly, a lot of those you mention did NOT deserve it. In more than one case, they responded to flame-bait from your authoritarians. And what is TOO conservative? HOBNAILED jackboots instead of your regular style?

BTW, it's OK to be anti-government. If the founders weren't ANTI-King George's government, YOU would not have a board like this to post to... Your smarmy comments do you and this board no justice.
167 posted on 08/26/2002 9:14:26 PM PDT by dcwusmc
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To: ladyinred; COB1
Besides, you don't really think I let Chadsworth eat at the table do you? His dish is in the floor of course!!!!!

SHE MUST STILL LOVE ME, I get my shots regularly, she gives them to me with an upholstery needle.

168 posted on 08/26/2002 9:19:18 PM PDT by chadsworth
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To: HiTech RedNeck
It does seem redundant doesn't it. I don’t know why people can't just take their suspensions without whining. Outright banning is so damned rare that it is meaningless.
169 posted on 08/26/2002 9:22:14 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: COB1
First the crack about my "bottom" being big, now this.......you looking for a fight Cowboy?
170 posted on 08/26/2002 9:22:38 PM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
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To: Jim Robinson
Godspeed to the moderators in their never-ending quest to sniff out paid scumbag Democrat operatives as well as the rogue disruptors who occasionally pop over from Scumbag Underground. These animals work like narcs, slowly worming their way into the community's confidence and then slowly chipping away like Andy Dufresne by attempting to place seeds of doubt in the minds of as many posters and lurkers as possible, especially the impatient and overzealous "libertarian" crew. Their most common ploy is to pose as rock-ribbed conservatives who are disappointed by Bush and other Republicans who, they claim, have betrayed their conservative base, and have turned out to be nothing but liberals who are pushing a Democrat agenda, etc.

These Democrat-narcs do not try to entice people to vote for their scumbags. They know that won't happen here. No, their singular goal is to prevent as many Republican votes as possible.

So I hope that the essence of "moderating" on this forum includes the awareness that because Free Republic represents a serious political problem for the rats, the rats will do anything to neutralize its impact. Anything.

God bless Jim, and God bless America.

Regards,
LH

171 posted on 08/26/2002 9:22:42 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Torie
Everytime I've had a post yanked, the AM sent me a Private Mail saying "Cool the personal attacks", "Language was too coarse" or "Knock off the war with so and so" or something to that extent.

If my pal gets '86'ed from a pub for reasons I think are unjustified, I'm not going to go back there every night and whine incessantly to staff and patrons about the injustice and bias of the action and venue. They'd boot me too, that's disruptive to others, and fundamentally disrespectful of their prerogatives. I'd join my pal at a different bar with a more just approach. This forum is more tolerant of cantankerous characters, impolite discourse and unpopular viewpoints than any other I've seen. Left wing political operators, not here to debate with the objective of restoring a Constitutionally dedicated government, are the only folks who get an immediate hook in my observations over the years. You've got to be a real jackass, nutcase, demonstrated fraud or agent provacoteur to get bounced from here. Even then, you get a first and probably a second warning.

172 posted on 08/26/2002 9:24:25 PM PDT by ArneFufkin
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To: dixie sass; usconservative; Jim Robinson
if we don't give in to the disruptors and allow them to take over the threads

If you don't feed the trolls, they will go away. Think before you post. Do you want your mother to read it? Do you want your spouse or boss to read it? Do you want your children to read it? Do you want the next person you interview for a job with to read it? Be proud of the messages you post. This is Jim Robinson's site, but the quality of discussion is what we make of it.

Jim, it might be a good idea to hunt down a copy of Emily Postnews' Guide to Etiquette from Usenet and perhaps link to it on the posting form. All the guidelines apply here every bit as much as they apply to Usenet.

173 posted on 08/26/2002 9:26:38 PM PDT by altair
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To: BraveMan
Rest assured, someone in here will find that statement ambiguous ...

Young man, you'll have to explain just exactly what you meant by "ambiguous" - is it what I think you mean??

174 posted on 08/26/2002 9:26:55 PM PDT by ValerieUSA
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To: ArneFufkin
"You've got to be a real jackass, nutcase, demonstrated fraud or agent provacoteur to get bounced from here."

Is Joe back?

175 posted on 08/26/2002 9:28:59 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA; ladyinred; chadsworth; lsee
WAIT A MINUTE!!

Chadsey was the one with the "big butt" cracks!!
I was just a poor innocent by-stander saying what I was told to say.

(See what you started, lsee!!)

176 posted on 08/26/2002 9:29:06 PM PDT by COB1
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
you looking for a fight Cowboy

There is a rare saying that actually came from Texas - long tme ago ( don't ask) that says --

" The longer your needle is, the more likely you are to stick yourself with it!"

Cobby aint got no needle, he has a Samari Sword!!

177 posted on 08/26/2002 9:29:24 PM PDT by chadsworth
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To: Jim Robinson
Example tin-foil hat material: "Our government was in on a plot to hijack airliners full of people and crash them into the WTC, the Pentagon, and other government targets so that Bush could declare war on Afghanistan and other ME countries. It's all about oil and global power." That is in my opinion tin-foil hat material. Anyone who posts anything resembling this b/s will be nuked on sight.

Thanks for that definition. I'll have to bookmark that.

178 posted on 08/26/2002 9:30:51 PM PDT by Prodigal Son
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To: BADJOE; Jim Robinson; Bob J; Admin Moderator
"Blessed are the peacemakers"
Because they're the ones that make the good things happen. Way to go all!


And AMs, as a great President once said, "blessed are the peacekeepers" too!

179 posted on 08/26/2002 9:32:34 PM PDT by mrsmith
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To: chadsworth; ladyinred; WhyisaTexasgirlinPA; lsee
"she gives them to me with an upholstery needle."

Uh....chadsey, she mentioned that she might have to start giving you those shots in a different place.
Uh.....around on the other side.

180 posted on 08/26/2002 9:33:21 PM PDT by COB1
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