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The global strategic threat (Joseph Farah warns of WWIII)
WorldNetDaily ^ | July 23, 2002 | Joe Farah

Posted on 07/22/2002 10:50:26 PM PDT by Michael2001

"We're going to have something in the way of a major nuclear event in this country," Warren Buffett, the second wealthiest man in the world, told stockholders of Berkshire Hathaway Inc. just 11 weeks ago. "It will happen. Whether it will happen in 10 years or 10 minutes, or 50 years ... it's virtually a certainty."

What does Warren Buffett, whose major business is insurance, know that you don't know?

He probably knows a great deal more than I know. But, because of my position, I'm blessed with intelligence sources. I'm also cursed with them.

I don't like to be an alarmist, but withholding information is not in my nature as a newsman. People turn to me for my analysis and my insight into current events. Based on what I know, I believe the next 12 months will be life-changing for many of us. I believe we will see dramatic developments and experience horrors that will make Sept. 11 pale by comparison.

You've read and heard a great deal about a likely U.S. attack on Iraq. It is coming. I am not giving away any state secrets here. Saddam Hussein knows it is coming, and he is preparing for it. Shortly, some time in the next year, the U.S. will launch an all-out attack on Iraq designed to finish the war we should have finished a decade ago. The objective will be to hunt down Saddam Hussein and his inner circle and kill them all, while simultaneously locating and destroying his growing stockpile of weapons of mass destruction.

Iraq has nuclear weapons and will be in a position to mass produce them within a year. Iraq has enormous stockpiles of biological weapons, most hidden beneath mosques and palaces. Iraq has chemical weapons. Iraq has delivery systems with a 650-kilometer range and, within two years, will be producing its own inter-continental ballistic missiles with a range of 3,000 kilometers. Iraq has terrorists prepared to bring weapons of mass destruction into major cities in the United States and throughout the West. According to my intelligence sources, Baghdad is waiting for the inevitable U.S. attack to launch its suicide bombers and missiles.

When the U.S. attacks, a new fiendish, apocalyptic wave of mass destruction and terrorism will begin. The longer the U.S. waits, the more the threat and Iraq's capabilities increase.

The attack on Iraq, when it comes, will be severe. It will involve hundreds of thousands of U.S. troops. It will make Afghanistan look like a tea party by comparison. It will make the Persian Gulf War look like a dress rehearsal. There will be heavy casualties. Iraq will be hit hard. Casualties will be heavy – including civilians. There's no way around it.

This war will not just involve Iraq and the United States. Iran will be involved. Syria will be involved. Other Muslim states are likely to be involved. International terrorists will be unleashed from all corners of the earth.

And this war will also come home, my intelligence sources say. Suicide bombers are already here – just waiting for their orders to deploy hand-carried weapons of mass destruction in the United States. Israel and Europe will also be hit hard.

Yes, what I am describing sounds like World War III. That's what it will be. Sound like Armageddon? It may well be.

As I said, I'm not giving away any state secrets here. The U.S. government is making the necessary plans to fight this war – with one exception. It is not preparing to protect Americans from the destructive wrath of the coming attacks.

Therefore, it's up to Americans themselves to be as prepared as they can possibly be for the coming holocaust. We're on our own. The government is making plans for the continuity of government. It's up to us to ensure that there is a continuity of America, a continuity of our families, a continuity of life.

There are obvious reasons the government is not telling you what I am telling you. It would be devastating to the economy. People might panic. And, as I said, the government can't protect you – or won't.

Could I be wrong? Could my sources be wrong? I surely hope so. I sincerely and fervently pray they are wrong. But the threat is real. Things could get very ugly real fast.


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To: Woahhs
The equivalencies you've made are roughly the limit of what I've been able to find on the subject...and I'm relying on Chuck Missler for that. I'm still not sure how I would fact-check such esoteric information anyway.

I would not trust Missler. I saw documentation that proved Missler committed plagiarism while writing Magog Invasion and his newletter. In addition, he was one of the guys that used the Y2K scare to make a ton of money.

81 posted on 07/23/2002 10:35:03 AM PDT by ProudAmerican2
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To: Woahhs
Here's the part I have. Seems that I never finished the transcription (I have these on tape).


The Russian Invasion of Israel.
Dr Neil Lipken
Presented at First Assembly of God Linton IN
March 1995


Dr Lipken normally teaches six hours on this topic. He delivered just one hour of his available material in this presentation. All assumptions are his unless otherwise noted. All scripture is from King James Version unless otherwise noted.


I. When does it occur?

Ezekial chapters 36 and 37 are about 1948 and the return of Israel as a nation. Prior to 1948 the last time Israel was a free nation in her own land was 721BC.

Ezk 38:1 ¶ And the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,
2 Son of man, set thy face against Gog, the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal, and prophesy against him,
3 And say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal:
4 And I will turn thee back, and put hooks into thy jaws, and I will bring thee forth, and all thine army, horses and horsemen, all of them clothed with all sorts of armour, even a great company with bucklers and shields, all of them handling swords:
5 Persia, Ethiopia, and Libya with them; all of them with shield and helmet:
6 Gomer, and all his bands; the house of Togarmah of the north quarters, and all his bands: and many people with thee.


Verse 1-3
1. Gog is a person, the prince of Meshech and Tubal.
2. Mogog is a grandson of Noah who settled in the area of Russia south opf moscow.
3. Tubal is a grandson of Noah who settled in the area around Tobolsk (Siberia)
4. Meshach is a grandson of Noah who settled in the area around Moscow.

Several versions include Rosh in verse 1. Rosh is Russia in Hebrew.

God is against Gog but Gog is not the anti-Christ. Gog dies in the mountains of Israel. (Ezek 39:11) while the anti-christ is cast alive into the lake of fire.

Verse 5-6
1. Persia is Iran

2. Ethiopia is ethiopia (some versions call it Cush)
3. Libya is libya (some versions call it Put)
4. Gomer is in Eastern Europe (possibly eastern Germany region)
5. Togarmah is Turkey



Ezek 38:7 Be thou prepared, and prepare for thyself, thou, and all thy company that are assembled unto thee, and be thou a guard unto them.
8 After many days thou shalt be visited: in the latter years thou shalt come into the land that is brought back from the sword, and is gathered out of many people, against the mountains of Israel, which have been always waste: but it is brought forth out of the nations, and they shall dwell safely all of them.

Verse 7
Russia will be a guard for all these nations during the approach and attack.

Verse 8
"After many days you will be visited:" -- The sense of the word visited here is summoned as in a court summons, Russia will have no choice but to respond.
"In the latter years" ---- During the end times

"thou shalt come in to the land that is brought back from the sword" — Isreal was established in 1948 immediately after the sword of the holocaust

"and is gathered out of many people, against the mountains of Israel, which have been always waste: but it is brought forth out of the nations, and they shall dwell safely all of them." — The children of Israel have been gathered from --all-- nations and they dwell safely.

Can this have happened already?

No. Israel was taken out of her land three times. The first was the captivity in Egypt. Just one nation. The second was the captivity in Persia-Media. Just two nations.

The third captivity occurred in 70AD with the destruction of the temple, when the Jewish people were scattered over the face of the globe. This was foretold in Luke 21:5-6, Luke 21:24, Luke 19:41-44, and Matt 24:1-2

When Israel was established in 1948 Jews came from many nations (and continue to come from many nations) back into their land.

Jerusalem is the city of God. The place where he established his name and the ancestral capitol of Israel. In 1967 Israel recaptured Jerusalem.

Since 1948 Russia has not invaded Israel. Therefore this invasion is still going to happen at some point in the future.


II. Who is involved?

In Ezekial 38:5 Persia (Iran), Ethiopia and Libya are mentioned as Russia's allies.

Could this have happened in 1964? No. At that time Iran was an ally of US. Etiopia was non-aligned and Libya was an ally of US.

In 1969 Colonel Khaddafi took over libya and went Russian. (as a side note Colonel K. is an idiot. You think that after all these years he would have promoted himself to General!)

In the mid- 70s Ethiopia suffered a communist revolution and became a Russian ally.

In 1979 Ayatollah Khomeini led a revolt in Iran and it became a Russian Ally.

In Ezekial 38:6 Gomer and Togarmah are included..(eastern Europe and Turkey). Eastern Europe has been leftist since WWII and while they are currently democratic (mostly) a contingent of communist hardliners still exists. Turkey has been moving progressively more to the left for years.

Who's missing? what countries that we would expect to be here are not and why not?

Normally when considering the great rivalries of the ages we think of Egypt and Israel, (and Tom and Jerry. Dr Lipken has a unique sense of humor). But Egypt is not included here. Why?

Because now they have a peace treaty with Israel.

[end of transcription]

From memory Dr Lipken also elimnates Iraq. First desert storm and soon DSII will have them neutralized. He also eliminates Syria but I don't remember the reasoning.

I'll have to track down my tapes and finish this at some point.

GSA(P)
82 posted on 07/23/2002 10:41:10 AM PDT by John O
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To: Michael2001
Plant some nice mushrooms on Mecca, Bagdad, Tehran, Damascas, Cairo, Paris, .....
83 posted on 07/23/2002 10:42:45 AM PDT by Redleg Duke
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To: Timesink
Re: post #11, I hope you are correct. If they do attack with WMD, and we don't kill every last one of them, we don't deserve to survive.
84 posted on 07/23/2002 10:44:46 AM PDT by Republic of Texas
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To: John O
In 1979 Ayatollah Khomeini led a revolt in Iran and it became a Russian Ally.

They buy Russian weapons with petrodollars--but they are not allies. Word is that the Russian Army is getting extremely PO'd at the Russian Trade Ministry--lots of stuff that gets sold to Iran keeps turning up in Chechnya, in the hands of Islamists out to kill Russians.

85 posted on 07/23/2002 10:47:05 AM PDT by Poohbah
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To: John O
bump for later
86 posted on 07/23/2002 10:51:09 AM PDT by billbears
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To: Captainpaintball
When we are more worried about of-fending the ememy than de-fendig ourselves?

Why is this country so unbeleivably naive. From the President on down, everybody seems to think that a war with Hussien will be a picnic.

Does anyone, with one brain in their head, think that Hussein will sit there and be destroyed.

I will quarantee you he has people in place all over the world, just waiting for GW to make the first move.

And the stupid part of it is, what defence do we have against them.

Don't worry about the stock market people, if GW starts this war, it won't matter one bit.

87 posted on 07/23/2002 10:53:44 AM PDT by biffalobull
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To: biffalobull
Why is this country so unbeleivably naive. From the President on down, everybody seems to think that a war with Hussien will be a picnic.

Exactly! Ironically, if we invade Iraq to prevent Hussein from using WMD, we will probably provoke him to use WMD.

88 posted on 07/23/2002 11:07:38 AM PDT by ProudAmerican2
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To: Michael2001
If we are to win the hearts and minds and prevent the proliferation of Jihad Johnnies we must defend ourselves by teaching our children the fact that our systems and beliefs are the correct ones.

I recently particiapted in a Boy Scout summer camp at a local junior college. I helped with the Space Exploration merit badge. On the day I presented a talk on the ISS the boys had just come from their Indian Lore session. I thought that it was somewhat ironic that they should be carrying their bows and arrows into the Space Exploration Class. I lectured them on the development of the Space Station from von Braun's wheel to the ISS which is a work in progress.

I told them that our society is based on science and technology. Our political and cultural system is based on science and law and freedom. If we remind our children that they stand on the shoulders of giants and should reach for the stars, then Islam will wither and die just like the communist system. Islam and communism will/have died because within them they contained the seeds of their destruction. Marx had it wrong. We don't have those seeds because we're constantly planting and reseeding!

89 posted on 07/23/2002 11:33:31 AM PDT by Young Werther
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To: american spirit
That and the rapture theology as well as the IRS granted 501-C3 status most churches now have has removed modern day Christianity from the battle.

What has removed modern day Christianity from the battle is the modern day apostasy of mainline "Christianity". We rapture-believing (I won't get into the pre-vs-post trib question) fundamentalists are a small segment of American protestantism, although I'll grant you that we are loud beyond our numbers. The mainline Protestant denominations have adopted a non-Christian social gospel which is being spread world-wide by the pagan World Council of Churches, and have abandoned the true Christian faith as it was once delivered to the saints. A survey of today's mainline Protestant ministers by one of the Christian magazines, I don't remember which one, found that the vast, overwhelming majority of those worthies don't believe the bible is the inspired word of God, don't believe in the virgin birth, the resurrection, the miracles of Jesus, salvation by faith, or the literal return of Christ to earth. How can unbelieving pastors lead other unbelievers to faith in Jesus Christ? How can unbelieving church members have a positive moral influence on society or the governance of the nation? They both have an influence alright, but not for the better.

I'm an independent, fundamentalist Baptist so I can't speak for Catholics or Orthodox Christians, but I have never known a practicing Catholic who was as apostate as many of today's mainline protestants are. Most mainline Protestants I know are nothing more than once-a-year "Christians" who live like the devil the rest of the year and expect God to reward them richly for having been confirmed and/or baptized into the "church" at some point. Someone who takes his/her Christianity seriously will live it out in their daily lives, and I don't see much of that happening today among mainline "Christians". Little wonder that. Given the state of unbelief pervading the mainline clergy, what else should we expect from the laity?

Someday many modern day "Christians", pastors and laymen alike, will stand before Jesus and he will say to them, "I would that thou were either cold or hot. So, because thou art lukewarm and neither cold nor hot, I will spew thee out of my mouth. Because thou sayest, 'I am rich and have gotten riches, and have need of nothing' and knowest not that thou art the wretched one and miserable and poor and blind and naked".

I don't know for a certainty whether or not the USA is mentioned in prophecy, but I tend to think it isn't. America was given the best opportunity to be an example to the world of a truly Christian nation of any nation that has ever existed. But we traded away that opportunity for a mess of worldly pottage, and I believe the result will be the eventual dissipation of the power and influence in the world we now enjoy.

BTW, any and all may feel free to ridicule and flame all you want, I'm quite used to it by now. Some of our nominally "Christian" neighbors are now shunning us and laughing behind our backs at our "fundy" beliefs. At a recent neighborhood dinner party we interrupted their foul-mouthed ridiculing of an absent Christian by admitting that we also believe in divine creation and disbelieve the absurd evolution theory. For a few looong seconds you could have heard the proverbial pin drop. I don't think there will be any invitations to future neighborhood events coming our way. And that's OK, we knew all along that believing in Jesus Christ has a price, and ridicule and scorn is a miniscule price compared to what Christians in other lands are paying. Our missionary daughter recently returned from a stay in eastern Africa, and there is much persecution of Christians taking place over there, as well as in many other places around the globe. One thing of which I am very certain, true Christians in America will pay a far, far higher price for their faith before Jesus returns.

91 posted on 07/23/2002 1:16:15 PM PDT by epow
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To: Captainpaintball
Does anyone see us winning this war? When we are more worried about of-fending the ememy than de-fendig ourselves?

We will win, but the PCers will cost us many lives.
92 posted on 07/23/2002 1:44:30 PM PDT by Michael2001
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To: Mark17
I keep saying it will take a nuclear weapon going off here, and maybe more than one, to dislodge PC, because PC is so deeply ingrained in our society.

If that is true, then God help us all.
93 posted on 07/23/2002 1:46:30 PM PDT by Michael2001
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To: John O
In the mid- 70s Ethiopia suffered a communist revolution and became a Russian ally.

Sorry, but Ethiopia's communist government has since been overthrown, so you'll need to account for that.

The "Russian invasion of Israel" theorists need to put down their Bibles and look at a globe. If it's not a "Russian-backed Arab invasion of Israel," it ain't gonna happen, because the Caucasus mountains and Turkey (NATO ally) are between Russia and Israel, as is a lot of other stuff. And an amphibious Russian invasion of Israel through the Dardanelles would be suicidal, for the Russians, not for the Israelis.

94 posted on 07/23/2002 1:50:34 PM PDT by Campion
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To: Michael2001
Within a year, hundreds of thousands of American boys, many of them my friends and family will go to Iraq to do what we should have done 10 years ago. If there are hundreds of terrorists already in this country they will be risking their lives for nothing.

How so? Even if there are hundreds of terrorists here and they kill thousands of Americans, how is preventing more of the same "for nothing"?

Personally I think Farah is being a bit alarmist. He states that Iraq has nukes now as an established fact, when it is a supposition. And having them hidden away in a secret bunker is a far cry from having them here.

I think it's quite likely that we will see further terrorist attacks, but Farah is pushing a worst case scenario.

95 posted on 07/23/2002 1:53:43 PM PDT by Hugin
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To: Michael2001
If that is true, then God help us all.

Well, naturally, I hope I am wrong, but think of this. On 9/11, we had more people killed at the World Trade Center, and the Pentagon, than were killed at Pearl Harbor. The terrorist attack does not seem to have even made a small dent in PC. In fact, it may be (though I do not know for sure) that PC is even stronger now than before the attack. If that attack can not even put a small crack in PC, what on earth will?

96 posted on 07/23/2002 2:01:44 PM PDT by Mark17
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To: Hugin
Because Iraq's military is not the threat, neither is Saddam Hussein (there are a million just like him). The threat is the Islamics already in this nation.
97 posted on 07/23/2002 2:02:46 PM PDT by Michael2001
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To: TLBSHOW
ISLAM IS ANTICHRIST
98 posted on 07/23/2002 2:27:24 PM PDT by Delbert
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To: AmericanCompatriot
And, bear in mind that only the PC people are unarmed. The rest of us are prepared and ready. I need to refine my marksmanship, but at least I have an assault rifle, shotgun, handgun, concealed-carry pistol, and enough ammunition to take out a few hundred terrorists.

But ... but ... firearms are ILLEGAL in Washington, DC!! *snicker*

99 posted on 07/23/2002 2:34:24 PM PDT by Timesink
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To: ProudAmerican2
I would not trust Missler. I saw documentation that proved Missler committed plagiarism while writing Magog Invasion and his newletter. In addition, he was one of the guys that used the Y2K scare to make a ton of money.

I would be MOST interested in seeing support for this.

100 posted on 07/23/2002 4:23:20 PM PDT by Woahhs
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