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UPDATE ON SAMANTHA (CA) Arrest made in murder!!!!!!!
7/19/02 | Joe Hadenuf

Posted on 07/19/2002 10:16:33 AM PDT by Joe Hadenuf

Update from OC Sheriff... Press conference..

Playing 911 tape of the people that found the body, male caller was extremely upset, and scared, he was crying, and telling 911 the location but the cell phone transmission was breaking up and was disconnected.

They called the telephone number he left before the disconnect and they called his home and got a messege machine. He called back within minutes and made contact again with 911 and was almost hysterical and crying saying it was little girl and was very distraught,

When Cell caller got home he called again from home phone and recontacted 911, 911 said they would pick him up and the he could show him where the body was.

End of 911 tape

Press conference continues, stating over 2000 citizens have given leads......

Another press conference at 6 PM

At 955 AM they made an arrest alihondro avial DOB 3-1375


TOPICS: Breaking News
KEYWORDS: california; kidnapping; murder; samantharunnion
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To: Dengar01
I watched O'Reilly. I heard nothing about a "Green Card."

The guy was born here, and apparently was a juvenile offender as well.

1,281 posted on 07/20/2002 6:37:46 AM PDT by Illbay
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To: hoosiermama
I can disagree with you without concluding you're stupid. If you cannot, then maybe what we're dealing with here is a marked lack of maturity on your part.
1,282 posted on 07/20/2002 6:39:03 AM PDT by Illbay
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To: FITZ
To be sure, even if this guy was a "green card," that is a far cry from being an illegal.
1,283 posted on 07/20/2002 6:40:53 AM PDT by Illbay
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To: Alamo-Girl
This is just unbelievable. O'Reilly had an ACLU attorney on several weeks ago. Apparently ACLU is involved in defending some NAMBLA member, and O'Reilly read some statements from NAMBLA publication, then said to the attorney: "Counselor, this stuff is evidence of conspiracy to commit multiple felonies. I think we ought to go after them and put them all away on that score alone."

The ACLU schmuck said: "Well, Bill, we still have a First Amendment in this country..."

I just about gagged. So the "First Amendment" protects NAMBLA from prosecution, even when they publish material like the book you cited. But of course that SAME First Amendment is used by ACLU every day to try to expunge religious speech! You cannot pray in school, but you CAN get instructions to PREY in the schoolyard! That's ACLU's position!

Sometimes I just think I'm gonna lose it...

1,284 posted on 07/20/2002 6:47:14 AM PDT by Illbay
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To: Illbay
Losing it or not, you still make a lot more sense than 95% of the posters on this thread.
1,285 posted on 07/20/2002 7:26:33 AM PDT by EllaMinnow
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To: HamiltonJay
"Idiot! I am talking about the United States bafoon! I don't care what goes on in Africa!"

Of course you reverse racist, white male bashing, spewers of NOW-gang hate speech refuse to admit that your statistics are skewed and the tactic of using those distorted statistics to bash white males is reverse racism.

Go ahead and make all the personal attacks and resort to all the name-calling you want. That's what all of you reverse racist, white male bashing, illegal immigration advocating, festering sacks of liberal puss are good at.

Let's see these "indisputable" statistics and let's identify the source and motivation of your hateful attacks against white males.

I believe the motivation behind your hate speech is an all too transparent attempt to excuse our government's dangerous practice of allowing millions of legal and illegal aliens into our country without a criminal background check.

Only a truly sick, perverse, liberal demagogue would try to excuse or diminish the heinousness of this murder with an unsubstantiated, hateful attack on white males, using distorted statistics, not one of you has posted here.

If any of you liberal, reverse racists think I'm going to allow you to use the death of this child as an opportunity to recite the NOW-gang mantra of hate for all white males, unchallenged, you have another think coming.

As I've said before, there's plenty of blame to go around for all races, religions, genders and nationalities, but that's no excuse for our government to allow millions of legal and illegal aliens to enter our country without criminal background checks!

Here, read about the 27-year-old mother arrested, in Puerto Rico Thursday, for making her 5-year-old daughter watch her have sex with 50-year-old Jose Robles Perez and then watching 50-year-old Jose Robles Perez rape her 5-year-old daughter. All of it captured, along with the rapes of 12 other girls, on the 40 video tapes and 200 pictures the police confiscated.

Puerto Rico: Yauco man held on rape, exploitation charges

Are heinous crimes against children around-the-world in your statistics? No, of course not! They couldn't be used to justify your hate-filled attacks against white males then, could they?

1,286 posted on 07/20/2002 7:39:27 AM PDT by 4Freedom
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To: 4Freedom
...you reverse racist,...

As opposed to a good, upstanding "straight-ahead" racist like yourself, I presume.

1,287 posted on 07/20/2002 7:53:33 AM PDT by Illbay
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To: cgk
Thanks, it does seem at least like they have SOME sense there. Is the anti-death penalty movement strong in CA, or are people there just not gonna let up on the increase in violent crimes and murder?
1,288 posted on 07/20/2002 7:57:13 AM PDT by Illbay
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To: Dengar01
I'm sure there are some medieval torture techniques still being carried out in the California penitentiaries...they will get him there for sure.
1,289 posted on 07/20/2002 8:06:12 AM PDT by Eowyn-of-Rohan
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To: Illbay
Yes ---I don't know where he was born, the point I was making is that there are certain types of criminals who use the border to get away with horrid crimes. Suddenly there is a rash of violent child killings on the US side but I think these pedophiles have been active all along but slipping back over the border wasn't as easy after Sept 11. The killer of a 5 year old here used acid to pour over the little girl's body to destroy DNA evidence ---to me that's too planned out for someone who supposedly hadn't done any molesting or killing in years, just over the border there are many unsolved murders of young children and young women.
1,290 posted on 07/20/2002 8:07:41 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: HamiltonJay
In this country most child molestors are white men... period.

Most reported and convicted child molestors are white men. It's not possible to know the true ratios because reporting of child rape might vary among groups. I think pregnancy of 10-12 year olds might be a better indicator.

1,291 posted on 07/20/2002 8:11:10 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: doc
Yes ---a good example is what little President Fox has done to help the people of Ciudad Juarez, he declined the help of the FBI ---and we certainly know he's not afraid to demand US involvement in many other things. There are many who believe the killers are part of the protected drug cartels or certain wealthy individuals who would have ties to politicians. Corruption and inefficiency make it easy to commit crimes in Mexico especially to the poor people. There are many children from poor families missing and found killed, many who are too frightened of their police to even report it to them.
1,293 posted on 07/20/2002 8:26:20 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: 4Freedom
I think you're losing it. You sound like you've become what you purport to hate.

How is it "okay" for you to rant and rave like some KKK propaganda leaflet, but someone else can't simply point out a FACT to you?

List some "illegal alien" mass murderers. I can think off the top of my head, of one: Resendez Ramirez.

But I could name Ted Bundy, John WAYNE Gacy, Charles Manson, Jeffrey Dahmer and your compatriot Timothy McVeigh just off the top of my head.

So, go ahead and post your list. It'll be interesting to see what you come up with.

1,294 posted on 07/20/2002 8:30:10 AM PDT by Illbay
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To: FITZ
Bill O'Reilly spoke with a CA state assemblyman on his show on Thursday night (I think it was). They were discussing the fact that Mexico consistently refuses to extradite even the most outrageous criminal to the U.S., if that means they will be executed OR EVEN IMPRISONED FOR LIFE!

In Mexico, according to O'Reilly's guest, the heaviest prison sentence is "forty years," and they will not allow one of "theirs" to be heartlessly mistreated by the gringos.

It is pretty sickening. This assemblyman said that they are trying very hard to get Pres. Bush to begin making extradition for capital crimes a condition in further negotiations with Mexico.

I think those of us in the border states in particular should contact the White House in support of that.

1,295 posted on 07/20/2002 8:35:14 AM PDT by Illbay
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To: Illbay
"How is it "okay" for you to rant and rave like some KKK propaganda leaflet, but someone can't simply point out a FACT to you?"

Now I've heard them all from you liberal pukes on this thread.

Anyone that disputes your still unposted, so-called, indisputable statistics and "FACTS", that you use the heinous murder of a child as an opportunity to bash white males with, is a nazi, white supremicist, card carrying member of the KKK.

I don't care how you skew the statistics, they're not a justification for our government to continue the dangerous practice of allowing millions of legal and illegal aliens into our country, each year, without criminal background checks!

You liberal, feminist, unlimited immigration advocating, Now-gang, reverse racist, swine make me laugh.

1,296 posted on 07/20/2002 8:50:39 AM PDT by 4Freedom
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To: 4Freedom
You know, one could ALMOST engage in a discussion with you, until your rants just turn too silly.

Believe me, it makes you sound like someone who doesn't think when he can just emote.

1,297 posted on 07/20/2002 9:06:05 AM PDT by Illbay
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To: Illbay
It is pretty sickening. This assemblyman said that they are trying very hard to get Pres. Bush to begin making extradition for capital crimes a condition in further negotiations with Mexico.

It would be nice to see Bush start setting some conditions on Mexico for that and many other things. It's absurd that Fox, Castaneda, and Hernandez can puff themselves up by telling Americans how to better treat their citizens when conditions for the Mexicans are very terrible in Mexico. There is absolutely no excuse for some of what goes on over there and has gone on for a long time. There used to be a show in Juarez on TV where poor people would come on and show pictures of their lost ones ---missing children and teens, there were a lot and from all over Mexico. The ruling elites do nothing to help their condition or make life safer for them. I wonder how many times Westerfield took his RV into Mexico and got by with his perversions or this Avila and others.

1,298 posted on 07/20/2002 9:26:32 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: MeeknMing
Please add me to your ping list. Thanks.
1,299 posted on 07/20/2002 9:36:54 AM PDT by reformed_dem
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To: 4Freedom
I don't care how you skew the statistics, they're not a justification for our government to continue the dangerous practice of allowing millions of legal and illegal aliens into our country, each year, without criminal background checks!

You liberal, feminist, unlimited immigration advocating, Now-gang, reverse racist, swine make me laugh.

Don't laugh. They have something very definite in mind; some are witting accomplices and others are half-witting accomplices:

"We have Nicaragua, soon we will have El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, Costa Rica, and Mexico. One day, tomorrow or five years or fifteen years from now, we're going to take 5 to 10 million Mexicans and they are going into Dallas, into El Paso, into Houston, into New Mexico, into San Diego, and each one will have embedded in his mind the idea of killing ten Americans."

--Thomas Borge, Nicaragua Interior Minister as quoted in the Washington Times, March 27, 1985

1,300 posted on 07/20/2002 9:43:42 AM PDT by archy
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