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Judge Allows Danielle's Dad Back In Court: (Damon was banned for MAD-DOGGING Westerfield!)
North County Times-San Diego ^ | July 13, 2002 | Kimberly Epler

Posted on 07/13/2002 6:28:25 AM PDT by FresnoDA

Judge allows Danielle's dad back in court

KIMBERLY EPLER
Staff Writer

SAN DIEGO ---- The father of 7-year-old murder victim Danielle van Dam will be allowed to attend the remaining days of her accused murderer's trial, Judge William Mudd ruled Thursday.

But he warned Damon van Dam that one more incident will result in him being banned from the courthouse.


Two weeks ago, Judge Mudd deemed Damon van Dam a "security risk" for repeatedly staring down his daughter's accused murderer, David Westerfield, in courtroom hallways despite several warnings from sheriff's deputies and prosecutors.

Mudd then barred Damon van Dam from the third floor of the downtown San Diego courthouse where Westerfield's emotionally charged trial on charges he kidnapped and murdered Danielle is being held.

On Thursday, an attorney for the van Dam family requested that Damon van Dam be allowed back in the courtroom so he could provide emotional support to his wife, Brenda van Dam, and dispel any jury speculation that his absence meant he didn't care about the trial or that he had something to hide.

The van Dams were present at the hearing, but did not address the court.

Mudd said he believed Damon van Dam has had time to think about his actions and told him that security officials were willing to give him another chance.

"If I get one report of one incident, I will ban you from the courthouse," Mudd told van Dam.

Mudd also cautioned the couple that closing arguments in the case may push them to the limits of what they can handle. The prosecution has indicted it intends to use photos of Danielle's decomposing body while presenting its argument that Westerfield molested the second-grader before she was suffocated and her nude body dumped along a rural road.

Danielle disappeared from her second-story bedroom sometime after her father tucked her into bed on Feb. 1. The next morning she was gone. Westerfield was arrested for the crime five days before her body was discovered by search volunteers on Feb. 27.

The medical examiner has testified that her body was too badly decomposed to determine time of death or whether she was sexually assaulted.

The defense is likely to attack the van Dams' integrity and argue their lifestyle choices ---- including the van Dams' admitted drug use and previous sexual relations with other couples ---- put their children at risk. The van Dams also have two sons.

Prosecutors and the defense attorney have made it their practice to notify the judge before showing jurors graphic photographs of Danielle's body during the six-week trial so the van Dams could be asked to leave the courtroom.

Mudd said he expects the van Dams to leave if any part of the trial becomes too much for them.

"I don't think anybody is downplaying the emotion that both Mr. and Mrs. van Dam are going through," Mudd said.

Westerfield's attorney, Steven Feldman, said Westerfield did not object to Damon van Dam returning to the courtroom, but there still were security concerns. Feldman said Damon van Dam was "mad-dogging" the defense team, or shooting dirty looks at the attorneys.

Feldman said the van Dams have been "verbally attacking" potential buyers who are looking at Westerfield's Sabre Springs home, which is two doors down from their house. Westerfield signed the house over to his attorneys.

Feldman also accused Brenda van Dam of muttering a curse word at one of Westerfield's friends who testified earlier this week.

Prosecutor Jeff Dusek told Mudd that Brenda van Dam denies making any such comment and a victim witness advocate who accompanies her each day backs up her account.

Testimony in the Westerfield trial is on hold until July 22 when Mudd returns from a vacation. At Thursday's hearing, Feldman said he expects the defense will take two or three days more before resting its case. Prosecutors may then present rebuttal witnesses before closing arguments begin sometime in late July or early August.

 

Contact staff writer Kimberly Epler at (760) 739-6644 or kepler@nctimes.com.

7/12/02


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: 180frank; vandam; westerfield
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To: SouthernFreebird
You rode the short bus to school didn't ya .....lol

Nice...a sentence as short as your attention span AND length of schooling. The poster's attempt at sarcasm flew completely over your mullet-topped head, and your reference to the "short bus" serves only to reveal your preconceptions and prejudices (as does your rather witty user name).

Fly, Thunderbird, Fly!

201 posted on 07/13/2002 2:49:42 PM PDT by Stiv
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To: Ditter
I made that reply because of what you said in your post #44 on this thread:

" If anyone mistakes my reply as a defense of the VD's lifestyle they are mistaken."

Ditter, you are the one who brought up the lifestyle, and I did not mention it in my original post to you. Since my reply was #45, answering your #44, you could have easily read what you wrote and saved us all some trouble.

202 posted on 07/13/2002 2:50:51 PM PDT by MizSterious
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To: MizSterious
Please tell me you don't get your information from Jams forum......have you seen 'Its' history? I say it because 'it' doesn't know if itself is male or female......it started out a male and became a female..... a known internet liar for many years.......she also believes the Ramseys are innocent.....lol

You should read the history of Jams before linking to her site. Oh and ask her about the snakes....... lolololol. She's a code-six wing nut as ST and the BPD says.
203 posted on 07/13/2002 2:51:46 PM PDT by SouthernFreebird
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To: Ditter
Yes, it is normal. I agree.

I think the problem is that for a few, normal is a relative term. However, more appear to believe that in order to recognize it, there needs to be some standard assumed.

Many, many people think that the van Dams flunked the "normal" test. That's why Damon's actions now seem much like too little; too late.

I don't think "normal" is the question........I think "sincerity" is.

204 posted on 07/13/2002 2:52:32 PM PDT by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: SouthernFreebird
"... a known internet liar for many years..."

And you would be know as....?

205 posted on 07/13/2002 2:56:20 PM PDT by MizSterious
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To: FresnoDA; Jaded
Silly Song parody BUMP

"Poway bound" (Allentown -Billy Joel)

Well we're waitin' to get Poway bound
But we just can't get our story down.
In the courtroom Dusek's killing time,
a questionable case,
we screwed up the lies.
Well the guys thought they were going to score,
took 'em home then I checked on the doors.
Barb and Damon up there getting nude,
called 'em downstairs,
and said they were rude.
And we're waitin' to be Poway bound.

But the bailiff didn't want him around,
And Damon has to keep away-a-ay-a-ay-a-ay.

Well we're waitin' to get Poway bound.
and back to closing all the nightclubs down.
All the testimony that we gave,
dancing at Dad's,
and we didn't behave.
Now the jurors sit & stare at the wall
but the lying never helped us at all.
Other people told 'em what was real,
Barcardi and coke
and Barb grabbed a feel.
And we're waitin' to be Poway bound.

But they'll look at what they've already found.
And they'll put Da-mon away-a-ay-a-ay-a-ay.

Damon thinks he's got a pretty good shot
to get arrested just like Westerfield got.
A prosecution without the DA's race,
And all the cameras stuck right in my face.

Well I'm waitin' to get Poway bound.
And I've never turned a good doobie down,
But I won't be getting stoned today-a-ay-a-ay-a-ay.

We've been acting like a bunch of stray-a-ay-a-ay-a-ays
And we're waitin' to get Poway bound.

206 posted on 07/13/2002 2:58:12 PM PDT by dread78645
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To: Stiv

lemme guess, you shared a seat with him.
207 posted on 07/13/2002 2:59:51 PM PDT by SouthernFreebird
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To: MizSterious
My post was addressed to you, but the sentance in which I used the word "anyone" meant just that. ANYONE (who read it) was what I meant. You seem to be upset because I mentioned the VD's "lifestyle" in a post to you & you hadn't said anything about lifestyle. OK you didn't mention it. Almost everyone else on here does mention it at some time or other, I was addressing them.
208 posted on 07/13/2002 3:01:45 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: MizSterious
Is it just me or are you having a hard time figuring out what someone ???? is talking about?

I think I need a break. Maybe I'll return later and it will become clear.

209 posted on 07/13/2002 3:04:50 PM PDT by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: Southflanknorthpawsis
I think we have an invasion of the trolls. They don't need to make sense in order to disrupt.

210 posted on 07/13/2002 3:06:15 PM PDT by MizSterious
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To: MizSterious
BUMP! ditto BUMP!
211 posted on 07/13/2002 3:07:25 PM PDT by GoRepGo
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To: MizSterious
LOL. I think you're right. I'll go do some shopping and maybe they will be asleep when I come back. Later.....
212 posted on 07/13/2002 3:08:46 PM PDT by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: mommya
From the preliminary hearing transcripts: and I went 28 to Derrick's room, and he was still reading, and I asked 6371 him just to turn the light off when he was done reading, 2 because he usually puts himself to bed a few minutes later. 3 And cracked all their doors a crack. They wanted them 4 open, but I was going to watch TV. So I just left them a 5 crack open.6 Q. When you say a crack, can you estimate for us 7 about how big the opening --8 A. Six inches, eight inches............................................................................................................ A. I went downstairs. My son was already up.2 Q. Which son?3 A. Derrick.4 Q. What did you do?5 A. Talked to him for a minute and asked him what he 6 needed -- what he wanted for breakfast, and started making 7 him breakfast, pop tarts.8 Q. Then what happened?9 A. My other son -- actually I'm not positive if 10 Dylen was down there, too. I think Dylen got up a 11 little -- a few minutes later and joined us downstairs, and 12 I made him pop tarts, also, and myself a waffle.13 Q. And your wife was where?14 A. Upstairs.15 Q. After you had the little breakfast with the boys, 16 what happened?17 A. Brenda came downstairs, and I think she did the 18 dishes. She started doing some dishes while I took some 19 garbage out.20 Q. Where's your garbage?21 A. The garbage cans are on the side of the house 22 outside the garage, side door.23 Q. Then what?24 A. We went back upstairs for a little while.25 Q. After that, what happened?26 A. Came back downstairs, and she started to make 27 breakfast for the other kids. The neighbor's kids came 28 over. 6511 Q. Was something supposed to happen with the 2 neighbor's kids?3 A. Yeah. We were watching the neighbor's children.4 Q. About what time was it that the neighbor kids 5 came over, if you can estimate?6 A. 9:00, around 9:00.7 Q. When they got there, what happened?8 A. They played some with the boys, and Danielle's 9 friend asked about Danielle. So Brenda told her she could 10 go wake Danielle up.11 Q. Is that where you thought she was? Where did you 12 think Danielle was?13 A. In bed.14 Q. Was that unusual for her to sleep that late?15 A. No. Not at all.16 Q. Why not?17 A. She was always the last one up.18 Q. Then what happened?19 A. Brenda went up to wake Danielle up, and found she 20 wasn't there. Called down to me, asking where Danielle 21 was, and I said in bed, and we started to search for her.

I find I have a lot of questions in regard to what Damon has said in this testimony. If the kids wanted there doors left open why didn't he leave them open? To say he was going to watch TV as the reason not to doesn't make sense as the bedrooms are upstairs and he was watching downstairs. Then next morning the boys are already downstairs when he comes down (at least one)he is not sure of the other. Makes them breakfast. Brenda comes down and does the dishes while Damon takes the garbage out. THEN THEY BOTH GO BACK UPSTAIRS (to do what?) AND STILL DON'T LOOK IN ON DANIELLE. IS HER DOOR STILL OPEN THE 6 TO 8 INCHES? Next neighbor kids come and Brenda makes them breakfast. I would think by 9:00-9:30 their own parents would have given them breakfast before coming to be watched by the VanDams. Now look at the next statement. Brenda tells the friend she can go wake up Danielle. Wouldn't you think the child would have come running back to say Danielle wasn't there? Damon doesn't mention this. Next he says Brenda went up to wake up Danielle.

Questions! Questions! Question! and if I was sitting on the jury I would have lots of them.

213 posted on 07/13/2002 3:26:24 PM PDT by Spunky
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To: SouthernFreebird
lemme guess, you shared a seat with him.

No, you did...and by saying that I've let you drag me down to your inane level of commentary.

Look, you're the one who popped up and said "Let's string him up!" without explaining why you felt the evidence was so heavily weighted against him that a trial wasn't even necessary. If you're such a "Southern Freebird," I would imagine you don't like sticking around in a place so long that your "boots get cold," so why don't you take that lonesome midnight train down to Mulletville, South Carolina where you can preach to the double-digit IQ crowd that will make you feel at home?

Perhaps you'll even get a chance to ride on the "long" bus....

 

214 posted on 07/13/2002 3:39:08 PM PDT by Stiv
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To: Spunky
I'm sorry, that is incorrect. Barb, or as she is affectionaly known, Barracuda Barb, has no particular preference. It matters not whether it is male or female. It matters not whether it walks, crawls, or slithers so long as it isn't creepy. Were I the one, I should be most concerned about communicable diseases.
215 posted on 07/13/2002 3:42:54 PM PDT by Jaded
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To: SouthernFreebird
As opposed to say, The Ned Forum (TNF)?
216 posted on 07/13/2002 3:44:19 PM PDT by Jaded
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To: Spunky
I agree with you spunk, Post 192...
217 posted on 07/13/2002 3:53:47 PM PDT by FresnoDA
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To: Stiv
Your right about one thing....we should string up every child/rapist/murderer.....send them immediately to h*ll.

Westerfield is no innocent.....her blood was found on him... and in his motorhome, that alone would do it for me.... no reason for that girls blood to be on him ...that along with all the other evidence and CHILD porn leads me to believe he was up to no good with that little girl and she is now dead. What other conclusion / explanation could there be?

Many here don't like the VDams and defend this perv in their holier than thou smugness in wanting to see immoral people (VD's) get their dues.
SoI guess I will head back to mulletville North/SouthCarolina where we don't cotton to perverts who rape and kill our babies.
218 posted on 07/13/2002 3:53:52 PM PDT by SouthernFreebird
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To: SouthernFreebird
Hey SF...just for you..I am working on a VERY SPECIAL SONG PARODY...Stand by...LOL
219 posted on 07/13/2002 3:55:48 PM PDT by FresnoDA
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To: Jaded
.....Just what I thought......most of you posters here are probably the voices in Jams head. lol.... Steve Rocks!
220 posted on 07/13/2002 3:56:15 PM PDT by SouthernFreebird
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