FR Current Events Project: Keeping Tabs on the Media's Attacks on Bush and the Republican Party

All Media Sources | July 10, 2002

[Howlin]

I have honestly lost count of all the lies and distortions being thrown about in the press these last few weeks concerning Bush and his agenda, and the things going on in and around this country, especially concerning the government, the DOJ, and the Congress.

I would like to use this thread -- and you other Freepers -- to compile a COMPLETE THREAD of all the various errors we find in and among the articles we read on here and the news shows that we see daily on TV.

My thoughts are that if we get them all on one thread, maybe we can figure out what the heck is going on in this country and, more importantly in my opinion, WHO is doing it.

Please include the URL for the article or news report you will add to the list; if it is not from a thread on FR, please copy and paste the article, along with date, time, and source to this thread in order to preserve the information.

As always, be careful which newspapers/magazines you post full articles from.

I believe we are in a full frontal fight for the life of this country, the Supreme Court, and the things we believe in. We need to prepare ourselves to refute all the distortions being continually spewed over the airwaves and in the papers of this country.

Now, get to work!

[kcvl]

Another former IGI investigator described the firm as ruthless, taking its cue from Terry F. Lenzner, its founder and chairman.

"I'm just afraid of him," said the ex-employee. "He's not a nice guy all the time. On some things about Terry, I'm a fan. But all investigators can be aggressive. That's why people hire us. So I'm just nervous about that."

Mr. Lenzner, who served as assistant chief counsel for the Senate Watergate Committee from 1973 to 1975, founded IGI in 1984. With offices in London, Frankfurt, Germany, and five major cities in the United States, the Washington-based firm is now among the most sophisticated private-investigation companies in the world, Mr. Lenzner told Senate lawyers last year.

"That's one of the selling points of the firm," Mr. Shapiro said. "And he's not just any lawyer. He's a Harvard-educated lawyer with a background of being a federal prosecutor in the Southern District of New York, which many --not just its alumni -- consider the pre-eminent office in the country.

In early 1996, for example, he did not respond to many phone calls and e-mail messages from one of his employees, Susan Swanson, the first investigator to obtain evidence that the Unabomber was a hitherto unknown hermit named Theodore Kaczynski.

A skeptical IGI President Raymond W. Kelly reluctantly agreed to review Miss Swanson's evidence. But by the time Mr. Kelly responded, Miss Swanson had resorted to turning over the case to an outside lawyer. IGI had missed out on the Unabomber case.

IGI's proposal to dig up dirt on Sen. Don Nickles and his wife resulted in an angry confrontation when Mr. Lenzner appeared before the Senate Governmental Affairs Committee.

"I don't mind you messing with me," the Oklahoma Republican told him. "But I sure mind you messing with my family."

Mr. Lenzner's proposal was designed to help Cheyenne-Arapaho Indians reclaim tribal lands from the Interior Department.

[Darlin']

Here's a friendly little piece from the president's good friends at the NYT, 11 July issue. Bush Calls for End to Loans of a Type He Once Received

[Mo1]

Yes I remember that

Speaking of Hilda

Hillary Fund-raiser Sentenced to 19 Months for Mail Fraud

[Darlin']

Oh, yeah. Nickles got plenty hot about it, too. I don't blame him.

[Mo1]

Don't forget the Clinton library .. I could be wrong but they don't have to release the names of donors for that

[kcvl]

Clinton: Playing the Game the Way He Always Has
7/27/1998

Congressman Bob Barr

Terry Lenzner, known for his no-holds barred tactics, has been hired by the Clinton defense team to dig up dirt on anyone critical of the President. Lenzener's firm played a lead role in the effort to smear two of our nation's leading conservative jurists, Robert Bork and Clarence Thomas, during their Senate confirmation hearings.

Lenzner has visited the White House a half dozen times. On one visit, he met with Deputy Chief of Staff Harold Ickes who, amazingly enough, has once again been rendered unable to remember what was discussed. His hit list, according to a former employee, could include the independent counsel, federal prosecutors, and members of the Judiciary Committee

The attempt to muzzle critics doesn't end with sending investigators out to dig dirt. White House staff -- on taxpayer time, paid for with citizens' tax dollars, and under the supervision of Hillary Clinton -- have worked to silence investigative reporters at such publications as The Washington Post who have gotten too close to the truth. Susan Schmidt, the lead Whitewater reporter for the Post, was the target of a critical report prepared by White House lawyers at the insistence of Hillary Clinton. When he learned of this tactic, even White House Press Secretary Mike McCurry admitted it was "the dumbest idea I've ever heard in my life."

These tactics -- trying to silence the press, drawing up enemies lists, and looking for dirt on opponents -- are not the actions of an innocent man with nothing to hide. Nor are they the actions of the President of a free society that places a high premium on civil liberties.

The actions of the President, his wife, and many of their associates are more reminiscent of a third world dictator than of the leader of a free republic. However, the greatest tragedy has not yet occurred. If these abuses go unpunished, succeeding generations of politicians will follow Clinton's example and push the bounds of ethics and law much further into an ethical abyss than he has.

However, there may be a positive side to all this. As Lady Margaret Thatcher put it, when your opponents start slinging mud, you should take heart, because it is a clear signal that they have run out of rational arguments. Bill Clinton knows the truth is knocking on his door. He's trying to keep it out the only way he knows how. We must ensure he fails in this effort. The very survival of our Republic is at stake.

[Mo1]

WOW .. I don't remember that .. I bet he was hot

Speaking of OK .. isn't there some kind of connection with the Clintons and an Oil Company from OK

[Darlin']

Just reading about those sleezy people again and their tactics makes me positively ill.

[kcvl]

Terry F. Lenzner's firm was awarded a no-bid grant from the State Department in 1994 shortly after the president's private lawyers retained him to do work in the Whitewater and Paula Jones cases, records show.

Lenzner's lawyer says none of his White House visits, nor the grant had anything to do with his work for Clinton's lawyers.

The records obtained by The Associated Press provide the first detail of Lenzner's contacts inside the administration. They come as the Whitewater prosecutors' intense search for derogatory information about their office and independent counsel Kenneth Starr spread into Arkansas.

Lenzner has already been questioned before a federal grand jury about whether he dug up any of the information about Starr's office that made its way to reporters since the Monica Lewinsky probe began. On Thursday, two former Arkansas state troopers, Tommy Goodwin and O. H. (Bill) Mullenax, who operated a private investigation business, also were subpoenaed.

Mullenax said his firm was hired in November 1996 by a Grand Rapids, Mich., client to do photo surveillance on a woman in Little Rock, Ark. Mullenax said he did not do surveillance of Starr.

Secret Service entry logs obtained by AP show Lenzner was cleared in to the White House four times in April and May 1996 to see then-Deputy Chief of Staff Harold Ickes, and actually arrived twice.

Lenzner's lawyer, Howard Shapiro, said the investigator met once with Ickes. He said the meeting was to discuss potential investigative work for Lenzner's company, The Investigative Group Inc., that "eventually never materialized."

Shapiro declined to describe the nature of the potential work.

At the time of the visits, Ickes and the White House were grappling with a politically explosive problem that would land Lenzner work -- investigating the delivery of $640,000 in suspicious donations to the president's legal defense fund by controversial fund-raiser Yah Lin "Charlie" Trie.

But Shapiro said the Ickes' meeting had nothing to do with Trie's donations or two other pieces of Clinton-related work -- Lenzner's 1994 hiring by Clinton's private lawyers in the Whitewater and Paula Jones cases or his hiring by the Democratic Party to investigate suspicious donations in 1997.

Ickes, who left the White House more than a year ago after serving as Clinton's top political lieutenant, said he could not recall meeting the investigator at the White House but could not rule it out because they have known each other for 20 years.

Shapiro said the rest of Lenzner's visits to the White House over four years included two tours, a public event for Mexico's president and a lunch with former White House drug czar Lee P. Brown. He said Lenzner never met Clinton personally.

Documents also show that in summer 1994 Lenzner's firm received a grant worth hundreds of thousands of dollars from the State Department. The money allowed the firm to send its president, former New York City police chief Raymond Kelly, to train Haitian police and supervise international police monitoring in the Caribbean nation after a military crisis there.

State officials said the grant was made to IGI because the company was Kelly's employer at the time and it was not put up for competitive bidding because it was urgent to get a top lawman to Haiti to supervise the transition of power to local police between September 1994 and March 1995.

Shapiro said the contract was the only one Lenzner's company, one of the most prestigious private investigative agencies in the country, has received since Clinton has been in office.

[Mo1]

Mr. Lenzner, who served as assistant chief counsel for the Senate Watergate Committee from 1973 to 1975

Geeez .. this is making my head spin

[kcvl]

Kenneth Timmerman wrote an article for the November 1997 issue of the American Spectator entitled ? Al Gore?s Arab Moneyman.? Timmerman reported that Al Gore had been promoting the nomination of Edward Gabriel to become U.S. Ambassador to Morroco. The article claimed Gabriel raised money for Arab ?charities? connected by PLO Chairman, Yasser Arafat, to the military wing of the terrorist group Hamas. Timmerman interviewed George Cody, the executive director of the pro-Syrian task force of Lebanon. Cody told Timmerman that Gore had an excellent relationship with Gabriel and that Gore was a driving force behind Gabriel?s nomination.

Also, Timmerman reported that Gabriel had sat together with James Zogby and Abdulrahman Alamoudi on the steering committee of the Arab Americans for Clinton/Gore ?96. The ?Moneyman? article described a ?former DNC employee? who alleged that Gabriel served as a conduit for campaign contributions to the DNC from Arab businessmen in Saudi Arabia, Lebanon, and Syria. The source claimed the funds were solicited by Gabriel and Zogby, and then paid out to Arab Americans, who then legally contributed to the Gore/Clinton campaign in amounts of $1000, $5000, and even $10000.

Abdulrahman Alamoudi was executive director of the American Muslim Council (AMC) in April 1996. Abdulrahman met with Clinton?s National Security Advisor, Anthony Lake, in the White House on December 8, 1995 to receive a briefing on the Dayton Peace Agreement and to represent the interests of the Muslim Community. This access to the White House may have been connected to the donations arranged by Ed Gabriel for Gore and the DNC.

The suspicion of the possibility of Gore?s connection to the AMC and Gabriel and receiving campaign contributions from Arab terrorist groups is further heightened by another article published by Timmerman in the April 1997 issue of the American Spectator. Timmerman reported that Anthony Lake helped a company, Occidental Petroleum, closely connected to Gore and his father, obtain an exemption from the 1996 anti-terrorism act in order for Occidental to pursue a lucrative oil deal in Sudan.

Allegedly, Lake was involved in the ordering of the Treasury Department to write regulations that took the teeth out of the anti-terrorism law and thereby permitted the exemption. Gore and his father had close business dealings and stock holdings in Occidental Petroleum at the time and also had long time relations with the Occidental Chairman, Armand Hammer, who in turn had close ties with the Soviet Union.

William Grigg, writing in the April 14, 1997 issue of the New American Magazine noted that Sudan played a pivotal role in an Islamic terrorist network that Anthony Lake used to create a Iran-Bosnia arms pipeline.

Jack Kelly reported in an October 29, 1999, article of U.S.A. Today, entitled ?Saudi Money Aiding Bin Laden,? that Capitol Trust Bank of New York and London was being investigated by U.S. and British officials for allegedly transferring millions of dollars to terrorist Bin Laden from five top Saudi Arabian businessmen. It is very disturbing that the banker who heads up Capitol Trust Bank, Mohammed Alamoudi, has legally been represented in Washington D.C., by Vernon Jordan, a close confidante of Clinton with ties to Gore.

Furthermore, note that Alamoudi is the same last name of the individual Timmerman reported had ties to Ed Gabriel, Arab terrorists and Al Gore and those who had arranged questionable if not illegal contributions to the Gore/Clinton campaign in 1996. It is not known whether or not Mohammed and Abdulrahuran Alamoudi are related or unrelated or know each other.

Republican Congressman Dana Rohrabacher accused the US State Department and its Assistant Secretary, Karl Inderfurth, of withholding key documents from Congress that Rohrabacher claimed would show that the Clinton and Gore administration had supported the Taliban militia in Afghanistan. This story was reported by the UPI and author Joe Warminsky on October 20, 1999. The Taliban has widely been acknowledged as hiding and protecting the terrorist Bin Laden.

Another troubling connection between terrorist Bin Laden and the Clinton and Gore administration is the DOJ and FBI handling of an Egyptian, Ali Mohammed, who worked directly for Bin Laden and the CIA and the FBI and the Green Berets and was involved in Arab terrorist attacks against the World Trade Center and the US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania. Ali first worked training Green Berets, then worked for the CIA before becoming an FBI operative out of Sacramento, California from 1992 to 1996.

Ali was indicted in New York in late 1998 for helping Bin Laden do the bombings of the World Trade Center and the US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania. He was also indicted for setting up and training Bin Laden terrorist cells in the US. When arrested he had manuals for how to hide explosives in public buildings. He is suspected of helping Bin Laden by writing terrorist training manuals for Bin Laden.

Ali worked with Bin Laden?s secretary, El Hage, and a terrorist group out of Dallas, Texas that may have helped Hamas terrorist groups in OKC assist McVeigh in the OKC bombing. El Hage complained to the judge at his hearing that El Hage and other FBI operatives had in fact warned the US about the Kenyan and Tanzanian bombings.

It was reported by the New York Times that the FBI had detailed plans and advanced warnings for over five months for the bombings of the embassies and the World Trade Center and nothing adequate was done to try to stop the bombings.

Did Ali and El Hage provide information to the FBI in advance about these bombings? Did Clinton and Gore and Reno order the FBI to ignore the advanced warnings and plans that the FBI did have even if they did not come from Ali and El Hage? Was Lake involved in not stopping these bombings? Was there a mole or spy in the administration? Or were the bombings deliberately allowed or caused to happen? Were the Clinton and Gore administration?s connections to Bin Laden at play in not stopping these Bin Laden bombings??

Steve Emerson, a noted terrorism expert and producer of ?Jihad In American? for PBS, wrote an editorial for the Wall Street Journal on March 13, 1996 entitled ?Friends of Hamas In the White House.? Emerson said ?the contacts between the White House and Islamic radicals began on November 9, 1995, when President Clinton and Vice President Al Gore met with Abdulrahman Alamoudi, executive director of the American Muslim Council (AMC), as part of a meeting with 23 Muslim and Arab leaders.?

Emerson quoted Seif Ashmarvy, the American Muslim publisher of the Voice of Peace in New Jersey. Ashmarvy said ?the American Muslim Council is a radical group that supports radical Islamic terrorist movements.? Ashmarvy also said he felt ?totally betrayed by the Clinton administration.?

Emerson reported that Abdulrahman Alamoudi in an April 1995 press conference denounced the counter terrorism legislation in Congress and angrily dismissed suggestions that Hamas was a terrorist group.

The AMC responded to Emerson?s article in April 1996 in a press release ?Reading Between the Lines, AMC?s Rebuttal to Steve Emerson?s Charges.? In rebuttal, AMC asserted that Hamas should not be condemned for extreme actions by those in the military front of Hamas. AMC President Dr. Mohammed Cheema is also quoted in the AMC rebuttal as saying ?Israel must talk to Hamas? since Cheema believed Palestinians were following Hamas.

Anthony Lake gave a speech to the Council on Foreign relations in the Fall of 1994 in which Lake said the chief cornerstone of US foreign policy was to ?pit our tolerant society against ??.militias and domestic and foreign rogue groups in the US. The Lake speech was quoted on page 39 of an August 1995 issue of the New York Times Sunday Magazine (Lake is on the front cover).

Shortly after the OKC bombing Clinton and Gore expressed their sympathies for innocent Arab Americans. But Clinton and Gore also wrongly blamed other Americans who were conservative Christians, militia members and conservative radio talk show hosts who Gore and Clinton knew were not involved. Clinton and Gore never apologized to those Americans whom they smeared and defamed.

Clinton and Gore deliberately carried out the program outlined by Lake in his speech to ?pit our tolerant society against? those in America Clinton, Gore and Lake wanted to discredit and turn our society against, the conservative Christians, the conservative talk radio hosts, and members of militias. When Clinton, Gore and Lake were through with their propaganda, they had succeeded in having the label of ? anti-government conspirator? applied against anyone who questioned government investigations to make the government more accountable to the people.

There is considerable evidence to suggest that Clinton, Gore, Lake, the DOJ, and the FBI conducted and covered up a failed sting operation in the OKC bombing and then used the failure to discredit Americans who are conservative Christians, militia members and conservative talk radio hosts. There also is considerable evidence of extreme forewarning of terrorist attacks against a Federal Building in OKC in April 1995 which Gore and Clinton did not have the Federal government pass on to the 169 innocent citizens killed on April 19,1995.

It is known that the White House and DOJ intervened in early May 1995 to stop all FBI searches for John Does involved in the OKC bombing. In fact the cover up started at least as early as April 21, 1995 when the FBI shut down the John Doe investigations by the FBI threatening court martial against Army recruiters for talking about having seen McVeigh in the Murrah Building with John Does. This was not an attempt to catch bad guys because no effort was made by the FBI to have sketches made of the John Does seen by the Army recruiters.

While the vast majority of Arab Americans are peace loving and law abiding, a continuation of an FBI investigation of Middle Eastern men possibly involved should not have been portrayed by Clinton and Gore as racist or defamatory toward Arabs as a group.

The FBI was also ordered to stop the FBI searches for two Middle Eastern men who had been the subject of an FBI all points bulletin broadcast on OKC television stations for a week after the bombing. A number of FBI agents were greatly disturbed by the DOJ having the FBI call off pursuit of the Middle Eastern men seen at the Murrah Building around McVeigh by many witnesses on April 19,1995.

Not only was the FBI taken off the investigating Middle Eastern John Does but the Assistant US attorney Ted Richardson was taken off his investigation of the employer of an Iraqi, Al Hussaini, sued by KFORTV in OKC for their stories trying to link Hussaini to McVeigh and the bombing. Richardson was found dead of a shot gun blast to the chest in 1997 near his church. And the FBI and US prosecutors refused until February 1999 to receive evidence from a former KFORTV reporter of witnesses linking McVeigh to seven Middle Eastern men who allegedly helped McVeigh.

Herb Johnson, the Chief of Staff for US Senator James Inhofe, was told by an FBI agent in the FBI command post that the DOJ was concerned how the DOJ could keep the public from knowing about the involvement of Middle Eastern men in the OKC bombing.

According to OKC police officer, Don Browning, FBI agent Floyd Zimms deliberately gave out false information about the getaway car of two Middle Eastern (Pakistani) suspects detained at the Dallas airport on April 19,1995 that may have led to their premature release. Zimms also allegedly falsified an FBI 302 interview report with a key witness implicating Middle Eastern men in the OKC bombing. It has been alleged by a very reliable source that Zimms now works for the CIA and may have worked for the CIA and FBI at the time of the bombing.

As noted earlier in this article, the AMC has tried to assert that Hamas is not primarily a terrorist organization and that Israel should be caused to have to negotiate with Hamas. Israeli Prime Minister Rabin and his terrorism advisor, Yigal Carmon, offered help to the US after the OKC bombing and stated publicly they believed Hamas terrorists were involved in the OKC bombing. Clinton and Gore rejected the Israeli offer.

Yet the former Chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, Democratic Congressman Dave McCurdy of Oklahoma, wrote in a May 1995 issue of the Oklahoma Gazette that a well established terrorist Hamas cell in OKC was probably involved in the OKC bombing. McCurdy wrote that that the Hamas cell in OKC had demolition experts and that the FBI had shown McCurdy training films used by the Hamas cell.

Furthermore, two OKC deputy sheriffs, Don Hammons and David Kochendoerfer, stated at a press conference in early 1998 that Congressman Ernest Istook told the sheriffs on the evening of April 19, 1995 that a local Arab terrorist group had made a threat against a Federal Building in OKC on April 9, 1995. FBI agent James Carlysle tried to intimidate Kochendoerfer and is strongly believed Carlysle falsified his 302 interview report with the sheriff.

Janice Roberts, staff director for a Senate Subcommittee on Terrorism told me there has been a well established Hamas terrorist cell in OKC for more than ten years. Governor Frank Keating?s brother, Martin Keating, told me on KTOK radio that Hamas had a well established terrorist cell in OKC. Martin Keating?s book, ?the Final Jihad?, contains a story line of a Middle Eastern attack on a Federal building in Oklahoma and his book was written before the OKC bombing.

A representative of Terry Lenzner?s investigative firm, IGI, contacted a KFORTV reporter shortly after the OKC bombing and wanted to assist in the KFORTV investigation. The IGI offer was declined and soon thereafter KFORTV was bought by the New York Times (very unusual). And around the same time the Iraqi Al Hussaini sued KFORTV with the help of OK governor Keating?s law associate Gary Richardson., and the New York Times then sued a KFORTV reporter close to the investigation of the Middle Eastern connection to the OKC bombing. After these events, the KFORTV investigations of a possible Middle East connection were drastically curtailed.

Did Lenzner and IGI really want to help KFORTV or did they want to help stop an investigation that might show Clinton, Gore and Lake complicity in a failed sting operation and its cover up involving Middle Eastern men? Were the misfortunes of KFORTV, the lawsuits against KFORTV and their reporters, aided by Lenzner when KFORTV declined to let IGI be involved in their investigation?

Terry Lenzner, founder of IGI, hired two FBI men involved in the OKC bombing investigation, Larry Potts (of Ruby Ridge fame), and Howard Shapiro, the White House legal counsel for the FBI. Lenzner is a close friend of Hillary Clinton and both served on the legal team for the Watergate Committee. Lenzner also knows Anthony Lake and Strobe Talbot, the Deputy Secretary of State.

These questions about Lenzner are also raised in part because of what is also known about Lenzner?s connections to investigations performed by IGI for the White House. Lenzner is alleged to have investigated twenty Congressmen involved in the impeachment hearings. Lenzner is also alleged to have investigated women who made accusations against Clinton. Clinton acknowledged in a formal response to Henry Hyde?s interrogatories that Lenzner?s firm IGI had been used in investigations for the White House.

At the time of the impeachment and the Senate trial, it is known that US Congressmen and Senators had evidence concerning the OKC bombing and of alleged illegal campaign contributions made to Clinton and Gore and the DNC by Arab groups suspected of being connected to terrorists. Yet the Congressmen were blocked from bringing up much evidence in the Senate trial not related to Lewinsky by Democratic and Republican Senators according to the legal counsel for the House Mangers, David Schippers, in his book ?Sellout?.

Lenzner investigated the wife of Republican Senator Nickles from Oklahoma sometime shortly after the OKC bombing and Nickles angrily confronted Lenzner about this in Senate hearings. Nickles is the second most senior and ranking Republican in the Senate behind Trent Lott.

Did the alleged Terry Lenzner?s investigations of the twenty Congressmen and also of one or more Republican Senators in any way contribute to evidence being blocked at the Senate trial? Did the blocked evidence relate to possible illegal campaign contributions to Gore and Clinton from Arab terrorist groups some of whom may have been involved in the OKC bombing? Did any of the blocked evidence pertain to possible Gore and Clinton complicity and coverup of a failed Federal sting operation that involved Middle Eastern men and that was used to discredit militias, conservative Christians, and conservative talk radio hosts?

There is even more information pertaining to Lenzner?s possible role in the OKC bombing case. Lenzner was part owner of a Tulsa, Oklahoma company once called Hawkins Oil. Hawkins employed a Pakistani who was a member of the Islamic Society of Tulsa and who has worked with Arab students on the campus of Tulsa University.

The Hawkins Oil employee made one or business trips to Pakistan and the region near Afghanistan where the terrorist Bin Laden resides. An Arab informant has told an OKC police officer that the Pakistani employee of Hawkins Oil was placed together with the employer of the Iraqi, Al Husseini, who sued KFORTV. According to the OKC police officer, the FBI intervened directly with the informant to shut down the investigation of the Hawkins Oil employee?s connections by the OKC police officer.

Also, recall that Dr, Mohammed Cheema, a Pakistani, is president of the AMC connected to Edward Gabriel and Gore by Timmerman and Emerson. It is not known whether or not the Hawkins Oil employee and Dr. Mohammed Cheema are related or know each other.

Also, an Indian newspaper, NewsToday, reported in June 2000, that Mohammed Arshad Cheema of Pakistan had helped Pakistani and Mujahideen (connected to Bin Laden) terrorists hijack an Indian plane, flight IC-814.

It is not known whether or not the Hawkins Oil employee, Dr. Mohammed Cheema, and Mohammed Arshad Cheema are relatives or know each other. However, all three are Pakistanis. And it was reported on Freerepublic.com by Free Vulcan on October 11, 2000 that Clinton has had longstanding connections with Pakistani terrorists, drug and gun runners, and hit men associated with BCCI. Also recall earlier in this article the story about FBI agent and CIA operative Floyd Zimms deliberately giving out false information about the getaway car of two Pakistani suspects detained at the Dallas airport on April 19,1995, an action that caused their premature release. p> Was there a connection between any of the Pakistanis, Terry Lenzner, Vernon Jordan, Clinton, Gore or Bin Laden with the OKC bombing case and with campaign contributions from Arab groups associated with Arab terrorists??

The US State Department of Gore and Clinton is populated by men like Strobe Talbot, a friend of Lake and Lenzner. These are the men who tilted US foreign policy in the Middle East toward the AMC, Arafat, the PLO, and the terrorist group Hamas starting at least as early as 1994 and 1995. It is not surprising that a member of this State Department recently implied in a memo released on the Drudgereport.com on October 18, 2000 that 100 Palestinians killed in Israel are worth more than 17 US sailors killed in the terrorist attack on the USS Cole believed to have been tied to Bin Laden.

The problem is that there is evidence that suggests that Gore and Clinton knowingly received and perhaps solicited campaign contributions from Arab groups associated with known terrorist groups.

Has anyone asked Vernon Jordan why he is the lawyer for the banker whose bank was being investigated for funneling millions of dollars to terrorist Bin Laden?

Has anyone asked Gore and Clinton to explain and justify their receiving contributions from alleged Arab terrorist organizations and tilting US foreign policy toward these groups?

What was the role of Gore and Clinton in the foreknowledge and cover up of a Federal sting operation involving Middle Eastern men in the OKC bombing?

[PhiKapMom]

There is a connection between Oklahoma Natural Gas, RON BROWN, the clintons and a murder here in Norman that has been ruled a suspicious death by unknown means -- believe the guys name was Miller. The Lum Family of Tulsa had some members go to jail about campaign financing and they are somehow tied into this. Now here is another tidbit. The former RAT Governor, Walters who should be in prison but he plea bargained down to one count and got probabation on campaign fundraising, is running against Sen Inhofe. And he is just back from a NY fundraiser hosted by ms. clinton. Now here is the real tidbit -- he was scheduled to go on the Ron Brown trade mission, but at the last minute begged off because of a back problem. Coincidence?

[kcvl]

I don't think there is a chart on the planet to hold all of this sleaze!

[PhiKapMom]

I am beginning to agree with you -- the sleeze is piling up rapidly! What started out as a thread about news articles is turning into a connect the dots.

I am sitting here in amazement!

[kcvl]

Two other men close to Freeh left the FBI under a great cloud of suspicion. Freeh insisted that Larry Potts become his deputy but Potts was forced out for lying about Ruby Ridge. Freeh’s other close associate was Howard Shapiro, the White House Legal counsel to the FBI who left after his involvement in Filegate became known. Also it has been widely alleged in print and on TV that Freeh and Shapiro together rose to prominence in the FBI for their falsifying of evidence in the bombing of a judge in Georgia.

Today both Potts and Shapiro enjoy fat cushy jobs at Terry Lenzer’s IGI. Lenzner is a 30 year friend and former coworker of Hilary Clinton.

Congress and the DOJ found the FBI crime lab falsified evidence in scores of cases during Freeh’s tenure.

Allegations have been made that Freeh repressed efforts by Fredrick Whitehurst to have the FBI crime lab investigated. Weldon Kennedy, Freeh’s second hand picked deputy who replaced Potts, left the FBI after Senator Grassley accused Kennedy of lying to Congress about the FBI crime lab. Kennedy and Potts were also both in charge of the FBI's OKC bombing investigation and coverup, first Potts, then Kennedy.

Late last year FBI agent Joseph Rogoskey filed a Federal suit against Louis Freeh for Freeh blocking his efforts to have actions taken against FBI superiors who had been involved in alleged illegal acts involving national security operations.

There is evidence that suggests Freeh, Potts and Shapiro may have orchestrated and covered up Waco and the OKC bombing. According to an interview on KTOK radio in OKC in 1998, Freeh is alleged to have travelled to Germany to arrange use of Andreas Strassmeyer as an FBI operative to infiltrate white supremicist groups in the US. The KTOK report said this story was confirmed by US prosecutor Beth Wilkinson. It is believed that Strassmeyer, who McVeigh called before the OKC bombing, encouraged McVeigh and told the FBI about the bombing attempt in advance.

Larry Potts was in charge of the day to day operations of the FBI investigation of the OKC bombing from April 19, 1995 to May 2, 1995 and may haveparticipated with Freeh in the coverup of the OKC bobing by the FBI.

The FBI also had advanced warning, over six months before the Kenyan and Tanzanian bombings and did not stop the bombings. Freeh bragged to Congress in May 1995 that the FBI had set up and populated ME terrorist cells in the US. This was done with the aide of Ali Mohammed, a Ben Laden lieutenant, while Mohammed was an FBI operative and a former special forces instructor.

Today the FBI has told some here in OKC that the FBI cannot go after the ME terrorists they believe were involved in OKC bombing because to do so would compromise the FBI operations and infiltration and put the lives of their agents and informants in jeopardy (then why set up cells or infiltrate them if you will not do anything about them?).

[Mo1]

OK .. I think that is the story I remember

LOL .. I guess I need to pull a few books back of the shelf and reread them

[kcvl]

IGI's FBI alumni include Larry Potts, of Ruby Ridge fame, and former general counsel Howard Shapiro, who once sent agents to harass Filegate whistleblower Dennis Sculimbrene

[PhiKapMom]

Can you make sure that NOTHING happens to this thread? If someone starts disrupting it, they need to be booted but the thread needs to stay.

There is a lot of good information on here that we need to make sure stays until we can get time to pull it all off. I would do it tonight but I am getting tired. The dots are starting to connect!

Mega thanks! You guys are the greatest!

[PhiKapMom]

Looks my yellow pad is going to get a workout in the morning. I have thought for sometime the OKC Bombing was very suspicious especially after touring the Museum. Two and two do not add up to four in the Museum.

You should see the large picture of ms. clinton there -- she looks like the cat that swallowed the canary even more so than her husband at the Memorial Service photo. Everyone else is grieving but not those two!

[kcvl]

SAM DEALEY IN THE NEW YORK POST: Reporters, too, questioned whether the president's inner circle was passing on dirt [to Larry Flynt]. Were White House aides involved, they asked Flynt. "The only connection that I have got with Bill Clinton is that I voted for him twice. I've never met the man. I've never been to the White House." Presidential pit-bull James Carville? "Well of course I am friends with James, we made a movie together ... But I've never discussed what I am doing with James." How about Clinton dirt-digger Terry Lenzner? "No."

But asked if he knew Deputy Secretary of State Strobe Talbott, Flynt said, "I haven't seen Strobe Talbott in years. ... But he is married to a sister of a very good friend of mine." ~~ Lenzner and Shearer are also old tennis buddies from Washington's tony St. Albans Tennis Club.

Shearer's a close friend of Sidney Blumenthal's, too, according to published accounts. ~~ Last summer, the State Department learned [Shearer] was doing some free-lance negotiating with Serb and Muslim leaders on partitioning Bosnia - all while claiming he had the backing of the Clinton administration. Talbott himself had to write his brother-in-law to tell him to knock it off.