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Preventing mushroom-shaped clouds
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Sunday, July 7, 2002 | Gordon Prather

Posted on 07/07/2002 12:44:10 AM PDT by JohnHuang2

You may suppose that last September the world saw the worst-ever act of terror. Wrong! The British – with our assistance – deliberately created a firestorm over Dresden, Germany, on the eve and early morning hours of St. Valentine's Day, 1945. That was worse.

You may suppose the world first saw a mushroom-shaped cloud over Hiroshima. Wrong again. The mushroom-shaped cloud over Dresden could be seen for more than a hundred miles.

We deliberately turned the medieval city of Dresden into a blast furnace. The British bombers dropped almost a million small incendiary bomblets that night, starting hundreds of thousands of small fires. American bombers dropped thousands of tons of explosives the next day. The super-hot gases of combustion from all those fires rose, creating a columnar updraft to the upper atmosphere. The resultant low-pressure area at the columnar base caused air to be sucked in, surface winds exceeding several hundred miles per hour, feeding more oxygen to the furnace.

Why did the Brits do it? The war in Europe had already been won. Germany was in ruins. Dresden had thus far escaped bombing, but for good reason. Dresden was in no sense a military target. Hence, the sole purpose of the fire-raids on Dresden was to terrorize the millions of Germans who weren't in Dresden. Hundreds of thousands who were there – many of them refugees, wounded German soldiers and British prisoners of war – were incinerated.

A few months later, we dropped Little Boy on Hiroshima – also not a military target – in order to terrorize millions of Japanese. Because Hiroshima was largely constructed of rice-paper and bamboo, the firestorms – and casualties – caused by one nuke were comparable to what it took almost a million incendiary bombs to accomplish at Dresden.

That's what makes a nuke the terrorist's weapon of choice. With something like Little Boy, he doesn't need thousands of bombers and millions of incendiary bombs. Of course, your terrorist probably couldn't create much of a firestorm over Manhattan if he detonated Little Boy at Ground Zero. Not much of Manhattan is constructed of rice-paper and bamboo. So, your terrorist probably couldn't expect to kill as many people in Manhattan as were killed at Dresden or Hiroshima. But his mushroom-shaped cloud would certainly get the attention of folks in Connecticut and New Jersey.

Where would an Islamic terrorist get a Little Boy – an unsophisticated, easy-to-construct, highly-enriched uranium bomb? Well, not from Saddam Hussein. He doesn't have nukes. Nor – contrary to what the warhawks have implied – does he have the HEU makings. But Gen. Musharraf has dozens of HEU nukes in Pakistan – many more sophisticated than Little Boy. And what is more important, he has the HEU makings for many more.

Now, nation-states having nukes – including Pakistan – probably know whether or not any of their nukes are missing. All you have to do is count. But some nation-states having the makings for nukes may not know whether any HEU is missing.

Establishing and operating an effective cradle-to-grave fissile Materials Protection, Control and Accounting system is no slam-dunk. The MPC&A system the Russians inherited from the Soviet Union was poor. Other successor states – such as Kazakhstan – inherited practically no MPC&A system at all.

That is why the MPC&A assistance provided to nation-states of the former Soviet Union by the various Nunn-Lugar-Domenici acts has been – and continues to be – so important. The recent $20 billion Bush-Putin agreement – announced at the G-8 Summit at Calgary – properly continues to focus on cooperative U.S.-Russian cradle-to-grave MPC&A of Soviet-era fissile materials, all of it subject to the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty full-scope safeguards and physical-protection regime.

What about Pakistan? Pakistan is not an NPT signatory, and hence is not fully subject to the NPT regime. Sen. Lugar reportedly plans to introduce legislation that would authorize a U.S.-Russian effort to cooperatively assist the Pakistanis to establish an effective cradle-to-grave MPC&A system.

What about Iraq? Iraq is an NPT signatory and is fully subject to the NPT regime. As of January, the International Atomic Energy Agency could report that Saddam has never produced appreciable amounts of HEU on his own. Terrorists can't get nukes from Saddam until Saddam first gets his hands on the HEU he needs to make them. So when you hear a warhawk say we've got to invade Iraq because of reports that Saddam has provided Islamic terrorists with "weapons of mass destruction," you'll know it's most likely a crock of wheat smut.


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Sunday, July 7, 2002

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1 posted on 07/07/2002 12:44:10 AM PDT by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2
Gee Gordon, how do you know what Saddam has or doesn't have?

What a fool.
2 posted on 07/07/2002 1:08:38 AM PDT by DB
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To: JohnHuang2
An article of many gross over-exaggerations by Mr. Prather.
3 posted on 07/07/2002 1:09:31 AM PDT by First_Salute
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To: JohnHuang2
No comment on the Nagasaki bomb ? Was it not the case that even the ultra-hawkish Curtis LeMay opposed use of the Nagasaki bomb because surrender of the Japanese was a virtual certainty after the Horoshima bombing ? No comment on the NPT and the Israeli nuclear arsenal ? Is the Israeli arsenal not the largest unacknowledged, unexamined arsenal in the world, the number being something like 400, and including not only atomic but hydrogen bombs ?
4 posted on 07/07/2002 1:59:14 AM PDT by I. M. Trenchant
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To: JohnHuang2
eeeee-haw!


5 posted on 07/07/2002 2:10:35 AM PDT by ppaul
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To: I. M. Trenchant
Is the Israeli arsenal not the largest unacknowledged, unexamined arsenal in the world, the number being something like 400, and including not only atomic but hydrogen bombs ?

Are you insinuating that Israeli nuclear weapons can fall into the hands of Islamic terrorists somehow? Too much Tom Clancy in your coffee...

6 posted on 07/07/2002 2:44:37 AM PDT by eclectic
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To: eclectic
I insinuated nothing of the kind. I merely asked why there was no mention of the largest unexamined, unacknowledged arsenal on the globe in an article titled Preventing mushroom-shaped clouds.
7 posted on 07/07/2002 3:01:18 AM PDT by I. M. Trenchant
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To: JohnHuang2
"easy-to-construct, highly-enriched uranium bomb"

B.S. not that easy to construct. You can't just take a chunk of TNT and whittle it with your pocket knife to the right geometry. Setting it off is an even greater technical obstacle, with timing in the nano second range necessary to achieve critical mass. Amature attempts to make a fision bomb, would result in nothing more than a dirty bomb.

8 posted on 07/07/2002 6:17:56 AM PDT by SSN558
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To: SSN558
The Little Boy gun-type weapon is a great deal easier to build than the Fat-Man implosion device. The biggest hurdle was enriching the uranium (which is still the problem, unless you can obtain some that is already existant). As far as the design science of the device is concerned, as long as you weren't particularly interested in miniturization of optomizing yield, a reasonable competent physicist could get it to go pop.
9 posted on 07/07/2002 6:28:53 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Tijeras_Slim
As I recall, they never even tested Little Boy. Dropping it on Hiroshima was the test; that's how certain they were that it would work.
10 posted on 07/07/2002 6:33:45 AM PDT by Timesink
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To: JohnHuang2
"....we dropped Little Boy on Hiroshima – also not a military target – in order to terrorize millions of Japanese"

Wrong!
Hiroshima was the secondary target, the primary military target was too overcast.
The purpose was to cause surrender and make a land invasion unnecessary, thus avoiding the loss of over a million lives.
The Japanese started the war, it was up to us to prevail with the least loss of American life!
11 posted on 07/07/2002 7:05:15 AM PDT by G Larry
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To: Timesink
That is correct. The Little Boy device was simple in a physics sense, but difficult in a materials sense (Y-12 in Oak Ridge which was, I believe, the largest roofed structure in the world at its time, was built to enrich uranium by just one method) There were several methods used simultaneously, and it required tons of U238 to produce small quantities of U235. Coupled with this, the gun-design was inefficient, yielding (I think) about 15% of its potential. The High Energy Weapons Archive website is an excellent resource, with a minimum of bias.
12 posted on 07/07/2002 7:08:09 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: DB
how do you know what Saddam has or doesn't have?

Perhaps Prather should ask you.

Regards

J.R.

13 posted on 07/07/2002 7:14:18 AM PDT by NMC EXP
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To: Timesink
They did test the atomic bomb at Trinity Site in southern New Mexico a month before they dropped the bomb on Hiroshima. At that time, they knew little about what would happen there, Edward Teller has been quoted as saying he believed it was even possible the explosion would be so powerful it could ignite the earth's atmosphere -- they did it anyway.
14 posted on 07/07/2002 8:09:20 AM PDT by TiaS
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To: TiaS
The Trinity device was an implosion design using plutonium, which was dropped on Nagasaki. It was more "physics" intensive, so it was felt that testing was required. Teller, in his usually brilliant but somewhat scatterbrained fashion did not account for the absorption of heat by the atmosphere in his calculations, and Enrico Fermi calculated that it would not happen.
15 posted on 07/07/2002 8:16:34 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Tijeras_Slim
Are you also aware that they "missed" their original target ? The tail fins were not properly designed and the "cant" actually flew the device by a mile or so off the target. Pretty hard to miss with a nuke but in true American fashion if it can be done we did it :o)

BTW someone told me they moved or are moving the "civilian version" museam off Wyoming Drive on Kirtland AFB to down near the old town museam location in Albuquerque ??? True/false ??

Stay Safe !

16 posted on 07/07/2002 8:44:52 AM PDT by Squantos
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To: Squantos
The Fat Man was a pretty bad aerodynamic design, even though the 509th Composite practiced with dummys called "pumpkins". At the Crossroads test in 1946, Able shot was an air drop that missed by over 800 yards.

They moved the museum into the old REI building down near Rio Grande and Mountain, all the outdoor exhibits (missiles and planes) are still at the old site on KAFB. They are going to build a permanent site at Baloon Fiesta park.

Take care, Slim

17 posted on 07/07/2002 8:50:19 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: TiaS
They did test the atomic bomb at Trinity Site in southern New Mexico a month before they dropped the bomb on Hiroshima.

Yeah, but (assuming Tijeras_Slim and I are recalling properly) that was the Fat Man bomb that ended up being used on Nagasaki. They were two quite different sorts of bombs.

Well, they still are I guess. Heh.

18 posted on 07/07/2002 1:12:55 PM PDT by Timesink
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To: G Larry
Nonetheless, it is well to bear in mind that Dwight Eisenhower and Curtis LeMay, who was generally viewed as being among the most hawkish of U.S. commanders, opposed the use of the atom bomb in 1945, both believing that, in LeMay's words, a few more conventional bombings would have sufficed to "bring Japan to her kness".
19 posted on 07/07/2002 1:50:55 PM PDT by I. M. Trenchant
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To: I. M. Trenchant
Correcting a 'typo' in the last word of post #19

Nonetheless, it is well to bear in mind that Dwight Eisenhower and Curtis LeMay, who was generally viewed as being among the most hawkish of U.S. commanders, opposed the use of the atom bomb in 1945, both believing that, in LeMay's words, a few more conventional bombings would have sufficed to "bring Japan to her knees".

20 posted on 07/07/2002 1:55:45 PM PDT by I. M. Trenchant
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