English And Welsh Are Races Apart

BBC ^ | 6-30-2002

[blam]

Works for me.

[blam]

Cheddar Man

[Illbay]

Gene scientists claim to have found proof that the Welsh are the "true" Britons.

???

[Joan912]

very interesting...

[Illbay]

The researchers concluded the most likely explanation for this was a large-scale Anglo-Saxon invasion, which devastated the Celtic population of England, but did not reach Wales.

I guess I'm stupid. I thought this was the way it worked all along. I didn't realize it was a controversy.

FWIW, I think now the Welsh need to go to the ICC, and sue the English for "reparations."

Mr. Jones can say "Awroit, we'll taik London, Birmin'am, Mawnchestah and Yo'k. Yew c'n stay in the othah places if yews behave y'selves..."

[keithtoo]

I've read in many places that the descendants of the Irish and the Scots migrated from the Middle East (Anatolia/Turkey) thru Spain and wound up in the British Isles, starting in the BC era. This would seem to agree with the genetic link between the Welsh, the Scots/Irish and the Basque's of Spain.

Also, the ancient name for Spain is Iberia and the ancient name for Scotland and Ireland is Hibernia. The phonetic similarity is not by accident.

The similarities dont end there either.

The ancient Gaelic language of Scotland and Ireland seems to come from the original Gallic language of Gaul in southern Europe and Galatia, where the Gauls established colonies in Turkey as mercenaries for the Roman empire. You may recall St. Paul's book to the Galatians as a biblical reference to these people.

It's always interesting to see how these items tie together.

[another cricket]

I didn't realize it was a controversy.

That makes two of us. We must have had the same history book.

It would be interesting to check the DNA for the maternal line.

a.cricket

[Minutes]

Aren't we told there are NO differences between races, especially white and black..... now they're saying there are differences between Welsh and English..... hmmm

[Restorer]

The Celts apparently originated in Central Europe and moved both southeast, towards Galatia in Anatolia, and south and west, into Britain, Ireland, Gaul, Italy and Spain.

They later were pushed out of their original home in Central Europe by incoming Germans, apparently from Scandinavia.

There is a lot of evidence that the Celts displaced earlier groups, by either extermination or enslavement.

[LRS]

The Anglo-Saxons should be forced to abandon the occupied territories at once!

[chilepepper]

Ay Cymru.

I am not a mere Celt, I am a Pict!

[muawiyah]

As the Anglo-Saxon ethnic cleansing proceeded, a large body of Britons set sail under the leadership of four primary lords and landed in an otherwise depopulated Brittany. Another large body of Britons from Cornwall sailed due South to Galiza. This was under a different lord who became known as King San Cho Noe I. He took over Carvajal (Kingdom of McWallace) and founded Castile and Leon.

Leastwise that's been my understanding from our history as portrayed in the King Arthur stories.

Interesting that this genetic study demonstrates their truthfulness.

(NOTE: Regarding "King Arthur", that's just the masculine form of "Boudicca" or "Boadicea". Although this name is usually translated as "victorious", it is clearly a phrase made up of "bo" or "bo", "u" or "a" or "au", "dic" and "ca". "Bo" is just another Celtic honorific, as in Mc, Mac and O'. It's not used often these days. "A", "U", or "AU" is clearly a Gaelic name cognate to "Arthur". "Dic" is clearly the root Indo-European for "king" or "queen". "Ca" makes it all feminine, as in "queen".

The "King Arthur" stories might more properly be called "Annals of the Kings of Briton".)

[blam]

"I've read in many places that the descendants of the Irish and the Scots migrated from the Middle East (Anatolia/Turkey) thru Spain and wound up in the British Isles, starting in the BC era. "

Yup. Linguists have 'pinpointed' the origin of all the Indo-European languages to Anatolia, the mother tongue, so to speak.
However, the Basque language is not related in any way to the Indo-European languages. (Which still puzzles me.)

[jordan8]

BRITS OUT OF BRITAIN!

signed
Welsh Republican Army

[LRS]

"FREE WELSHISTINE"

Alright!!!!

[blam]

Were these your relatives in China 3-4,000 years ago?

Cherchen Man